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FORT COLLINS GENERAL EMPLOYEES RETIREMENT COMMITTEE
AUGUST 20,1998 MEETING MINUTES
Approved as amended, October 15, 1998
COUNCIL LIAISON: Mayor Ann Azari
COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT:
Jim Hume, 221-6776
Susan Lehman, 221-6813
Alan Krcmarik, 221-6788
Patti Teraoka, 221-6715
Kevin Westhuis, 221-6156
OTHERS PRESENT:
Russ Proctor, Watson Wyatt Worldwide, the City's actuarial firm
Jerry Wagner & Theresa Myers, ICMA Retirement Corporation
Deb Weedman & Laurie Harvey, (Staff Support — Human Resources)
Greg Tempel, (Staff Support — Legal)
Bob Eichem & Julie Depperman, (Staff Support — Investments)
Sue Wilcox, (Staff Support — Clerical)
CALL TO ORDER: Chairperson Kevin Westhuis called the meeting to order at 1:20 p.m.
ITEMS OF NOTE: Alan Krcmarik introduced Jerry Wagner and Theresa Myers of
ICMA Retirement Corporation. Jerry is the West Territory Director and Theresa is a
Senior Consulting Associate who will be working with the Committee and the City on the
transfer of funds from the GERP if the GERC and City Council approve it.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Alan distributed copies of the minutes for July 21, 1998.
The Committee will consider approving the minutes at the regular meeting on September
3.
ADDITIONS TO AGENDA/ITEMS FOR NEXT AGENDA: No changes.
DISCUSSION TOPICS:
1. GERC PLAN MEMBER(S) COMMENTS/CITIZEN PARTICIPATION:
There were no Plan member or citizen comments.
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2. DB/DC CHOICE PROCESS
MAIN POINTS: Russ Proctor reported that of the GER Plan members who voted, 55%
voted to remain in the Plan and 45% wished to withdraw from the Plan. It had been pre-
determined that the conversion could not happen if the financial status of the Plan for the
remaining Plan Members was adversely affected. Russ determined that approximately
$9 million would be transferred. The Plan would not have to increase the contribution
rate to over 4.5%. Therefore, the conversion plan can go forward at this point based on
the current Plan valuation. In general, it was the younger, shorter -service employees who
elected to withdraw. Of the 846 members, all but 78 cast ballots.
Deb Weedman had questions about whether to include election forms received after the
deadline, either via interdepartmental mail or turned in at Human Resources.
After some discussion it was decided that:
1. Ballots from terminated employees could not be accepted.
Deb will notify those hired from July 1, 1997 through December 31, 1998 that
they will have a special meeting after January 1, 1999 to determine their wishes. These
members were not eligible to receive personal information statements because of the 6-
month waiting period required before opening a 401(a) account. At a later time, Deb will
provide the necessary information on these individuals to Russ, who will prepare the
personal statements. Some individuals in this group may have received personal
statements, attended sessions and completed election forms. This will be checked, as
well as anyone who should have, but did not receive, an election form.
However, there were still questions about some employees:
• Two employees who terminated in '96 but were rehired in '98.
• Two people wanted more information (from Kevin's final reminder), but could not be
reached to provide them the information before the vote deadline.
• Ten ballots were received after Monday, August 17, 1998.
The largest group did not attend the presentations (and did not receive the personal
information) or did attend, but did not submit an election form. These individuals will
receive a phone call from a GERC member or staff support person confirming that
Human Resources did not receive an election form from them and that they will be
retained in the GER Plan. Greg Tempel will prepare a "script" that the callers can use in
order to standardize the information requested and to have a record of the answers.
Kevin will draft a message to go to all GERC members via email to tell them the results
of the election and the probable next steps in the process. Sue Wilcox will ensure that
copies of this notice are sent to the departments for posting and routing to those members
who do not have access to email.
CONCLUSION/NEXT STEPS: Russ will provide a letter verifying the results of the
election to Greg Tempel and Kevin. Once Kevin receives the confirmation letter from
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Russ Proctor, he will prepare a cover memo and send it to the City Manager and City
Council members. He will also send a copy to Alan for distribution to the Finance
Committee members, for consideration at their September meeting.
Kevin moved (Patti Teraoka seconded) to allow anyone notified that their ballot was not
accepted because it was received late, can come to the September 3, 1998 GERC meeting
at 1:15 p.m. in the Council Information Center of City Hall West to present an appeal and
any evidence pertaining to why their election form should be considered. The motion
passed unanimously. The appeals presented at the meeting should be recorded and the
Committee can decide if it wishes to have the member(s) be sworn in. The members will
be notified as soon as possible.
It was agreed that those members who did not receive the personal information but who
did see the videotaped presentation may also present their appeal and evidence at the
September 3 meeting.
3. ICMA — ROLLOVER COORDINATION
MAIN POINTS: Jerry Wagner, West Territory Director for ICMA introduced Theresa
Myers, who will be ICMA's Senior Consulting Associate to the City. If City Council
approves the provision to allow conversion, Theresa will be handling the coordination.
There was discussion of changes that may be needed to the City's contract with ICMA.
Jerry noted that rollovers can only be to 401(a) plans and not to 457 plans. If an
individual currently has only a 457 plan, a 401(a) plan will be provided automatically in
order to roll over GERP funds. The possibility exists that these individuals who opted to
stay in the 457 plan when given this option several years ago, might be given an
opportunity to move to a 401(a) at this point. A "transition team" will have to be created
to oversee administrative issues and will probably include Alan, Kevin, and Deb working
with Theresa. A list of administrative issues will be prepared and a new adoption
agreement may be necessary. Among topics to be discussed is the loan provision, since
these would be City contributions that are transferred. Jerry suggested scheduling
ICMA's certified financial planner to provide some educational seminars on the loan
provisions.
The Committee and staff reviewed the proposed wording for a resolution to go to City
Council (possibly in October) and suggested changes. Alan will prepare the Agenda Item
Summary. There was discussion about the possibility that fluctuations in the stock
market might affect this anticipated move.
It is anticipated that the 4.5% contribution outlined in the proposal would remain the
same for both the GERP and those who move to the MPP plan. If conditions determine
that the GERP contribution rate should change, then changes can be requested from City
Council for both plans.
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CONCLUSION/NEXT STEPS: Jerry advised that funds would be moved as soon after
January 1, 1999 as is practical, given that it falls on a Friday, making January 4`h the first
business day. As soon as ICMA receives the computer tape from the City, the funds will
be credited to the individual accounts, with confirmations going to City employees of the
amounts transferred.
4. ELIGIBILITY OF DISABLED VESTED MEMBERS FOR BENEFITS
MAIN POINTS: Requests have been received from deferred vested disabled members
asking for lump -sum benefits, which are not allowed under the current Plan. The policy
is that an individual receiving disability benefits from Workers Compensation, long term
disability (LTD), or Social Security should not receive retirement benefits, as this could
provide more compensation than if the individual were working, thus there would be less
incentive to return to work.
A Plan member who has been receiving disability benefits from the city's insurance
carver, has inquired as to what benefits he would be entitled to if the payments stopped.
He advised staff support that he is no longer receiving disability payments. He has been
advised that he needs to provide the GERC with a letter from the agency providing the
disability payments stating that they have been discontinued. The GERC will then
consider the matter.
Russ Proctor noted that if those individuals currently receiving disability payments were
allowed to receive their retirement benefit as a lump -sum, there would not be an adverse
affect on the plan.
It was suggested that the city's long-term disability (LTD) carrier might reduce the
amount of its payment to offset for any retirement benefits paid to disabled individuals.
Also because there is a difference between permanent and temporary disabilities, this
could undermine the LTD plan if lump -sum benefits were allowed. Laurie Harvey or
someone from Human Resources could contact Sun Life about this.
It is possible that individuals apply for and receive Social Security disability payments
after their contact with the City is severed, and the City may not be aware of this.
CONCLUSION/NEXT STEPS: This topic will be discussed at future meetings.
AGENDA AND SCHEDULE FOR NEXT MEETINGS
The next meeting will be Thursday, September 3, 1998 at 1:15 p.m. in the Council
Information Center (CIC) of City Hall West. The agenda will include:
1. Consider approving the July 21, 1998 minutes
2. 1998 Actuarial Report
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3. Election of Officers
4. Update of DB/DC Choice Process
5. Eligibility of Disabled Vested Members for Lump -sum Distributions.
6. Regular Investment Review
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 4:00 p.m.
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FUTURE MEETING SCHEDULE:
The General Employees Retirement Committee normally meets at 1:15 p.m. on the ls`
Thursday of each month in the Council Information Center, City Hall West.
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 3, 1998
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 15, 1998
THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 5, 1998
THURSDAY, DECEMBER 3, 1998
THURSDAY, JANUARY 7, 1999
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 4, 1999
THURSDAY, MARCH 4, 1999