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LANDMARK PRESERVATION COMMISSION
Regular Meeting
September 12, 2001 Minutes
Council Liaison: Eric Hamrick (225-2343)
Staff Liaison: Joe Frank (221-6376)
Commission Chairperson: Per Hogestad (416-7285)
SUMMARY OF MEETING: The LPC approved the properties at 210-218 Walnut
and 251 Linden Street for the Colorado Tax Credit Part II. The Commission also
approved changes to the new maintenance building at 1745 Hoffman Mill Road with
some alterations. The Commission members determined that staff could approve
the new signage administratively for the Starbucks Coffee Shop in the Northern
Hotel, 180 N. College Avenue. Finally, new windows will be purchased for the
Nelson Milkhouse, through a State Historical Fund Grant.
CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL: Angela Milewski called the meeting to order
at 5:37 p.m. at 281 North College Avenue. Commission members Agnes Dix,
Janet Ore, Myrne Watrous, Angela Milewski were present. Carol Tunner
represented staff. Bud Frick and Angie Aguilera were absent. Per Hogestad
arrived at 6:00 p.m.
GUESTS: Steve White, Operation Services Project Manager for 1745 Hoffman Mill
Road, Nix Farm.
AGENDA REVIEW: Two additions in Other Business: 1) Nelson Milkhouse Window
Reconstruction, and 2) Letters to SHF in support of Waterworks grant proposal.
STAFF REPORTS: Ms. Tunner advised the LPC that there would be a meeting that
evening regarding the addition of a homeless facility on the grounds of the historic
Powerplant at 450 N College. This is a neighborhood meeting at the Northside Atzlan
Center at 7 p.m.
Ms. Tunner reported that research on the Ross Farm continues in order to try to save
the Proving -up house. Ms. Tunner has spoken to the Colorado Historical Society, and
is currently trying to get an article written up about it. "Fort Fun" may be interested in
taking the old silo. Jean Allard once again has spoken to Ms. Tunner, saying that the
small house is definitely the original proving -up house.
Ms. Tunner also reported that she was surprised that a large handicapped ramp had
been added to the building at 231 S. Howes St., and this ramp had never been
approved by the LPC. The ramp has since been cut off, as with a chainsaw. Ms.
Tunner hopes that plans for a ramp that is more sensitive to the character of the
building will be brought before the LPC for input. Ms. Ore mentioned that the builder is
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on the list for Design Assistance Program (DAP). Commission members had several
questions about the program: Who is on the list and what qualifications are needed to
get on the list? Also, are there criteria specified for taking someone off the list if their
placement on it seems inappropriate?
Applications for Commission positions are now being reviewed.
COMMISSION MEMBERS' REPORTS: None.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: May 91h minutes approved without changes.
CONSENT AGENDA:
210-218 Walnut, Silver Grill and 251 Linden Street, Robertson/Haynes Block, State
Tax Credit Part II approval.
No discussion. Ms. Watrous asked for clarification that these properties are eligible for
the State Tax Credit. Ms. Tunner responded that this was the case, and these
properties appear to meet all the requirements.
Ms. Ore moved to approve the properties at 210-218 Walnut and 251 Linden Street for
the Tax Credit Part 11. Seconded by Ms. Dix and Approved 4-0. Mr. Hogestad had
arrived, but abstained because he was not present to be part of the discussion.
Mr. Hogestad took over as chair of the Commission for the remainder of the evening.
CURRENT REVIEW:
1) 1745 Hoffman Mill Road, Nix Farm - Presentation by Steve White,
Operations Service Project Manager
The project has been bid out and a contractor, Cottier Construction, has been
awarded the project. Mr. White asked the contractor about changes that might be
made to reduce costs on the project. Some changes were suggested and are being
brought before the Commission for review.
Changes to the new maintenance building on the designated site include changing
the river rock from natural river rock to "custom type" river stone, a type of synthetic
stone. Because of the fence around the building, when driving, people will not be
right next to the building. This will allow an approximately $15K savings.
Mr. Hogestad asked what brand they are considering, noting that there is a
significant difference between the different brands as to how realistic they look. Real
stone is more expensive to buy, but cheaper to install, and Mr. Hogestad believes
that the savings of artificial stone is not significant.
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Ms. Aguilera asked if the Commission may approve it in principle, but wait until
seeing the actual suggested synthetic stone proposed before making a decision.
Roofing: The contractor proposed to change the maintenance building standing
seam metal roof to a galvanized or other gray/white shade. The specific color
brought in originally was a sole -source color and turned out to be quite expensive.
The new suggested color (Galvalum), Mr. White believes, will weather down and
match the bam. The LPC believes that the galvanized look will be consistent with
the original look of the bam. It is, however, unclear as to what the original roof was
like.
They also proposed to change the maintenance building wood siding to woodgrain
or cottage grain (smooth). "Hardiplank" brand siding came under discussion, with
the smooth grain siding preferred. This type of siding takes paint well and holds up
under the Colorado weather. Cottage lap siding would be utilized. The original
plans were of lap wood siding, which requires a great deal of maintenance.
Ms. Tunner did not remember that any particular color had been decided for the
paint on the siding. Ms. Ore mentioned the irony that the Natural Resources
building is being built, and all the suggested materials are synthetic.
For the pattern of the rock, the LPC determined that the Ashler or ledge rock
patterns would be preferred. The round rocks on the base of the buildings always
appear ready to roll away, and there are very few round rocks used in historic
buildings around town, these being typically used for porches only. Mr. Hogestad
added that cast stone is usually quite realistic looking, and lasts well. Ms. Milewski
mentioned that as long as the color is not just surface, they should be all right. The
brands that have the color only on the surface often chip and become artificial
looking. Ms. Milewski added that a river rock foundation doesn't look quite right and
a sandstone cast stone design would be more compatible. The Commission also
agreed that a mortar (as opposed to a dry stack) would be preferable. Galvalum
roofing color is a much better choice than the original choice, given this particular
use.
The proposed siding has a 50-year limited warranty. Ms. Ore asked why, if you
have a woodgrain siding you want a drop or cove. This is to simulate a cove siding
affect, which has been readily observed around here. The cove siding is quite
narrow, not as big as the example brought in. The size of the siding (8 inches) is a
1940's look. All the bungalows in this area have smooth siding, not grained.
Ms. Milewski responded that it is a new building and so it doesn't have to look like
wood — the smooth siding would be preferable.
Ms. Ore asked if plans for the cupola are still going ahead. Mr. White replied that,
yes, they are. Mr. Hogestad said that all cupolas around are different, and rather a
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signature for each particular property. The one in the design plan is
uncharacteristically small for the size of the building.
Ms. Ore moved that the LPC approve the changes to the new maintenance
building at 1745 Hoffman Mill Road with the following alterations: A cast
stone rock is approved for the foundation, the Commission recommending
that it be a coursed stone look. The Commission approved of change number
two, stating that the color should be in the shade of "Galvalum", and also
approved the use of "Hardiplank" siding, further recommending that it be
smooth rather than woodgrain. The LPC must see a cut sheet of the stone and
the color of the siding before the work is done.
Motion seconded by Ms. Milewski and approved unanimously, 5-0.
2) 180 N. College Avenue, Northern Hotel — Signage for Starbucks.
Ms. Tunner presented the design for the Starbucks Coffee sign. The logo and the
awning valance advertising can be administratively approved, but on Walnut Street
signage, the designers had thought to put anchors through the Cararra glass. The
architect, Gary Dennison, said that this idea was not feasible. Now they are
proposing to bring a series of brackets down from above, suspending the sign, and
placing it in front of the storefront. The suspending tubes will be painted black to
match the glass. The letters will be green, single line face -lit 14" letters.
Mr. Hogestad thinks the new design is fine. It doesn't affect the building and is a
corporate thing.
Ms. Ore said it might be the only alternative, allowing the sign to be placed without
drilling through the glass. She also asked if, with only two support bars, it would be
stable enough to withstand the local wind conditions. Because of the weather, there
will have to be some kind of substantial steel attachment to allow the sign to
withstand the weather. She asked if there should rather be three supports.
However, if they want to drill more than two holes, they will need to come back to the
LPC. The engineers must be sure to make sure the supports will not pull out of the
wall, and will only be attached above, in the stucco.
The LPC decided that Ms. Tunner may approve this administratively, knowing that
she can bring it back to the Commission if further difficulties arise.
Other Business:
Nelson Milkhouse. There is $1,098 left in State Historical Grant, which may allow
the City to replace the windows in the Nelson Milkhouse with historic multi -light
windows. The windows, currently just sheets of plexiglass, will not be operable, but
fixed in place. The sashes will be put in place and put in Lexan. The Commission
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decided that the decisions regarding the Nelson Milkhouse could be dealt with
administratively.
Old Waterworks — A Letter of support for the Old Waterworks Project has been
requested in order to obtain a State Historical Fund grant to: 1) continue
archeological dig on the property, 2) for a structural engineer to stabilize the 4-ft
archeological pits, and 3) to make repairs to the building foundation. Mr. Hogestad
asked the Commission if they would support the writing of the letter. The
Commission replied affirmatively.
Meeting adjourned 7:00 p.m.