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LIQUOR LICENSING AUTHORITY
December 18, 1974
Regular Meeting
7:30 P.M.
Present: Elton Collins
Donald Robotham
Carlos Seegmiller
Absent: Rudy Baldivia
James MacNair
Staff members present: Bean and Lewis
Also Assistant City Attorney Ramsey Myatt
Minutes of November 20, 1974 Regular
Meeting, approved
Authority member Collins made a motion to approve the minutes of
the November 20, 1974 regular meeting as published, seconded by Carlos
Seegmiller. The Chairman put the motion which was unanimously adopted.
Boundaries Established for Joe Berry dba
Charley 0's, for a Hotel -Restaurant Liquor
License with Extended Hours, south of East
Foothills Parkway on South College Avenue
Chairman Robotham stated the agenda would be amended to allow the
preliminary hearing on the above captioned application.
Attorney Garth Rogers, representing the applicant was present.
City Clerk, Verna Lewis stated the administration had a report and
recommendation on a boundary for this area:
The Administration recommends a boundary of north from the subject
premises to Drake Road; south from the subject premises to the City
Limits; east from the subject premises to Lemay Avenue; and west
from the subject premises to Shields Street.
There are four hotel -restaurant licensed premises in the above
recommended boundaries, being: (1) Casa Godinez, 215 Foothills
Parkway; (2) Tico's of Fort Collins, Lot 1, Drake Park, which has
not opened yet; (3) the Moot House, 2626 South College Avenue;
and (4) Horsetooth Lanes Tack Room, 217 West Horsetooth Road.
There is one retail liquor store in said boundaries: South College
Liquors, 2724 South College Avenue.
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The established liquor outlets within a one mile radius of the
proposed location are:(1) the above listed establishments; and
(2) the Prime Minister and Ponderosa Liquors, both outside the
City limits.
Attorney Rogers stated he would reserve comment on the recommended
boundaries til next month; he did not consider Tico's as an available
outlet because it is not in business and not available.
No interested parties in attendance to make comment on the boundaries.
Chairman Robotham next inquired of Attorney Rogers if the boundaries recom-
mended by the administration were acceptable to Mr. Rogers and his client.
Mr. Rogers responded "yes".
Authority member Seegmiller made a motion, seconded by Elton Collins
to accept the recommendation of the administration for a boundary north from
the premises to Drake Road, south from the premises to the City Limits, east
from the premises to Lemay Avenue, and west from the premises to Shields
Street. The Chairman put the motion which was unanimously adopted.
The Chairman stated the final hearing will be January 15, 1975.
Retail Liquor Store::License Application submitted
by Harold Chavez dba H $ M Liquors, 315 Riverside
Drive, aooroved
Chairman Robotham read the rules of procedure at length after inquiring
whether those scheduled for hearings were present or represented by Counsel,
and ascertaining that there were Protestants to the application of Foothills
Discount Liquors.
City Clerk, Verna Lewis, next read the Resolution and Findings on
the Preliminary hearing for H & M Liquors.
Authority member Collins made a motion, seconded by Carlos Seegmiller
to adopt the resolution setting forth the findings of the preliminary hearing
on the retail liquor store license application submitted by Harold Chavez
dba H & M Liquors, 315 Riverside Drive. The Chairman put the motion which
was adopted unanimously.
RESOLUTION
OF THE LIQUOR LICENSING AUTHORITY OF FORT
COLLINS SETTING FORTH FINDINGS ON A PRELIMIN—
ARY HEARING ON A LIQUOR LICENSE APPLICATION
WHEREAS, heretofore, Harold L. Chavez,_ doing business
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as H & M Liquors, made application to the Liquor Licensing
Authority for a retail liquor store license; and
WHEREAS, the Liquor Licensing Authority has received
reports concerning such applications, and has held a prelim-
inary hearing on such application as provided in Rule 3 of
the Rules of Procedure of the Liquor Licensing Authority.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE LIQUOR LICENSING
AUTHORITY OF THE CITY OF FORT COLLINS, that the Authority
hereby makes the following preliminary findings and determin-
ations concerning this application, subject to the right of
any party in interest to present further evidence concerning
any of such findings and determinations at the hearing to be
held on this application on the 18th day of December, 1974:
1. That the subject premises are proper premises under
the ordinances of the City of Fort Collins and the laws of
the State of Colorado to be licensed for the sale of liquor
as applied for by the applicant.
2. That the boundaries of the neighborhood to be
served by this applicant are as follows: City limits of the
City of Fort Collins, Colorado.
3. That the necessary notice of hearing by publication
and by posting of the premises has not been given as provided
by law, and the Authority has directed the City Clerk to
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4. That the applicant is qualified under the ordinances
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of the City and the laws of the State for the license applied
for.
5. That the application is in proper form and will be
heard by the authority on December 18, 1974.
Passed and adopted at a regular meeting of the Liquor
Licensing Authority held this 18th day of December, 19,74.
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ATTEST:
Cilfy Clerk
City Attorney Myatt stipulated for the record, that the notice has
been published, the premises posted and that the file is complete and in
proper form.
Attorney Shelley Don, 1025 Capitol Life Center, Denver, Colorado,
appearing for the applicant called Mr. Harold Chavez, 227 North Grant,
Fort Collins, on his own behalf; Mr. Chavez was sworn by the Court
Recorder and gave testimony to the conduct of the proposed retail liquor
store and the financial arrangements for remodeling of the building.
Applicants submitted Exhibit "A" which were plans for remodeling
and Exhibit "B" petitions containing approximately 350 signatures in
support of the application.
City Attorney Myatt inquired into the circulators of the petitions
and was advised they had been personally circulated by Mr. Chavez who
had ascertained that the signers had personally signed in his presence
and were 21 years of age. City Attorney Myatt inquired of Mr. Chavez if
a license of the same type had not been issued for the same location;
Mr. Chavez stipulated that the license was granted pending remodeling
and was never issued and the time period in which the license was to
have been activated had lapsed.
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Chairman Kobotham inquired if there were opponents to the application,
Attorney William Dressel stated he had represented opponents at the
previous hearing; he was duly sworn by the Court recorder prior to gTo-
ceeding and gave further testimony to his opposition to the traffic flow
past the proposed location.
The Chairman advised the Authority that they may make a decision at
this timeor defer the matter for 3o days.
Authority member Collins made a motion, seconded by Carlos Seegmiller
to grant the license for a retail liquor store to Harold'M. Chavez dba
H $ M Liquors, 315 Riverside Avenue, The Chairman put the motion which was
unanimously adopted.
City Attorney, Ramsey Myatt advised that written findings will be
issued granting the license at the next meeting. The license will be
approved but not issued until the remodeling is complete.
Application for a Retail Liquor Store
License for Foothills Discount Liquor Store,
South Mason Street at Monroe Drive, taken
under Advisement
City Clerk, Verna Lewis, read the resolution and findings of the
preliminary hearing at length.
Authority member Seegmiller made a motion, seconded by Elton Collins
to adopt the resolution setting forth the findings of the preliminary
hearing regarding an application for a retail liquor store license for
Foothills Discount Liquor Store, South Mason Street at Monroe Drive.
The Chairman put the motion which was adopted unanimously.
RESOLUTION
OF THE LIQUOR LICENSING AUTHORITY OF FORT
COLLINS SETTING FORTH FINDINGS ON A PRELIMIN-
ARY HEARING ON A LIQUOR LICENSE APPLICATION
WHEREAS, heretofore, Foothills Discount Liquors, Inc.,
doing business as Foothills Discount Liquors, made applica-
tion to the Liquor Licensing Authority for a retail liquor
store license; and
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WHEREAS, the Liquor Licensing Authority has received
reports concerning such applications, and has held a prelim-
inary hearing on such application as provided in Rule 3 of
the Rules of Procedure of the Liquor Licensing Authority.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE LIQUOR LICENSING
AUTHORITY OF THE CITY OF FORT COLLINS, that the Authority
hereby makes the following preliminary findings and determin-
ations concerning this application, subject to the right of
any party in interest to present further evidence concerning
any of such findings and determinations at the hearing to be
held on this application on the 18th day of December, 1974:
1. That the subject premises are proper premises under
the ordinances of the City of Fort Collins and the laws of
the State of Colorado to be licensed for the sale of liquor
as applied for by the applicant.
2. That the boundaries of the neighborhood to be
served by this applicant are as follows: North from the
subject premises to Stuart Street; South from the subject
premises to the city limits; east from the subject premises
one and one-half miles; and West from the subject premises
one and one-half miles.
3. That the necessary notice of hearing by publication
and by posting of the premises has not been given as provided
by law, and the Authority has directed the City Clerk to
accomplish said notice prior to the hearing date.
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4. That the applicant is qualified under the ordinances
of the City and the laws of the state for the license applied
for.
5. That the application is in proper form and will be
heard by the authority on December 18, 1974.
Passed and adopted at a regular meeting of the Liquor
Licensing Authority held this 18th day of December, 1974.
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ATTEST:
City Clerk
Attorney David Wood, representing the applicants called as his first
witness for the applicants Jerry Merlin Nix, 2025 North College Avenue, who.
was duly sworn by the Court Recorder.
Mr. Nix gave testimony to his background, the financial ability to
construct the proposed building, an4,Otgin the inventory. to start the
business.
Mr. Nix furthex gave testimony to j1) appp licant' exhibit 'IV" the
Planned UnitDevelop�peat, lli&iiY o atire 8 4, lslte �lan• '(2) applicant's'
exhibit "U" proposed floor plan and arc hitects'rendering of the elevation
of the building; (3) applicand., ems' it,' " architects rendering, picturing
facility; (4) applicanRrs eihibitl"Ot' i►b�g a*' aW;i'aj.*'tptos of the site
with photographs of what the proposed interior will -,look like. Attorney Wood
offered the above exhibits "v", "U",` "S", and "D" into evidence of this
time.
Applicants exhibit 'IQ" being an aerial photo taken of the approximate
neighborhood area by M $ 1'Engineering in 1969, with overlays for develop-
ment in 1969 and development to 1974 and applicants ,exhibit "R" another
aerial photo taken in June, 1974 were next testified to by Mr. Nix. Ap-
plicant's exhibit "T" being a certificate from Hugh Weed, Jr,, Executive
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Director of Department of Revenue was presented, being a certificate of
license for South College Liquors, a liquor store in the neighborhood.
Applicant's exhibit "P" being a population growth study was then presented.
City Attorney Myatt stated the above exhibits "Q", "R" and "P" would
be admitted as evidence.
Lastly Mr. Nix gave testimony to his willingness to comply with Federal,
State and City regulations in the conduct of this business if the license
is approved, and responded to direct questions by Authority members.
Attorney William Dressel representing the owner of South College
Liquors as well as others who do serve the neighborhood,, r.c due to the
requirements that he represent a party in interest he was representing
Mr. Anderson.
Chairman Robotham requested Attorney Dressel enumerate those others
he represents. They are as follows:
I. Jerry Anderson, South College Liquors
2. Fred Bachman, Ponderosa Liquors
3. W. Ferrell, Campus West Liquors
4. Darrell Blake, Johnny's Liquors
S. Rod Lamb, South Taft Hill Liquors
City Attorney Myatt stated for the record, of all the people enumerated
only the South College Liquors is a party in interest as defined by State
Statutes; Attorney Dressel concurred.
Attorney Dressel proceeded to cross examine Mr. Nix regarding the lease
agreement with the people who are going to purchase the property (Nordick
Construction Company) and the financing available to the applicants.
Attorney Wood voiced objections to the line of questioning. City
Attorney Myatt stated the Authority is interested in the financing within
limits. It was determined that proposed capitalization for the outlet is
between $SS,000 and $75,000.
Chairman Robotham declared a 10 minute recess; upon reconvening the
hearing, Attorney Wood called Mr. Thomas Crawford Hayes, 308 East Swallow
Road, Fort Collins, one of the principals of the application who was duly
sworn by the Court Recorder.
Mr. Hayes testified to his background, his role in the management of
the proposed retail liquor store, his financial resources and the coordination
of the circulators of petitions in support of this application.
Applicant's exhibits "A" thru "N" inclusive were presented being
petitions containing 1,396 signatures.
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The next witness called by Attorney Wood and sworn by the Court
Recorder was Mr. Scott Condreay, 300 Ruth, Fort Collins who gave testimony
regarding the long term lease that would enable the construction of the
building for the proposed retail outlet. Attorney Wood stated this concluded
the presentation on behalf of the applicants, and made a blanket offer of
applicants exhibits "A" through "V".
Attorney William Dressel called Mr, Jerry L, Anderson, 1308 Constitution,
Fort Collins, Owner of South College Liquors to the stand. Mr. Anderson was
duly sworn by the Court Recorder and gave testimony to petitions circulated
in the neighborhood in opposition to the application before the Authority.
Protestant's exhibit "2" was presented containing 444 signatures in
opposition. Protestant's exhibit "4" was a petition circulated amongst the
businesses in the neighborhood. Exhibit "3" is a petition presented by the
Protestants obtained from customers of South College Liquors, Ponderosa
Liquors, Johnny's Liquors and Campus West Liquors. Protestant's exhibit "1"
being a map of the neighborhood was presented.
City Attorney Myatt requested that Mr. Anderson clarify that the petitions
in opposition were obtained outside the boundary by other store owners.
Attorney Wood examined Protestant's exhibit "3" and made inquiries of
Mr. Anderson regarding the location of the petitions and where the signatures
were obtained.
Attorney Dressel next called Mr. Fred H. Bachman, doing business at
3836 South College, residing at 315 Park who was sworn by the Court Recorder
and gave testimony to his business operation. City Attorney Myatt stated
he did not believe Mr. Bachman's testimony would be admissable before the
Authority because he is not a person in interest. Attorney Wood stated
he would not object; the applicants would take the position that the
testimony would be to weight rather than admissability.
Wellington Ferrell Jr, 1716 Clearview Court, was sworn by the Court
Recorder. Mr. Ferrell was called by Attorney Dressel and is the owner of
Campus West Liquors.
City Attorney Myatt inquired if Mr. Ferrell had a personal residence
in the neighborhood under consideration. Mr. Ferrell stated that he was
not a resident and his business wasl outside the area in question.
Attorney Woodstated he had an objection to this witness as he does
not have his place of business or residence in the neighborhood.
City Attorney Myatt stated his ruling was that witnesses testimony
will not be admissable because heisnot a party in interest; these are
matters which can be taken under consideration by the Authority if they
wish to hear testimony over his ruling the Authority may take a separate
vote.
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Attorney Wood stated he would be willing to stipulate on behalf of the
applicant, that there are people in the neighborhoodKbD buy liquor in the
Campus West Liquor Store, further that he is a licensee and has a store
there, much as he would stipulate that people from the neighborhood buy
at Harry Hoffman's in Denver and to that extent they serve the neighborhood.
Authority member Seegmiller made a. motiom,secorided by Elton Collins to
sustain the City Attorney's ruling and not hear the testimony of Mr. Ferrell.
The Chairman put the motion which was unanimously adopted.
Attorney Dressel next stated that he would like to call Mr. Rod Lamb
to give testimony; City Attorney Myatt ruled again that this testimony not
be heard. Attorney Dressel stated he also wished to have Mr. Blake from
Johnny's Liquors to testify.
Authority member Seegmiller made a motion, seconded by Elton Collins
that the Authority sustain the ruling of the City Attorney and that the
testimony of Mr. Blake of Johnny's Liquors regarding his location and
petitions circulated in his Store not be heard. The Chairman put the motion
which was unanimously adopted.
Authority member Collins made a motion seconded by Carlos Seegmiller
that the testimony of Mr. Lamb not be heard. The Chairman put the motion
which was unanimously adopted.
Attorney Dressel then called Mr. Blake to give testimony for purposes
other than those objected to.
The Authority recessed at 11:15 p.m. to allow the Court Recorder to
obtain additional recording tape. Upon reconvening, City Attorney Myatt
stated that during the recess he had conferred with the two attorneys the
fact that the testimony of the witnesses that Mr. Dressel purposes would
relate to the outlets in or near the boundaries as defined by the Authority
and would relate only to the existence of such outlet and the fact that they
do serve, to a degree, the needs of the neighborhood, and Mr. Dressel can
call the witnesses for that limited purpose with the thought in mind that
the Authority would weigh the testimony of these witnesses accordingly
because the Supreme Court has said testimony from competitors is weighed
differently from testimony from non -competitors.
Attorney Dressel stated Mr. Ferrell and Mr. Lamb had departed, Mr.
Blake was still in attendance and was sworn by the Court Recorder.
Jerald W. Blake, owner of Johnny's Liquors gave testimony to his
location and the canvassing of the neighborhood under consideration and
the petitions opposing the application.
The attorneys for the applicants and the opposition made their closing
comments.
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Chairman Robotham stated the Authority could make a determination on
this matter this evening or take the matter under advisement.
Authority member Seegmiller made a motion seconded by Elton Collins
to take this matter under advisement and render a decision in 30 days.
The Chairman put the motion which was unanimously adopted.
Application to Transfer Ownership of the
Country Store, 830 South College Avenue from
Lloyd Bickel to Richard Fitzgerald tabled
City Attorney Myatt stated the application for transfer is
complete except that the lease is between Richard Fitzgerald and his wife
and.the,I Gartons. The application is in the name of Country Store, Inc.
and there has to be continuity; he had talked to Mr. Fitzgerald and
the assignment has been approved by the Gartons, but it had not been
received by the City as yet and will be received by the City.
The only thing to be considered by the Authority in the application
for a transfer are the qualifications of the applicant. Mr. Fitzgerald
will be in the City after the first of the year, therefore Mr. Myatt
suggested that this item be tabled.
Authority member Collins made a motion, seconded by Carlos Seegmiller
to table any action on the transfer of+ownership application submitted by
Richard Fitzgerald for the Country Store at 830 South College Avenue to
the regular meeting of the Liquor Licensing Authority scheduled for January 15,
1975. The Chairman put the motion which was unanimously adopted.
Renewal application for a Hotel -Restaurant
Liquor License with Extended Hours for
Jesse and Gillermo Godinez dba Casa Godinez,
Site 15, Ft. Collins Foothills Fashion Mall,
approved
City Clerk, Verna Lewis stated this license had been issued in
November. This is now a routine renewal and the police department report
states in part, "can find no legal basis to recommend denial of this
renewal application at the present time."
Authority member Seegmiller made a motion, seconded by Elton Collins
to approve the renewal application for Casa Godinez, Site 15, Ft. Collins
Foothills Fashion Mall for a hotel -restaurant liquor license with extended
hours. The Chairman put the motion which was unanimously adopted.
Renewal application for a 3.2% Fermented Malt Beverage
License application by 7-Eleven Store, 216 West
Prospect Street, approved
City Clerk, Verna Lewis stated this was a routine renewal and that the
Police Department report states in part, "found no violations for the above
named establishment in the past year. . .can find no legal basis to recom-
mend denial of this renewa=l application at the present time,��
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Authority member Collins made a motion seconded by Carlos Seegmiller
to approve the renewal application for a 3.2% Fermented Malt Beverage
License for 7-Eleven Store, 216 West Prospect Street. The Chairman put the
motion which was unanimously adopted.
Renewal application for a 3.2% Fermented Malt
Beverage License application by 7-Eleven Store,
1001 Lemay Avenue, approved
City Clerk, Verna Lewis stated this was a routine renewal and that the
Police Department report states in part, "found no violations for the above
named establishment in the past year. . .can find no legal basis to recom-
mend denial of this renewal application at the present time."
Authority member Collins made a motion seconded by Carlos Seegmiller
to approve the renewal application for a 3.2% Fermented Malt Beverage
License for 7-Eleven Store, 1001 Lemay Avenue. The Chairman put the motion
which was unanimously adopted.
Other Business
1. City Clerk Verna Lewis provided a draft of the annual report listing
the number of applications for licenses acted upon, the number of licenses
granted and the number denied and other action taken by the Authority during
the past year.
The Authority determined that they will review the draft and be
prepared to adopt a report at the January 15, 1975 regular meeting.
2. Mr. Frank Pino and Mr. Rueben Ramirez owners of F $ R Limited formerly
Golden Ram appeared before the Authority regarding the following letter of
reprimand.
November 26, 1974
Messrs. Frank N. Pino and
Ruben R. Ramirez
F F, R, Ltd.
214 Linden Street
Fort Collins, Colorado 80521
Gentlemen:
The application for renewal of vo,ir hotel - restaurant and extended
hours liquor license came before the Fort Collins Liquor Licensing Authority
for review of November 20, 1974. At such time the Authority reviewed two
reports involving incidents arising at your establishment during the past
year. After reviewing these reports the Authority received recommendations
from the Police Department which stated inter alia that further incidents
of the type listed on the reports would be cause for hearing to revoke or
suspend your license. The Authority requested our office bring these matters
to your attention because of the serious nature of the possible consequences
of the reoccurrence of such conduct upon your premises.
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V ry truly yours,
Ramsey D. b a t U
Assistant C Attorney
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cc: City Clerk
Mr. Pino stated the Licensees had attempted to cooperate with the
Police Department, had installed an alarm system and for the record wanted
it known they were attempting to cooperate with the Police Department in
these matters.
Chairman Robotham stated the prupose of the letter was to caution the
Licensee that the Authority is aware that incidences happen and that it is
up to the owners to operate their establishments in accordance with the
rules and regulations.
City Attorney Myatt stated other establishments had received such
letters, because the incidences subject the owners to revocation or
suspension of the license.
No further action taken on this item.
Adjournment
Authority member Collins made a motion, seconded by Carlos Seegmill6r
to adjourn. The Chairman put the motion which was adopted unanimously.
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ATTEST::
Secretary