HomeMy WebLinkAboutTransportation Board - Minutes - 01/17/2007MEETING MINUTES of the
TRANSPORTATION BOARD
January 17, 2007
5:45 p.m.
City of Fort Collins Municipal Building
215 N. Mason Street — Community Room
FOR REFERENCE:
CHAIR:
Vacant
VICE CHAIR:
Gary Thomas 482-7125
STAFF LIAISON:
Mark Jackson 416-2029
ADMIN SUPPORT:
Cynthia Langren 224-6058
BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT:
James Clausen
Sara Frazier
Neil Grigg
Jeannette Hallock-Solomon
Bill Jenkins
Rick Price
Ed Robert
Garry Steen
Gary Thomas
Kevin Westhuis
CITY STAFF:
Kathleen Bracke
Nicole Hahn
Mike Herzig
Mark Jackson
David Kemp
Cynthia Langren
Larry Schneider
Brian Woodruff
ABSENT:
Don Edmondson
OTHERS IN ATTENDANCE:
Judy Dorsey
Tim Johnson
Nat Burnett
Ryan Pooler
1. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Vice Chair Thomas at 5:58 p.m.
2. WELCOME NEW BOARD MEMBERS
Introductions were made and processes explained to the new members, Garry Steen and
Bill Jenkins.
3. AGENDA REVIEW
Kathleen Bracke will give a brief explanation of the application process for CMAQ
projects. This will be the first discussion item, placed before the snow storm report.
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4. PUBLIC COMMENT
Tim Johnson: Darin Atteberry put together a group before Christmas and New Year's to
talk a little about the reorganization of the city and I was invited to participate. The
major elements that I could see as it pertains to Transportation are that we will be
enveloped by a larger planning department. The concern that I had and some others as
well, is that prior to Transportation being organized in the mid-90's, all the elements
were scattered all over and I didn't like that. That isn't likely to happen with this
reorganization. The key thing for us, in a planning environment, I'd like to see the
Transportation Board always looking at Transportation as it serves the city, not as it
serves new development. I don't mean to put down new development, but I think we
want to be looking at the whole city's needs all the time. This group will have to be
vigilant in looking at that.
With regard to the Rural Transportation Authority (RTA), this is something new in the
state. In Denver, we have an RTD, a Rural Transportation District, which elects its own
members and collects its own taxes. An RTA is supposed to serve the rest of the state.
We have one other one right now in Colorado Springs and some of you have heard the
presentations. It's a way to look at regional transportation under the guidance of the
Metropolitan Planning Organization, which is most of Larimer and Weld counties.
The way it would work in the area, the legislative authority, is a way to find money for
transportation for the whole region by way of a sales tax, a vehicle registration, and also
a road tax if you will for people staying in hotels. The focus for raising money for this
organization so far is probably on the sales tax. You have before you a report that was
done by the RTA principles committee, which was a group of folks that they selected
from Larimer and Weld counties and also from the different cities that were involved.
They tried to get representation between environmental community groups and business
folks as well. From Fort Collins it was David May from the Chamber, myself and Gordon
Thibedeau from United Way who were representing different areas of Fort Collins. There
was similar representation from the other entities as well. We tried to come together to
look at large principles that would be served by an RTA. The first seven or eight were
arrived at rather quickly and received unanimous support. The remainder was
significantly difficult for us. We met during the months of October, November and the
beginning of December to arrive at these. You can read these on your own at your
leisure.
Other items that we arrived at that were difficult as we go forward I think it will cause
difficulty in the region because we are diverse in our needs in these two counties and
how we raise money. What Greeley wants and needs and the way they do things even
compared to Weld County, current practices for raising money with regard to things like
impact fees are very different from what we do here.
Johnson agreed to come back to the board periodically to give updates.
S. APPROVAL OF MINUTES (November 2006)
There was a motion and a second to approve the November 1006
Transportation Board meeting minutes as presented, Garry Steen noted that
his last name was misspelled on the first page. With thatrevision, the motion
carried by a unanimous vote, l0 - o.
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6. COUNCIL LIAISON REPORT
None.
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ACTION ITEMS
a. REVISIONS TO THE LARIMER COUNTY URBAN AREA STREET STANDARDS — M. Herzig
Mike Herzig stated that in 2001, City Council adopted the Larimer County Urban
Area Street Standards. This was after 3-4 years of work involving Loveland,
Larimer County and the City of Fort Collins to develop common technical
standards, one document, to be used by all three agencies. The first revisions to
these Standards were adopted in October 2002. Staff is now proposing the
second set of revisions.
There is a list of proposed changes in Exhibit B that was included with the
Agenda Item Summary. Much of the changes are fixing typos or adding clarity,
not really a lot of substance to them. The only proposed change that creates a
potential cost increase for developers is in Chapter 22, Section 22.4.2A 1&2,
where the strength requirement for concrete sidewalks and curb and gutter is
proposed to increase from 3500 psi concrete to 4000 psi concrete to help
eliminate a spauling problem. The contractors have actually asked for this
standard, but staff wanted to make sure the developers support it as well. Staff
has heard no objections from the developers because they talk to their
contractors and staff believes they're convinced because the developers have
had some pretty expensive items to repair in the past.
The City of Loveland has gone ahead and endorsed these revisions even though
they didn't have the same amount of problems with concrete as we did up here.
The public process included several informal meetings that were held with the
affected interests in developing the revisions. There were also two open houses
to allow for review of the final versions of the revisions. Several consulting
engineers attended to review the changes and make comments.
Board Discussion:
Price: We have a lot of cyclists who both commute and ride recreationally in and
out of the city. When the county redid north Overland Trail and made nice wide
bike lanes/shoulders, there were some real serious problems when you came out
of the city and into the county. All those gravel roads made for lots of drag out
onto the shoulders so the bikes flying down those beautiful bike lanes had to
swerve out into traffic or go right through the gravel. My question is 1) do the
Standards address these kinds of issues for bicyclists or do the Standards
address any sweeping or maintenance issues? I guess this is a question as much
for DK as anybody because this is the type of question that he should be able to
answer if anyone asks him.
Herzig. The answer is no on the maintenance standards. We don't have
maintenance criteria; these are design and construction standards. We do have
a rural detail showing some detail back into properties so you don't get sloughing
of the gravel that far into the street. I know that on our capital projects, such as
South Taft Hill, we paved some of those gravel driveways because we didn't
want gravel getting thrown up on the sidewalks.
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Price. How do address that? How do we complain and to whom?
Herzig. Since its in the county, you'd have to call Mark Peterson in Larimer
County Engineering and see whether they'd do anything about that. Our
standards apply to the Urban Growth boundary, and then the County has its own
rural road standards.
Robert. City Plan changed the streetscape so that there will not be a roll curb
sidewalk, there will always be a separator. Has that impacted the standards of
how you build curbs? Before they were tied together so they were stronger, but
now it's two separate things.
Herzig. We have a standard for curb and gutter that stands alone from the
sidewalk standard. We do allow on residential streets that they do a drive over
curb with no sidewalk and they can separate that. They have to dedicate an
extra foot of right-of-way on each side in order to have an 18-inch curb instead
of a 6-inch curb. That is a standard that is allowed, they have an option of doing
a vertical curb or a drive over curb, but they have to dedicate more ROW for it.
The sidewalk is still detached from the curb.
Robert. Roundabouts. I read in here and it doesn't have all the details, but it
appears that we're using the same roundabout standards that were established
by Loveland.
Herzig. Loveland has had the most experience with the design and construction
of roundabouts. I should add that there is a new appendix being added in here
thats labeled as "I" which is Roundabout Design Criteria and our Traffic
Engineer, Eric Bracke, has decided from what he reads in that, that he wants to
be a part of that too. So we're taking Loveland off of that and it will be for Fort
Collins too.
Robert. Good! He has some pretty good designs and I would not want to be
held to some of the Loveland designs.
Thomas There are several pages in here that without reading the entire
document, we don't know what we're voting on. We're sort of taking it by faith
that all the changes in here are administrative, typographical, housekeeping and
that the only real hand grenade, if you will, is this increase in the concrete. Is
there anything else in here that as it goes through the review that someone is
going to raise the flag and say that you've really changed the world on us.
Herzig. We don't expect anything. We've had the public involved throughout, in
fact many of the changes came from the users and thats the consultants who
use these standards to design by. They find our mistakes. We've also had two
open houses and invited the public, the development community and consultants
and they've come to those open houses. The books were set out and they sat
down and read through the whole thing. Keep in mind that this is a living
document and that there are ongoing changes.
Hallock-Solomon: You took this to Planning and Zoning Board, right? What was
their response?
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Herzig. A lot less than yours tonight. I will also be going before the Affordable
Housing Board next month.
Grigg made a motion to endorse these revisions to the Street
Standards. There was a second by Hailock-Solomon. The motion
carried by a majority vote, 9-1.
Thomas asked Price if he'd like to state why he is opposed, not that he has to.
Price: I'm opposed because of lack of clear direction and time to consider it.
This seems like a rubber stamp. If I'd had 30 more days to ask questions; the
bicycle issue is a good example. You may not want to insert any bicycle
standards in this round, but that would be a nice step forward. This is a
complicated document, very detailed with lots of changes, none of which are
very substantive for this group to address, yet it sounds to me like a rubber
stamp. If someone on Council gets upset about one of these things and says,
"What does the Transportation Board say about this?" it would be zip, because
we really didn't have time to consider it in depth. Hence, I wonder how valuable
this particular action is from this group. If our rubber stamp is really that
important, then we should have seen this 30 days ago.
Grigg. We are only endorsing the revisions, not the whole entire document.
Thomas Fair note. You did raise a point, and I want to thank Mark for doing
this. We are now getting a one -page summary, the Agenda Item Summary, that
at least gives us a heads up going into these what we're going to be asked to do
and what the issues on it would be. Did everyone find this of any value? (Many
members responded affirmatively.)
Robert. This is basically what we're rubber stamping right here (referring to the
AIS).
Herzig: Just a reminder that all of these are available on the Internet and
they're all in there with the red lines and strikeouts.
Thomas thanked Herzig for coming and for taking the time to know what's in the
document. Herzig said that if you "Google" street standards, these standards are
the number one item. Calls come in from all over the country.
Price stated that that deserves a "congratulations"!
8. DISCUSSION ITEMS
a. CMAQ PROPOSED LIST — K. Bracke
Bracke stated that staff is gearing up for the next cycle of Congestion Mitigation and
Air Quality funding that is administered through the North Front Range MPO. This
cycle is for 2008-09. The MPO has added a new step to the process and their overall
turnaround time for the applications is short. The extra step is that staff now has to
get endorsements from our City leadership first. It's still not clear what exactly is
expected, whether it's a letter of endorsement or what. Bracke said that she wanted
to make sure that she is prepared and the board is aware of what projects are being
submitted, she put a list of projects together, which was then distributed to the
board: "Proposed Project List — City of Fort Collins Transportation Services." She
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explained that this is a compilation of ideas and proposals from several different
departments within Transportation Services. The purpose of tonight is just to share
this list with the Board.
If anyone has input or further questions, call Kathleen.
b. SNOW STORM REPORT — L. Schneider
Jackson introduced Streets Superintendent Larry Schneider to the Board. He added
that these storms were very unusual for Fort Collins and stressed how amazingly
dedicated Larry and his crews were/are. Many departments pulled together and
there were many sacrifices made. There are some drivers who still have not had a
weekend off since the snow started. They gave up their Christmas with their families
and New Year's as well. Some worked 12-hour shifts and doubled those at times if
needed; amazing dedication. Jackson expressed his appreciation and stated he's
very proud to be associated with such hard working dedicated employees.
Schneider stated that in his 26 years as Streets Superintendent, this has been the
biggest task that he's faced. This was different from previous historical storms
because of the sub -zero temperatures that hung around.
Schneider presented information on the December 2006 snow storms via PowerPoint.
Highlights included:
• Storm #1: December 20, 2006
- Total Accumulation: 23.5"
- Snow Emergency was declared
- Historical snow even, record total snowfall in 24-hour
period
- Cost: $740,000
• Storm #2: December 28, 2006
Total Accumulation: 10"
Cost: $135,000
• Snow removal was completed twice in the downtown area
• Crews tackled 20,934 lane miles
• 244 blocks of alleys were cleared
• City labor hours — 11,000+ hours (Crews worked 24/7 for the past 4
weeks, through the Christmas and New Years holidays)
• Calls received by staff: 4,000+ calls
• Snow removal efforts continue from sidewalks, school areas, bike
lanes, residential requests, drainage issues, asphalt potholes
• Many City departments lent a hand and Streets is very appreciative
of their help
The Board thanked Schneider for coming. Thomas voiced his thanks to Streets on
behalf of SAINT because their volunteers were out Tuesday after Christmas, in their
private cars, and thanks to the crews, they were out there doing their jobs on back
streets and everything. It was a remarkable accomplishment. Thank you.
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c. 2007 BIKE EVENTS — D. Kemp
Kemp presented a Power Point that included the following highlights for the 2007
Fort Collins Bikes Events, Programs and Campaigns:
• Roll into Spring (March 17tl' — May 17ti')
• List of various events that start with the St. Patrick's Day parade on
March 17 and ends with Adaptive Cycling, 4:30 — 5:30 p.m. May 3 —
17.
• PrimarvGoal: To attract and support new bicyclists
• Bike Week Events (June 25"' — 30a')
Primary Goal: To offer fun, entertaining and creative events that
emulate our rich local bicycle culture
Back to School Events (Fall 2007 — Spring 2008)
PrimaryGoal: To encourage and provide support for school age
children to bike and walk to school while working to create safe
routes to school and better school environments
• Bike Winter Fort Collins (November - ?)
PrimaryGoal: To support and encourage bicyclists to use biking
as a method of transportation through the winter months
OTHER 2007 INFORMATION
• Bicycle Friendly Community:
Spring campaign drive
Apply for "gold" level LAB status & install 10 bicycle friendly
community signs
Create marketing and advertisements that reflect BFC
• Be Seen!
Encourage cyclists through marketing and peer influence
techniques to ride at night with front and rear lights
Spring and Fall campaign drives
Working with City of Fort Collins Police Services
Working with CSU campus police
• Ride Responsibly!
Encourage cyclists through marketing and peer influence
techniques to ride responsibly in Fort Collins
Summer campaign drive
Primary Goal: To reduce scofflaws while maintaining
a Bicycle Friendly Community atmosphere
in Port Collins
WEBSITE CORE
• FC Bikes e-newsletter:
"Momentum" Keeping FC bicyclists informed with bike news
E-newsletter matches other city department newsletter -multiple
sign up location
Advertisements and marketing promote e-newsletter
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• Accident and Close Call Reporting:
Citizens are able to report close calls and accidents through
website
Track problem areas
Closures and Detours:
Webpage offers information on all current bike trail/bike lane
closures and offers detailed detour routes
• Bicycle Registry:
Self help web -based bicycle registry allows citizens to register
their bicycles with Police Services
Primary Goal: To equip bicyclists with necessaryinfrastructure support
and disseminate information
The board thanked Kemp for his outstanding work and enthusiasm
d. MOBILITY MANAGEMENT REPORT — B. Woodruff & J. Dorsey
The topic is how to best reduce the growth rate of vehicle miles traveled (VMT) in
Fort Collins, also known as "Transportation Demand Management". This is an
important goal of City Plan. The goal stated in City Plan says that our combined
efforts to reduce VMT growth should be in the top rank compared to other
comparable cities. The Natural Resources department wholeheartedly agrees with
this policy, primarily because VMT is the biggest source we have of air pollution in
Fort Collins. ThaYs what led us to initiate this project to study best practices. Staff
could not complete this project without a lot of help from colleagues in
Transportation Planning, SmartTrips and Transfort and we acknowledge their hard
work and support. The consultants included Judy Dorsey of The Brendle Group who
is here tonight and Todd Litman of the Victoria Transport Polity Institute. Staff
asked the consultants to look at the best practices of comparable cities in order to
point the direction for the City's programs to be the best that they can be.
Dorsey discussed the report which was completed in August 2006. The report
highlights future demographic and economic trends that will drive City progress,
evaluates City mobility management efforts relative to best management practices
from leading US cities, discusses potential management options and strategies
available to the City and recommends several types of programs that can help Fort
Collins achieve its transport planning objectives and provide other economic, social
and environmental benefits.
The report also identifies needs associated with improving overall best practices in
Fort Collins. In particular, it is paramount for the City to secure reliable long-term
funding for alternative transportation infrastructure, services, and promotion
programs in order to achieve its transportation improvement goals.
Woodruff stated that the Natural Resources department role basically ends with the
release of this report. The information in the report is available for use by various
City departments to use as a guide for further work. Staff hopes that perhaps one of
the best uses for the report is in the next round of the Budgeting for Outcomes
(BFO) process. The report can be used to design offers that can effectively compete
for the limited city dollars and the principle here is that mobility management can
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reduce the government's expenditures on transportation. These ideas in the report
should be competitive in the budget process if they're packaged as mobility
management strategies. They also have the ability to reduce consumer
expenditures.
Woodruff added that this was an intense report that's 111 pages. Staff encourages
the board to look into the full report as there is a lot of valuable information.
Board Discussion:
Grigg. How does the board move forward with something like mobility management?
How can we integrate this?
Jackson: This is absolutely a tool that can be used in the upcoming budget cycle and
even more importantly since we are undergoing a major reorganization, this type of
systems level thinking really opens up a lot of opportunities given the proposed
organizational structure. We already do some collaboration in Transportation and
Community Planning and Environmental services, but now there will be ways to
strengthen and build upon that.
Price: Will the Transportation Board be getting a primer on BFO? Last time it
happened, I was on the outside looking in. This time I would like to be on the inside
pushing up. What role will this board play? I think there are certain issues this
board ought to take a proactive role in especially in BFO.
Jackson: I would love to involve this board if they are interested. I'm happy to bring
you along as we go through the process.
Price I'd like to know BEFORE you go through the process, because once you get
into the process, it's almost too late for public comment and participation.
Jackson: I will see what I can do.
Thomas I remember when they did the first BFO, they said there were constrained
by time and would do it with City employees, but next round, they said they would
include the citizens.
Price Please pass along to management, on behalf of the board, that would like to
know sooner rather than later and would like to be part of the process.
Jackson: Yes. I will pass that along and we're definitely going to need your help.
Thomas Would it be unfair for us to ask you to give us a report next month on
what citizen involvement is planned with the understanding that we reserve the right
to write to our bosses, the City Council, and request a change?
Jackson: Will do.
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9. REPORTS
a. BOARD MEMBER REPORTS
Westhuis Employee Survev. Is the City Manager's Office going to release to
the Coloradoan the survey that they've been begging for? Have you heard
anything? Jackson: The City Manager's Office has refused to deliver those
documents to the Coloradoan based on what we believe is to protect the
anonymity and confidentiality of the employees. Until a judge tells us differently,
we won't do it. We feel its very important to maintain that trust with the
employees.
Frazier. UniverCity. The last one was very good. Kevin, Gary, Ed and I were
there. We started out with a tour at 3 p.m. and went around the city and the
university to see what's going on. Then we came back and had reports from
Downtown, Beet Street, Northern Colorado Clean Energy, Transportation
Planning department projects, Poudre River project, cycling park, velodrome
project, and CSU projects. I have information on all of those so if you're
interested I'm happy to share it with you.
Our homework for our next meeting on February 1, we're supposed to come with
ideas of our own after we've heard all this input from all the various groups. I
have come up with what I call a legacy parkway for the Poudre River walk and
the Mason Street Corridor when they converge, which will be close to LaPorte
Avenue. This is what I will be passing out at our next meeting (distributed a
handout), which is February 1.
Price: UniverCi . I'm on the writing committee and managed to catch the
transportation writing responsibility as well as the UniverCity Integration
Education responsibility. With the group's permission, I will send a copy of what
I've written.
Robert: EVSAG. I'm no longer a member of EVSAG because there is none. It
closed its doors last month.
Jenkins VMT. I do have a comment on the report on the VMT since everything
is focused around dollars, is there some way this board can come up with some
kind of deal to say that we reduced VMT by "x" percent and put "y" dollars back
into the economy or something to that effect because that would get a lot of
attention I would think. Thomas It sounded like they alluded to that in the
report. Jenkins I think we could emphasize that. Just struck me as something
we could do.
Thomas Letter of Thanks. Ed and I talked about this earlier. We gave the
Streets guys our appreciation tonight and I understand that City Council did
something for them last night; do we need to do anything more formal to
recognize what they've done? Jackson. I don't think that it ever hurts. People
never get tired of hearing that they're pretty and given the magnificent effort
that they've put forth, I think if the Board felt that was an appropriate thing to
do, it would be very well received and it could be shared with City Council and
certainly shared with Larry and his crew.
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There was a motion by Robert to have Thomas drafta letter of
appreciation to the Streets crews which he will send to the board for
review and comment first There was a second by Grigg. The motion
carried unanimously.
b. STAFF REPORTS
Jackson: Reorganization. It is morphing almost daily and is very interesting to
go through. In the end I think it's going to be a good thing. If you want to talk
more about it, I can report next month or you can contact me individually if
you'd like.
New Transfort Fixed Route on Harmon. Route 16 is up and running very
successfully. We're getting kudo after kudo after kudo from people who have
been waiting for that route on Harmony for years. In March, we will be adding
two new routes; one on Timberline and one on Prospect.
NEXT AGENDA:
- Transfort/DAR Report
- Downtown River District Update
Future Presentations/Field Trips:
- Velodrome (Jackson will work with Kemp to get this set up)
- De-icing Facility
- Traffic Operations Center
- Transfort
- UniverCity — Mason Corridor
- Downtown River
- Re: RTA, have a joint meeting with Loveland and Greeley Transportation
Boards, perhaps at the Ranch to talk about mutual interests and how we see
things developing
10. OTHER BUSINESS
None.
11. ADJOURN
The meeting adjourned at 9:38 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Li )zL 0e,-A �
Cynthia L. Langren
Executive Administrative Assistant