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LANDMARK PRESERVATION COMMISSION
Regular Meeting
January 9, 2002 Minutes
Council Liaison: Eric Hamrick (225-2343)
Staff Liaison: Joe Frank (221-6376)
Commission Chairperson: Per Hogestad (416-7285)
SUMMARY OF MEETING: The Scott Apartment Building and Associated Garage
at 900 S. College Avenue were approved for designation as a Fort Collins
Landmark. The LPC approved cobblestone masonry as presented for use on the
new building at the Nix Farm, 1745 Hoffman Mill Road, and discussed signage
guidelines and signage design at 4509 County Road 9, Preston Farm.
CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL: Commission called to order at 5:34 p.m. at 281
N. College Avenue, Ft. Collins, Colorado. Angie Aguilera, Agnes Dix, W.J. "Bud" Frick,
Per Hogestad, Janet Ore, Carole Stansfield, and Myrne Watrous were present. Karen
McWilliams, Carol Tunner, and Joe Frank represented staff.
GUESTS: Steve Levinger, owners' representative and equitable owner/contract
purchaser, 900 S. College Avenue; Steve White, construction project manager for 1745
Hoffman Mill Road; and David Lawser, owner, for 4509 County Road 9.
AGENDA REVIEW: No changes
STAFF REPORTS: Ms. Tunner introduced the new commission member, Carole
Stansfield. Ms. Tunner also reminded the Commission that during the next meeting, the
LPC will discuss officers for the next year. Conference information and articles on
historic preservation were passed around.
Ms. McWilliams announced that the plans for the development of Young's pasture will
be presented for complimentary review at the LPC at the Jan. 23, 2002 meeting. She
also announced that a consultant for the Buckingham, Alta Vista & Andersonville survey
and contexts has been selected, SWCA, with Bill Martin as the principal.
COMMISSION MEMBER REPORTS: none
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: November 14, 2001 minutes approved with no changes.
DESIGNATION:
1) Designation of 900 S. College Ave., Scott Apartments and Associated
Garage. Steve Levinger (equitable owner/contract purchaser) presenting as
the representative of the current owners who were unable to attend. Staff
finds that these apartments and their associated garage are significant for
their architecture, as a representative of Early Twentieth Century Apartment
architecture, and for their historical significance, as an apartment building
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associated with historical development of Fort Collins and CSU. Staff
recommends approving this request.
This building has been altered very little since it was built. The new owner,
Steve Levinger, plans to keep it much as it is, but may want to take off the fire
escape that was added after a fire broke out in one of the apartments.
Ms. Watrous commented that she is pleased that these buildings are coming
up for designation. Regarding the front fire escape, could the LPC designate
the building without including the fire escape? Ms. McWilliams replied that
they should designate it based upon its existing characteristics, but that the
owner can come before the LPC in the future, if he or she wants to remove
the fire escape.
Public input: none.
Ms. Ore moved that the LPC accept for designation the Scott Apartment
Building at 900 South College Avenue, with the Associated Garage. Mr.
Frick seconded the motion, which was approved unanimously, 7-0.
CURRENT REVIEW:
1) 1745 Hoffman Mill Road, Nix Farm, presented by Steve White, Project
Manager for Operation Services for Nix Farm. The applicant wishes the LPC
to reconsider the materials that will be used for the stone masonry on the new
maintenance building. In a previous meeting, the LPC approved the synthetic
stone, but recommended that they use a coursed stone look. The applicant is
returning, asking the LPC to reconsider the use of synthetic cobbled river rock
in the wainscoting of the maintenance building as well as for a trash container
and entrance columns.
The last time this came to the commission, the LPC approved the use of a
synthetic stone, but wanted to see samples. Natural color mortar would be
used along with the synthetic stone.
Public input: none.
Ms. Aguilera moved that the LPC approve the stone masonry as
presented in the sample for the new maintenance building at 1745
Hoffman Mill Road, Nix Farm and all locations as proposed. Seconded
by Ms. Dix. A friendly amendment was added by Per Hogestad that the
mortar be a natural gray mortar. Approved unanimously, 7-0.
Ms. Tunner added that, in talking to Mark Sears, Program Manager for
Natural Resources, they had discussed the placement of a temporary roof on
the smaller, older farmhouse, in order to curtail damage that was occurring
from raccoons getting into the building. When the temporary roofing was put
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on, the entryway air lock vestibule
Hogestad requested that Mr. Sears
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to the building was removed. Mr.
come before the LPC to explain the
Steve White, also asked the LPC about completely replacing the stucco on
the large Craftsman style historic house on the property because it is in bad
condition. The LPC needed more information about this. Ms. Ore asked why
this has to be done, because there needs to be a good rationale for removing
historic material. Mr. Hogestad suggested that if it is not all in bad condition,
the contractor might go to logical termination points rather than wholesale
removal of the historic siding. Ms. Tunner said that this question could better
be answered if Mr. White could return to the Commission with a detailed
assessment and pictures of the condition of the stucco on each side. The
LPC asked if it was possible to have a field trip to the site, and Ms. Tunner
said this could be done at 4:00 p.m. on the day of the LPC meeting when the
stucco issue returns to them, possibly the next meeting, January 23.
2) 4509 Country Road 9 (Ziegler Rd.) Preston Farm —presented by David
Lawser, property owner. The new uncompleted sign in front of the property
does not have LPC approval, and the design of the sign is now being brought
before the Commission. It is a steel, post sign, with a raised, lighted white
box, with 'Preston Farm printed on it. Ms. Tunner examined the sign
guidelines, which recommend illuminated signs only when just the letters of
the sign are lighted.
Mr. Lawser had talked to the Building Inspection Department about the sign,
and in doing so, had not been informed that there were any guidelines for
signage of historic properties, nor was he informed that he would have to
present his design to the LPC. The sign is currently unfinished, and he has
plans that it will have a stone base made of materials that resemble the
granary architecture and materials of the stone rear elevation on the farm
house.
Mr. Frick asked for the dimensions of the current sign. Mr. Lawser replied
that it is about 9 or 10 ft. tall and the box of the sign is 5 ft by 10 or 12 ft.
The sign will have a light inside, and Mr. Lawser is willing to backlight the
words on the sign so only the letters will show. Mr. Lawser is still looking for a
design for the sign, and was informed that the Design Assistance Program
may be able to help with this. Mr. Lawser indicated that he would like to work
with Mr. Frick on the design, if this is possible. Mr. Frick drew up a quick sign
design, as a first visual, for consideration.
Mr. Hogestad asked the Commission if they feel comfortable with the existing
sign, as an interior lit box. The owner added that the current, unfinished sign
helps to light the property, as he has had a deal of trouble with thefts on the
property and with kids breaking into the building. He would very much like to
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finish up the project and get tenants in there. Mr. Frick responded that he
understands that there is a problem with the lighting of the area around the
building; being so dark around there leads to security issues. However, the
sign should not be serving this purpose. In two weeks, Mr. Lawser can come
back before the LPC with plans for the sign. Security/landscape lighting for
the area will also have to come before the Commission.
Mr. Hogestad asked the Commission again if the lit box, as presented, is an
acceptable sign design. Mr. Ore responded that if the LPC stretches the
guidelines this time, they will have difficulty enforcing them in the future. Ms.
Tunner pointed out that the design guidelines say that lit interior signs are
permissible, as long as only the letters are visible.
Ms. Ore said that if they put rock on the bottom, keeping the existing sign, the
design is rather inconsistent. Furthermore, signs with rock on the bottom are
usually associated with a kind of lodge building, not with a Victorian house
like this one. Mr. Hogestad added that the sign is very stark now, and doesn't
fit in at all with the building. The design must be in the spirit of the guidelines.
Mr. Frank restated the issues regarding this sign that the Commission is
looking at: The Commission would like the owner to design the display part of
the box so only the letters are illuminated. Further, the LPC would like to see
the design for the base, to determine that it is compatible with the building,
and this may be done by using materials consistent with the texture of the
building (stone and wood).
Ms. Tunner brought up two other concerns regarding the building. The
handicapped ramp had been designed and built to match the balcony on
another part of the building. Unfortunately, the National Park Service made
the owner cut off all embellishments, (since this is a federal tax act project).
Secondly, large, shiny, ventilation pipes on the roof are showing. It is not
clear if anything can be done about these pipes, but it may be possible to
angle them, so they go out the roof on the back side of the building, or paint
them dark. Mr. Ray Kramer, supervisory architect on the project, will look into
this issue and tell the Commission what he thinks. Ms. Tunner will keep the
LPC apprised of the situation.
OTHER BUSINESS: None
Meeting adjourned at 6:48 p.m.
Minutes prepared by Connie Merrill, Secretary.