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LIQUOR LICENSING AUTHORITY
Regular Meeting - October 12, 1983
7:30 P.M.
A regular meeting of the Liquor Licensing Authority was held on Wednesday,
October 12, 1983, in the Council Chambers of the City of Fort Collins
Municipal Building. Roll call was answered by the following members:
Acott, Bujack, Long, Monaghan, Sheahan, Veazie and Wilson.
Staff Members Present: Debbie Caster, City Clerk's Office
Ken Frazier, City Attorney's Office
Frank Russell, Police Department
Minutes of the Regular Meeting of September 14, 1983,
Approved as Published
Authority member Long made a motion, seconded by Authority member Veazie,
to approve the minutes of the regular meeting of September 14, 1983, as
published.
The Chairperson put the motion with the following votes: Yeas: Acott,
Long, Monaghan, Sheahan, Veazie and Wilson. Nays: None. Abstain: Bujack.
Renewal Application for
Saddle -Up Liquors, 1015 South Taft Hill Road
Authority member Long made a motion, seconded by Authority member Bujack,
to approve the renewal for Saddle -Up Liquors, 1015 South Taft Hill Road.
The Chairperson put the motion with the following votes: Yeas: Acott,
Bujack, Long, Monaghan, Sheahan, Veazie and Wilson. Nays: None.
Renewal Application for
Sports Page, 181 North College Avenue
Authority member Long made a motion, seconded by Authority member Bujack,
to approve the renewal for Sports Page, 181 North College Avenue.
The Chairperson put the motion with the following votes: Yeas: Acott,
Bujack, Long, Monaghan, Sheahan, Veazie and Wilson. Nays: None.
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Renewal Application for
Quinn's, 3620 South Mason
Authority member Long made a motion, seconded by Authority member Bujack,
to approve the renewal for Quinn's, 3620 South Mason.
The Chairperson put the motion with the following votes: Yeas: Acott,
Bujack, Long, Monaghan, Sheahan, Veazie and Wilson. Nays: None.
Extended Hours
Sports Page, 181 North College Avenue
Ms. Mellisa Corr, owner, stated that she would like to have additional
hours on Sunday evenings. She explained that the Sports Page sponsors
several sports teams and that practices are often held on Sunday evenings.
If they had extended hours, Ms. Corr stated they could be open for this
business.
Authority member Acott made a motion, seconded by Authority member Monag-
han, to approve the extended hours for Sports Page, 181 North College
Avenue. Yeas: Acott, Bujack, Long, Monaghan, Sheahan, Veazie and Wilson.
Nays: None.
Change in Trade Name for
Nate's Steak and Seafood Place,
(formerly Quinn's) 3620 South Mason
Mr. Douglas DeMercurio, owner, introduced his son, Nate. He explained that
a market survey he conducted indicated people perceive Quinn's as a formal,
expensive restaurant. He stated they wanted to change the name to appear
less formal and that they wanted to name the restaurant after their son,
Nate. Mr. DeMercurio stated no other changes, other than cosmetic, will
occur.
Authority member Monaghan made a motion, seconded by Authority member
Veazie, to approve the change in trade name from Quinn's to Nate's Steak
and Seafood Place, 3620 South Mason. Yeas: Acott, Bujack, Long, Monaghan,
Sheahan, Veazie and Wilson. Nays: None.
Registration of Manager
Old Chicago. 147 South Colleqe Avenue
Mr. Larry Hennessy, general manager, was sworn and stated he has had 5
years experience with the Old Chicago Concept Restaurant Corporation. He
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stated he has worked his way up from kitchen manager to general manager.
Mr. Hennessy stated he is familiar with the Colorado Liquor laws. He spoke
of the employee training procedures he follows as part of the training
program at Old Chicago. He noted that he and his assistant managers are
responsible for training employees.
Authority member Monaghan made a motion, seconded by Authority member
Bujack, to approve the registration of manager for Larry Hennessy at Old
Chicago, 147 South College Avenue. Yeas: Acott, Bujack, Long, Monaghan,
Sheahan, Veazie and Wilson. Nays: None.
Final Hearing for a
Beer and Wine License for
Chef Wang's Chinese Restaurant, 3640 South Mason, Unit 12
The Resolution outlining the results of the preliminary hearing was read by
title only.
Authority member Long made a motion, seconded by Authority member Bujack,
to adopt the Resolution as presented. Yeas: Acott, Bujack, Long, Monaghan,
Sheahan, Veazie nad Wilson.
Mr. Paul Salas, attorney representing the applicant, called his first
witness.
Mr. Max Scott, owner of Oedipus, Inc., 2902 5th Street, Boulder, Colorado,
was sworn and stated his company conducted the petitioning for this li-
cense. He explained how the survey was conducted. Applicant's Exhibit 1
was submitted and identified as a summary report of the petitioning re-
sults. Applicant's Exhibit 2 was submitted and identified as three packets
of petitions. Based on needs and desires, Mr. Scott stated his survey
indicates that 90% of the neighborhood is in favor of the license. Over-
all, he stated the survey was very favorable.
Mr. Paul Salas submitted Applicant's Exhibit 3 which was identified as a
menu. Applicant's Exhibit 4 was submitted and identified as a floor
plan.
Mr. Chung -Ye Wang, aka Paul Wang, was sworn and spoke of his background.
He explained that he is originally from Taiwan. Upon his arrival in the
United States, he stated he began cooking. He spoke of establishments
where he has worked in the past and of a beer and wine license he held in
the State of California. Mr. Wang explained he has opened a Chinese
restaurant and is applying for a beer and wine license. He stated he will
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employ his wife, three sons and one cocktail waitress. Mr. Wang stated he
will be the supervisor and will be responsible for training all employees
on the liquor laws. It was noted that there are only two other beer and
wine licenses within the defined neighborhood area. Mr. Wang told the
Authority that drinks will be served by the waitress from a waitress
station. He stated that his seating capacity is approximately 64.
Authority member Monaghan made a motion, seconded by Authority member
Bujack, to approve the beer and wine license for Chung -Ye Wang, aka Paul
Wang, dba Chef Wang's Chinese Restaurant, 3640 South Mason, Unit 12.
Yeas: Acott, Bujack, Long, Monaghan, Sheahan, Veazie and Wilson. Nays:
None.
Final Resolution on a
Beer and Wine License for
Chef Wang's Chinese Restaurant, 3640 South Mason, Unit 12
The Resolution was read by title only.
Authority member Long made a motion, seconded by Authority member Bujack,
to adopt the Resolution as presented. Yeas: Acott, Bujack, Long, Monaghan,
Sheahan, Veazie and Wilson. Nays: None.
Final Hearing for a
Tavern License for
Sagebrush Bar and Restaurant, 934 Lemay Avenue
(Secretary's Note: Authority member Bujack abstained from voting on this
item.)
Mr. Doug Konkel, attorney representing the applicant, stated that during
the hearing conducted on September 14, testimony was given indicating that
no other Taverns exist within the defined neighborhood. In addition, he
stated approximately 80% of the neighborhood signed petitions in favor of
the license. On the basis of the evidence previously presented, Mr. Konkel
requested that the Authority consider making their decision at this time.
The Authority requested that the opposition be given an opportunity to
speak.
Mr. Konkel stated he would allow the opposition to make their presentation
first.
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Ms. Karen Hancock, 1416 Emigh, was sworn and spoke in opposition to the
license. Ms. Hancock submitted Opponent's Exhibit A which was identified
as petitions circulated in opposition to the Tavern license. She stated
there are a total of 675 signatures. Ms. Hancock stated she does not want
a Tavern to locate within the neighborhood. She pointed out that there are
schools in the neighborhood and that this establishment will create addi-
tional traffic hazards.
Mr. Konkel cross-examined Ms. Hancock. During cross examination, Ms.
Hancock stated she signed the petition in opposition because she objects to
a Tavern license. She explained how she presented the petitions when she
circulated them. Ms. Hancock testified that she would oppose any Tavern
license in the neighborhood.
Mr. Konkel objected to the petitions, marked as Opponent's Exhibit A, being
admitted into evidence on the basis that signatures contained in the
petitions are from people who do not reside in the neighborhood area.
Assistant City Attorney Ken Frazier stated the petitions submitted as
Opponent's Exhibit A contain some streets which fall outside the neighbor-
hood boundary. He stated the Authority should give the petition whatever
weight they deem appropriate.
Mr. Lee Effner, 1417 Emigh, was sworn and inquired of how many people in
support of the license also own their homes within the defined neighborhood
area. At the Authority's request, no count was taken.
Ms. Sylvia Hites, 904 Garfield, was sworn and stated she signed the peti-
tion in opposition to the license. Ms. Hites spoke of the schools which
are located in the neighborhood area. She went on to say that in order to
keep the neighborhood residential, she opposes any business use within the
neighborhood, especially a Tavern establishment.
Mr. Joe Trlica, 1405 Welch, was sworn and stated there is a traffic hazard
when exiting from the parking lot onto Lemay Avenue. He stated it is very
difficult to see when pulling out of the parking lot.
Mr. Reed Mitchell, 809 East Elizabeth, was sworn and stated he would not be
opposed to a Hotel -Restaurant license but that he is opposed to a Tavern
license. In response to a question from Mr. Konkel, Mr. Mitchell testified
that he would object to any Tavern license in the neighborhood.
Ms. Margaret Mitchell, 809 East Elizabeth, was sworn, and stated she would
like to have her name removed from the applicant's original petition,
submitted on September 14, 1983.
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Mr. Konkel acknowledged Mrs. Mitchell's request and stated that the total
number of signatures submitted in favor of the license would be reduced to
609.
Mr. John Carlsen, owner and partner of the business, was sworn. Mr.
Carlsen stated the hours of operation will be from 7 a.m. to 2 a.m. At 8
p.m., he stated music and dancing will begin. Applicant's Exhibit 4 was
submitted and identified as a menu for The Sagebrush. Mr. Carlsen spoke of
the entrances into the restaurant and told the Authority of the remodeling
they have done. Mr. Carlsen stated the total seating capacity is 178,
which includes patio seating. Applicant's Exhibit 5 was submitted and
identified as several receipts and documentation of work which has been
done at the restaurant. Applicant's Exhibit 6 was also submitted and
identified as additional signatures obtained in favor of the license.
Approximately 74 signatures were submitted. Mr. Carlsen stated 250 invi-
tations for an open house were sent out among the neighborhood and 6 people
attended. He explained the purpose of the open house was to discuss the
operation of the Sagebrush. Mr. Carlsen pointed out that he and his
partner had no prior knowledge that the premises were once licensed as The
Sagebrush. Mr. Carlsen went on to say that some people have been concerned
with disturbances. He stated in checking the files of past establishments,
no history was found in the way of fights, disturbances, violations, etc.
Mr. Carlsen stated he is considering hiring a guardian security to be on
the premises after 8 p.m. In closing, Mr. Carlsen addressed traffic
hazards. He pointed out that their business is zoned as an appropriate use
in the neighborhood.
Mr. Max Scott, owner of Oedipus, Inc., 2902 5th Street, Boulder, Colorado,
was sworn and explained the type of service his firm provides. Mr. Scott
explained the survey and its results. Applicant's Exhibit 3 was submitted
and identified as the survey. He stated he conducted his survey over the
telephone due to the fact that the applicant had already circulated peti-
tions within the neighborhood. Mr. Scott gave the breakdown of the phone
survey. He stated 74% of the people contacted were in favor of the li-
cense. In response to a question by Mr. Konkel, Mr. Scott stated that he
feels the neighborhood is not adequately being served by a Tavern license.
In closing, Mr. Scott stated that the statistical information obtained is
very good.
Mr. Doug Konkel requested that the City stipulate to the fact that no other
Tavern licenses exist within the neighborhood area. Mr. Konkel submitted
an article from The Coloradoan which was marked as Applicant's Exhibit 7.
Assistant City Attorney Ken Frazier acknowledged and stipulated to the fact
that there are no other Tavern establishments within the defined neighbor-
hood area. He added that Applicant's Exhibit 7 was admissible.
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Mr. Michael Gorgan, 2432 Queens Court, was sworn and stated he is the
Vice -President of the Fort Collins Gay and Lesbian Alliance. He stated the
article in The Coloradoan was submitted by the Gay and Lesbian Alliance.
A written statement y r. Gorgan was submitted and marked as Friend of the
Authority's Exhibit 1. Mr. Gorgan stated the organization is in support of
the Tavern license.
Mr. Harold Wallace, 1817 Lemay Avenue, was sworn. Mr. Wallace stated that
he is not gay, opposes the use of alcohol, opposes traffic on Lemay Avenue,
and opposes license holders and patrons of establishments who are of low
character. Mr. Wallace spoke of his concern with schools in the neighbor-
hood. Mr. Wallace informed the Authority that there have been rumors that
the Sagebrush will be a gay bar. He stated that he spent an hour at The
Sagebrush on a Saturday evening to observe. He reported that he observed
no behavior or activity which the opposition should be fearful of. Mr.
Wallace stated that he feels many of the people speaking in opposition to
the license have covered up their real reasons for opposing. Mr. Wallace
stated he feels the gay community in Fort Collins has achieved a positive
image. He added that an establishment of this type is needed in Fort
Collins. In closing, Mr. Wallace asked the Authority to disregard the
prejudices and bigotry of some of the people who have spoke in opposition
to the license.
Ms. Loretta Ryan, 1304 Lemay Avenue, was sworn and stated she supports the
granting of the license.
Mr. Jay Dawson, resident of Greeley, Colorado, was sworn. He stated he has
served as a Councilmember for 2 years in the City of Rosedale, as well as
town clerk for 18 months. Mr. Dawson stated he is gay. He went on to say
that he welcomes the establishment.
Chairperson Wilson informed Mr. Dawson that testimony is limited to in-
terested parties only.
Mr. Dawson stated he has been to The Sagebrush and that he has enjoyed the
company of well behaved, responsible men and women.
Ms. Mary Burns, 1304 South Lemay Avenue, was sworn, and stated she supports
a Tavern license for The Sagebrush.
Chairperson Wilson requested that everyone in favor of the license stand.
A total of 104 people stood. A total of 35 people who are interested
parties stood. (Secretary's Note: For this purpose, interested party was
defined as a property owner in the defined neighborhood area.) When asked
how many people were opposed to the license, a total of 14 people stood.
Likewise, 14 people stood as interested parties in opposition to the
license.
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Dr. Janet Pipal, 607 Parker, was sworn and stated that in her profession
she has counseled many gays. She stated there is a dire need for an estab-
lishment of this nature to locate in Fort Collins.
Dr. Bob Conlin, 725 East Elizabeth, was sworn. Dr. Conlin stated he
circulated petitions within the neighborhood area. He stated the issue was
raised as to what the difference is between a Tavern and a Hotel -Restaurant
license. Dr. Conlin stated he feels that this is the true reason as to why
people are opposed to the Tavern license.
Assistant City Attorney Ken Frazier requested the Authority adjourn into
executive session for the purpose of discussing legal issues.
Authority member Acott made a motion, seconded by Authority member Veazie,
to adjourn into executive session. Yeas: Acott, Long, Sheahan, Veazie and
Wilson. Nays: Monaghan. Abstain: Bujack.
Authority member Monaghan stated that he feels that most of the issues
raised during the opposition's testimony were irrelevant. He went on to
say that the moral character of the applicants and reasonable needs of the
neighborhood clearly show that the license for The Sagebrush should be
granted. On that basis, Mr. Monaghan made a motion, seconded by Authority
member Veazie, to grant the Tavern license for the Sagebrush Bar and
Restaurant, 934 Lemay Avenue.
Authority member Long stated that he feels the testimony and petitions
submitted clearly show that the needs of the neighborhood are not being
met.
Authority member Veazie pointed out that the schools in the neighborhood
are more than 500 feet from the establishment. He also stated that a
Tavern license can legally be issued at 934 Lemay Avenue.
Authority member Wilson stated that the Board's decision has to be based on
the needs and desires of the neighborhood. She stated she feels that the
turnout at the meeting proves that the neighborhood favors the license.
The motion was put with the following votes: Yeas: Acott, Long, Monaghan,
Sheahan, Veazie and Wilson. Nays: None. Abstain: Bujack.
Final Resolution on a
Tavern License for
Sagebrush Bar and Restaurant, 934 Lemay Avenue
The Resolution was read by title only.
Authority member Long made a motion, seconded by Authority member Monaghan,
to adopt the Resolution as presented. Yeas: Acott, Long, Monaghan, Shea-
han, Veazie and Wilson. Nays: None. Abstain: Bujack.
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Final Hearing and Final Resolution for a
Retail Liquor Store License for
Ace Liquors, 238 East Mountain Avenue
Assistant City Attorney Ken Frazier stated that this application has been
withdrawn. He noted that the application by Mr. Seo for both transfer of
ownership and transfer of location are being withdrawn. Ken went on to say
that staff has re -read the statutes and has determined that no one other
than the licensed holder should be allowed to transfer location of an
establishment. Therefore, Ken stated that Mr. Lee, the licensed holder,
will have to apply for any future transfer of location for Ace Liquors.
Police Report
Officer Frank Russell stated a routine spot compliance check was conducted
on September 20, 1983. He reported that the Cow Paddy and the Sports Page
were found in violation for serving to a minor. Officer Russell requested
show/cause hearings for the two establishments.
Authority member Monaghan made a motion, seconded by Authority member
Bujack, to determine that there is probable cause and scheduled a show/
cause hearing for both the Cow Paddy, 169 North College Avenue, and the
Sports Page, 181 North College Avenue, on November 9, 1983. Yeas: Acott,
Bujack, Long, Monaghan, Sheahan, Veazie and Wilson. Nays: None.
Officer Russell reported a violation which occurred at Ace Liquors, 200
East Mountain, for sale to a minor. It was noted that this was a spot
compliance check conducted at the request of Authority member Monaghan.
Officer Russell requested that a show/cause be scheduled.
Authority member Long made a motion, seconded by Authority member Bujack,
to determine that there is probable cause and scheduled a show/cause
hearing for November 9, 1983. Yeas: Acott, Bujack, Long, Monaghan, Shea-
han, Veazie and Wilson. Nays: None.
Officer Russell stated a memo was submitted for the Authority's review
concerning an incident occurring on September 20, 1983, with regard to Mr.
Seo, previous applicant for transfer of ownership of Ace Liquors. Officer
Russell stated since the applicant has withdrawn his application, he feels
the issue is irrelevant.
Officer Russell stated that he had some concerns with the Fort Town special
event held at the Oak Street Plaza on September 24, 1983. He reported that
no license was posted. In addition, barricades were not provided as stated
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to the Authority during the hearing in which the event was approved. It
was suggested that staff draw up guidelines for applicant's to follow with
regards to securing an area where beer and liquor is to be served. Author-
ity member Monaghan requested that in the future Officer Russell state his
recommendation with regard to security within his memo to the Authority.
In closing, Officer Russell stated letters of concern were sent to Washing -
tons and B-Cubed for failure to report disturbances. He stated the letters
were included in the Authority's packet for their review.
Adjournment
Authority member Bujack made a motion, seconded by Authority member
Monaghan, to adjourn.
The Chairperson put the motion which was unanimously adopted.
The meeting was adjourned at approxim tely 11:20 p.m.
Ch i erson
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