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GENERAL EMPLOYEES' RETIREMENT COMMITTEE
DECEMBER 13, 2001, MEETING MINUTES
Approved on January 10, 2002
COUNCIL LIAISON: Mayor Ray Martinez
COMMITTEE Susan Lehman, 221-6813 Michele Hays -Johnson, 416-2158
MEMBERS Bill Switzer, 221-6713 Alan Krcmarik, 221-6788
PRESENT:
ABSENT: Terry Van Cleave, 221-6321 Dottie Nazarenus, 204-4429
OTHERS Julie Depperman (Finance) Greg Tempel (City Attorney's Office)
PRESENT: Debbie Weedman (Human Resources) Vincent Pascale(Human Resources)
CALL TO ORDER: Chair Susan Lehman called the meeting to order at 1:57 p.m. Four
members of the Committee were present constituting a quorum.
PLAN MEMBER COMMENTS: No comments at this meeting.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Alan Krcmarik handed out the minutes for the November 1
meeting. Bill Switzer moved approval of the minutes and Michele Hays -Johnson seconded the
motion. The Committee approved the minutes unanimously (4-0).
DISCUSSION TOPICS
1. RETIREMENT PHILOSOPHY
The Committee Members present did not have any items to discuss on this topic.
2. CHANGING THE METHOD OF BENEFIT CALCULATION
Susan received an e-mail message from Dottie Nazarenus. She provided a copy of the
message to everyone present at the meeting. In the message, Dottie expressed her concerns
about the planned change to the method of calculating the benefit of Plan Members. She
suggested that the actuary should provide more information about the expected cost of the
changes. She also suggested that different scenarios be developed for discussion with the
Committee and eventually the Council.
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Susan stated that the change is intended to bring more equity to the calculation of the benefits.
The actuary indicated that the costs would be minimal. Staff is to complete the analysis of all
Member's data and report back to the Committee. Bill stated that he did not think this is an
enhancement of the Plan benefits, any additional costs would likely be very small, if any.
Staff will respond to Dottie regarding her concerns. The Committee will not complete this
change until the results of the data are available. If the results contain a surprise about the
costs or any other factors are not acceptable, then the Committee can reconsider the direction it
is heading. Enhancements to the Plan and contributions rates are determined finally by the
Council. The actuarial reports suggest that we are in the 4.5% range and will be in the same
range, regardless of the change in how benefits are calculated.
3. MONTHLY INVESTMENT UPDATE
Julie Depperman provided a summary of the Plan portfolio through November of 2001. At the
end of November the total value of the assets was $31.2 million. The fixed income portion of the
portfolio had a yield of 5.98% for the year. Within the mutual fund portion, the domestic mutual
funds were down 10.8% and the international funds were down 23.3%. The weighted return for
the year through November was-5.83%. The market has substantially recovered the losses
experienced right after the September 11 terrorist attacks. The national economy is officially in
a recession. The economists indicate the recession began in March 2001.
4. OTHER BUSINESS
Actuary's Response to Performance Issues: At the November meeting, the Committee and the
Actuary discussed performance expectations. Nancy Wagner had provided a written response
to the issues that the Committee had identified. When there have been disagreements about
the billings, Nancy has reduced the bill. She did feel, however, that the service contract was
somewhat ambiguous. After some discussion, the Committee felt that its interpretation was
correct. The Committee believes that Nancy needs a more knowledgeable (about public
pensions) back-up person to attend meetings in her absence.
Susan asked if the Committee was ready to redo the request for proposal process and select a
new actuary or continue with Milliman. Alan thought that we should not change the actuarial
service provider at this time. The Committee and staff have been through the first year of the
contract and there are many transition issues. He suggested that we should continue with
Milliman for the second year and monitor the performance. Staff will also continue to monitor
the billings. They have been accurate in the recent months. Staff will also review the contract to
make sure that any rate increases conform to the contract.
Handouts: Alan handed out two documents from the City Clerk's office regarding board and
commission responsibilities. The first, Meeting Responsibilities, provides the guidelines that
apply to the Committee. The second handout summarized Ordinance No, 131, 2001, which
describes how the Committee may conduct executive sessions.
Duplicate Payments: Alan informed the Committee that the Finance Department had made
duplicate single sum payments to three former Members of the Plan. Staff has recovered the
extra payments from two of the former Members and is working on the remaining one.
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Meeting location: The Committee decided that it will continue to meet at the City Hall Council
Information Center. This location has been the official meeting place for several years and the
Committee found that it was the most convenient for the Members to attend.
Adjournment: The Committee adjourned at 3:15 p.m.
SCHEDULE FOR NEXT REGULAR MEETING
The next regular meeting of the Committee will be on January 10, 2002, at 1:30 p.m. in the
Council Information Center of City Hall. The tentative agenda includes:
Welcome to New Committee Member
Plan Member Comments
Approval of the prior meeting minutes
Retirement Philosophy
Status Report on the Change in Calculating Retirement Benefits
Annual Report
Annual Investment Update
Other Business
GENERAL EMPLOYEES' RETIREMENT PLAN WEB PAGE: The web page is under
construction.
Future Meeting Schedule:
The regular meeting time for the Committee is at 1:15 p.m. on the first Thursday of each month.
The regular location is the Council Information Center at City Hall. For 2002, the Committee has
scheduled the meetings as shown below:
January 10 April 4
February 7 May 2
March 7 June 6
July 11 October 3
August 1 November 7
September 5 December 5
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