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Minutes: Regular Meeting of May 17, 2006
Council Liaison to the Board: Councilman Diggs Brown
Staff Support to the Board: Jerry P. Brown, Manager of Golf at 221-6350, and Dawn
Worth, Administrative Aide at 416-2265
Call Meeting to Order: Board Chairperson David Johnson called the meeting to order at
7:33 p.m. at the City Park Nine Clubhouse.
Agenda Review: There were no changes to the agenda as printed.
Items of Note:
♦ Deron Grothe, Dan Preble and David Thilmany called to say they would be absent
from the meeting. Larry Buckendorf called to say he would be late.
♦ Jerry informed the Board that we had a break-in at SouthRidge. A burglar broke
the glass on the south patio door then reached in and opened the door and stole
money from the cash register in the restaurant. The alarm did go off, but they
were gone before anyone responded. Jerry informed the Board that the door was
the original one that was put in and we will be replacing it with a sturdier door.
Grant Sherwood asked how much money was lost? Jerry wasn't sure of the
number. He said that SouthRidge Concessionaire Rob Dahl was going to provide
him with all of the information. (Note: $2,500 was stolen). Jay Kammerzell was
wondering if Rob had insurance that would help cover the loss and Jerry said
probably yes.
♦ Jerry discussed the marketing brochures that he had given the Board and the
Board was pleased with the way they turned out.
♦ Grant commented on a golf clip that he saw on the City of Fort Collins' cable
channel. Jerry said that was done a few years ago and that we also run it on
Comcast Cable in both Fort Collins and Cheyenne.
Approval of Minutes: On a motion by Grant Sherwood, seconded by Lauren DeRosa,
the Board unanimously (5:0) approved the Minutes of the April 19, 2006 Regular
Meeting.
Citizen Participation: No Citizen Participation at this time.
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David Johnson said the answers he received from Board Members were pretty consistent.
He compiled the answers and provided the Board with a copy. He asked if the Board felt
it was sufficient enough to send to Council and the Board agreed. Jerry requested the
Board make a motion to support the finalized questionnaire. He also reminded David
Johnson that he and Vice Chairperson Deron Grothe needed to be present at the July 11th
meeting with Council. On a motion made by Jay Kammerzell, seconded by Shane
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Houska, the Board voted unanimously (5:0) to approve and submit the finalized
questionnaire by the Golf Board to City Council.
Preliminary Review of Proposed 2007 Golf Fees and Charges
Jerry reminded the Board that we reviewed the information last year but didn't approve it
at that time. He feels that the staff proposed 2007 fees and charges are appropriate and
asked for the Board's support. He informed them that since we have already advertised
last year we don't necessarily need to hold a Public Input Meeting, however we could
again if we so choose. He asked the Board if they had any questions and stated that staff
was supportive of it. Shane Houska asked Jerry to remind them why the fees are different
between the courses. Jerry responded that there is a difference between the courses and
the amount charged is based on the demand for each course. Jerry stated that he and staff
have heard positive comments on changing City Park Nine to a Non -Prime Time course.
David Johnson also said that he has heard positive comments from individuals who have
played at City Park Nine. Grant Sherwood stated that he feels it would be better for us to
hold a Public Input Meeting and we should advertise again. It was agreed that an
advertisement would be run in the Coloradoan once, the information would be posted at
the Golf Courses, and we would ask Sean Duff to mention the fees and charges in his
column. Jerry said that the Board will further discuss and vote on the fees and charges at
the June meeting. Lauren DeRosa asked Jerry to clarify the concern a golfer recently had
about the elimination of Medical Golf Carts. Jerry said that he explained to them that we
decided last year to implement a Single Rider fee instead because the person needing the
Medical Cart was getting it at the reduced rate and the second person riding was also
benefiting from it and we felt that wasn't appropriate, nor a good business decision. He
said that the Single Rider rate is a little more but he doesn't feel it's out of line.
Board Members and Staff Comments/Reports
Grant Sherwood stated that they started the CSU League at City Park Nine and
complimented staff on the quality of the course. He felt it had really turned around in a
two week period. David Johnson stated that he's on the Grounds Committee for the Fort
Collins Country Club and they had someone come out to discuss the turf quality issue
and they were told that there was a lot of turf damage around the area. He shared with the
Board what was explained to them. Jerry said that he received a similar article that stated
Wyoming and the Front Range was hit with a lot of damage and he would send that to the
Board.
Correspondence/Financial and Statistical Reports
♦ Jerry stated that he gave the Board the updated Lease Purchase information that
showed the equipment we purchased... He reminded them that during a previous
months meeting that Grant Sherwood had requested a break down of revenue
information from SourthRidge Concessionaire, Rob Dahl, and he provided that...
Jerry received a letter from the PGA for Jim Greer for his certification in retail...
He mentioned an article discussing the new Timnath course and that the CSU
Golf Teams will be playing on it, and that he was told the teams are still interested
in occasionally practicing at Collindale.
♦ Jerry mentioned an article discussing the development of new golf courses. In the
article a developer stated that golf is nothing more than an amenity that adds value
to the real estate and people don't do this to make money on golf; golf courses are
a loss leader. Jerry said he saw a prediction that by 2008 there will be a large
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number of closed courses and a lot of them might be public courses. Shane
Houska feels that it would be difficult to still finance the private courses as well.
Jerry stated that the developer builds the course but when they leave it's usually
taken over by the HOA. He read an article where an HOA was having difficulty
because they had to make some major irrigation replacements to their course that
would cost the residents around $800.00 per family and those who didn't golf
didn't feel they should pay. He thinks it will be interesting to see what happens
over the years to courses around this area.
Adjournment:
On a motion by Shane Houska, seconded by Lauren DeRosa, the Board unanimously
voted (5:0) to adjourn at 8:05 p.m.
Meeting Attendance
Board Members
Lauren DeRosa
Shane Houska
David Johnson
Jay Kammerzell
Grant Sherwood
espectfully submitted,
Dawn Worth
Administrative Aide
Staff
Jerry P. Brown
Dawn Worth
Guests
Pat Finnegan