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Minutes: Regular Meeting of June 20, 2007
Council Liaison to the Board: Councilmember Diggs Brown
Staff Support to the Board: Jerry P. Brown, Manager of Golf at 221-6350, and Dawn
Worth, Administrative Aide at 416-2265
Call Meeting to Order: Chairperson David Johnson called the meeting to order at 7:35
p.m. at the City Park Nine Clubhouse.
Agenda Review: There were no changes to the agenda as printed.
Items of Note:
♦ Lauren DeRosa, Shane Houska and Eric McCrery called to inform us that they were
unable to make the meeting. (Deron Grothe arrived at 8:00 p.m.)
Approval of Minutes: On a motion by Larry Buckendorf, seconded by Grant Sherwood,
the Board unanimously (5:0) approved the Minutes of the May 16, 2007 Regular
Meeting.
Citizen Participation: No Citizen Participation at this time.
Discussion and Preliminary Recommendation: Consideration of Extending the
Term of the Agreement with the Collindale Restaurant Concessionaire
A copy of the current Collindale Concessionaire Agreement and the original RFP
specifications was provided to the Board prior to tonight's meeting. Jerry reminded them
that the Agreement expires December 31, 2007 so we need to decide if we want to extend
the contract or go out to bid. He informed them that we will have preliminary discussion
tonight and the Public Input/Comment Meeting will take place during our next Board
meeting on July 18`h at 7:30 p.m. at the Collindale Clubhouse. Jerry told the Board that
Scott Manning took over as the sole owner of Manno's Grille at Collindale in 2004. He
said that he has been very pleased with the way Scott has been running the restaurant and
he has exceeded our Specifications. He stated that he has received some negative
comments but for the most part the comments that he receives regarding Manno's are
positive. Jerry also mentioned that when we decided to open a real restaurant at
Collindale we estimated that the Concessionaire would make between $400,000 and
$500,000 gross annually and Scott has almost doubled that. He informed the Board that
Board Member Lauren DeRosa, Collindale Golf Professional James Greer, and the
Director of Purchasing Jim O'Neill served on the RFP Review Committee when Braun's
Bar & Grill (now Manno's) was awarded the bid.
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Scott said that he enjoys what he does and he has an understanding of what it takes to
serve the golfing community. He informed the Board that he decided to switch their meat
to an all -natural beef and they have received great comments. Scott said that the
restaurant was busy during the winter months even when there wasn't any play on the
course. Larry Buckendorf asked if the primary customers were golfers or private
functions. Scott said that the banquet room is primarily used by outside organizations.
Grant Sherwood stated that it sounds like Manno's has become a restaurant destination
and Scott said yes. Grant also asked if they have raised their menu prices and Scott said
that they have only raised them twice, one being their beef because the beef itself is more
expensive; and one partially due to the minimum wage increase. Scott said that they he is
currently in the process of creating a new menu and overall the items could be increased
up to 10%, however, some items may decrease in price. Larry asked if the design of the
clubhouse is working for them and Scott said that it works but some things could be
changed. Jerry said that Scott lost his office space because the Fire Authority changed
their rules during the construction. Jerry said that we are looking at a shade structure for
the patio.
Lary asked Jim Greer what his opinion of the restaurant is. Jim said that he is very
pleased with Scott and his staff and the way they run the restaurant. He also noted that it
is very important that the entire golf staff get along and that is the case at Collindale. Jim
said that it's great to have people in there during the winter months. He also feels that the
restaurant has brought in more golfers. Jerry asked Jim O'Neill if he felt Scott had met or
exceeded their expectations. Jim said that they wanted to make sure the restaurant is
meeting the needs of the golfers and it appears that Scott is doing that. Assistant Golf
Professional Pat Finnegan said that he enjoys the atmosphere and the food. He stated that
it's great to see people golfing and then hanging out in the clubhouse. Scott said that it
has really become a good place for family gatherings. Larry asked if there were any
contractual modifications that they should discuss. Manno's currently pays us 10% of
gross. Jerry said that he has done some research and most golf courses in the area get 7%
to 10% of what the restaurant brings in and most of those restaurants provide up to
$50,000. Larry asked if Jerry felt we needed to increase that and Jerry believes that it
isn't necessary. Jerry commented that the next time we go out to bid we may consider
also charging the restaurant a contribution for the cost of utilities and/or for equipment
maintenance or replacement. David Johnson said that he played in a tournament and there
were a lot of the wives that came to meet their husbands for dinner afterwards. Grant
asked if Scott had a high turnover of staff. Scott said that they don't have much turnover
in the kitchen and the majority of turnover they have is related to being in a college town.
He mentioned that he did lose someone in the kitchen due to the fact that he doesn't
provide medical benefits for his staff. Scott said that it was hard going from a corporation
to sole proprietary and trying to provide benefits. He stated that he would like to be able
to provide his staff with benefits. Jay Kammerzell asked if the Concessionaires could
piggy -back onto the City's benefits. Jerry said that they cannot as they are independent
contractual vendors.
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Grant asked if they have had any violations and Scott explained that when he first took
over he was contacted by one of the college sororities about holding an over-under
benefit. Scott said that he told them that he didn't feel comfortable holding an event with
alcohol when there would be underage individuals attending. He explained that one of the
underage girls drank before attending the event and ended up getting hurt in the bathroom
and her friends called 911 without our knowledge. Scott said that even though they didn't
serve her any alcohol they got a violation for having an underage individual who had
been drinking in our establishment. Scott also informed the Board that they have received
good Health Department inspections.
Discussion: Junior Hi¢h School Golf Coaches Fees
Jerry wanted to clarify that the Coloradoan published in a column that said we would be
discussing High School and Junior High School Golf Fees, and we are only discussing
the Junior High School Coaches Golf Fees. He explained that we have a policy in place
but it hasn't been consistently followed. It says that the coaches will pay a full fee if they
are playing for recreational purposes and not coaching. Jerry said that the coaches
receive a stipend to use the entire year. He said that this is a Poudre School District
program that we support. Jerry said that he allowed the coaches to play at the lower fee
for the remainder of this year since we weren't accurately implementing the policy. Staff
was concerned that the kids weren't benefiting. There was an issue where one kid was
left out so coaches could play, as well as more than one coach being out at the same time
with one team. Larry Buckendof asked if we are discussing the fees that the coaches pay
recreationally or when they are with the kids and Jerry said that we need to discuss what
the coaches are going to pay when playing recreationally. Junior High School Coach Eric
Walz explained that the timing was the main issue for him because he had already
relayed the lower fee information to the coaches and it ended up being incorrect. Eric also
said that it was inappropriate for multiple coaches to be playing at the same time and he
would like to have their names in order to address this issue. Jerry asked if the Board felt
that we should provide a discount to the coaches? Dan Preble said that we should keep in
mind that the coaches don't get paid much so it's difficult for them to pay for it
themselves. Larry asked what the Golf Professionals thought about it. David McCleave
stated that it's his opinion that it's difficult to play and coach at the same time and he
feels that the primary focus needs to be on the kids.
Mike Musgrave from Link-N-Greens Golf Course is a Junior High Coach and he stated
that it's important for all of the kids to be allowed to play and that he walks with his
group. Larry feels that if those times are designated for the kids then they should be the
ones playing. Dan suggested that Eric and the Golf Professionals get together to come up
with an agreement. He said that when he coached being able to play was a benefit. Jerry
informed the Board that one of the coaches had purchased an Annual Pass and was upset
that we didn't accept it at SouthRidge after 2:30 p.m. Jay Kammerzell asked if we could
give them a discounted punch card and Jerry said that's one potential option that Dale
Smigelsky suggested. Grant Sherwood asked if this was an after school program and Eric
said yes and explained that it's not part of the athletics program. Larry feels that issuing
them a discounted 9-hole10-play Punch Card annually would be a good idea. Jerry agreed
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and said that it should be used at another time. Jerry then recommended that as a gesture
of good will and as a thank you to the coaches, the Golf Division will sell one discounted
9-Hole 10-Play Punch Card annually to the Head Coach of each Junior High School
Team at 50% off the posted rate. On a motion by Larry Buckendorf, seconded by Deron
Grothe, the Board unanimously voted (6:0) to approve Jerry's suggestion. Jerry will
revise the existing policy and have the Board review it later in the year.
Other Business
♦ Jerry previously gave the Board a copy of the 2007 Lease/Purchase items. He stated
that 2007 has been the most we've purchased in quite a while due to the budget.
♦ Jerry informed the Board that the Mail Creek (New Mercer) Ditch is leaking at
SouthRidge and the maintenance staff is working to mitigate the leaking.
Correspondence/Financial and Statistical Reports
Jerry said that the May numbers looked pretty good and he feels the June numbers should
be below average. He stated that there aren't many individuals who care to play with the
weather being so hot.
Adjournment:
On a motion by Dan Preble, seconded by Larry Buckendorf, the Board unanimously
voted (6:0) to adjourn at 9:15 p.m.
MeetineAttendance
Board Members
Larry Buckendorf
Deron Grothe
David Johnson
Jay Kammerzell
Dan Preble
Grant Sherwood
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Dawn Worth
Administrative Aide
Staff
Jerry P. Brown
Jim Greer
Scott Manning
David McCleave
Jim O'Neill
J.R. Schnelzer
Dawn Worth
Guests
Pat Finnegan
Ken Lamboume
Mike Musgrave
Eric Walz