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CITY OF FORT COLLINS
KS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT
GOLF ADVISORY BOARD
MINUTES: Regular Meeting - June 15, 1983
The meeting was called to order at 6:10 P.M. by Acting Chairman, Jim Mitchell.
Chairman Tom Skillman is out of town on vacation, and Vice -Chair Eileen Banks
is absent. Board members asked Mr. Mitchell to serve as Acting Chairman for
tonight's meeting. Board Member, John Drescher, is also absent, so Alternate
member, Dick Zubradt, was given voting status.
The place for this meeting is the Collindale Golf Course brick maintenance
building. The last item on the Agenda is a guided tour of SouthRidge Greens
Golf Course, which was originally scheduled for the last meeting, but had
to be postponed until tonight due to bad weather last month.
AGENDA REVIEW - one item has been added to the Agenda, as follows: Item #7,
t er�i Business, "Proposal for Volunteer Ranger Program".
CITIZEN PARTICIPATION - Mr. Larry Thorpe commented about the 'offensiveness'
to some golfers especially women) of shirtless players on the golf courses.
Staff reported that requiring golfers to always wear shirts was very difficult
to enforce, and there is even some legal questions as to the enforceability
of a dress code.
The MINUTES of the last regular meeting of May 18, 1983, were approved
unan moi usTy as submitted, on a motion by Carl Kansala, seconded by Dick Zubradt.
Discussion of 1984 Proposed Budget
Jerry P. Brown distributed copies of the Golf Fund 1984 Proposed Budget, which
was submitted to the City Budget Office today. Jerry asked Board members to
study the information, and to discuss the budget in more detail next month.
Board members are encouraged to call staff if they have any specific questions/
concerns before the next meeting. Of particular note, Jerry pointed out that
the 1984 Budget included the necessity to increase 1984 Fees 10% across-the-board
for Annual Passes and Green Fees. Board members discussed other potential out-
side sources of income, such as Revenue Sharing, Charitable, the Lottery, etc.,
as possible money for Capital Improvements and equipment. Jerry said we are
suggesting to the City Manager, at the request of this Board at their last meeting,
that Lottery funds be spent for helping out the Golf Fund. We will keep you informed.
NEW Board Members
Jim Mitchell has decided to retire from the Golf Board after nearly eight years
of service, including serving as Chairman for several of those years. Among
other accomplishments, Mr. Mitchell was instrumental in keeping Pineridge Golf
Course site as a viable alternative, and with most recently chairing the Fee
Structure Committee. Mr. Mitchell was a valuable addition to the Golf Board in
Fort Collins, and he will be missed.
The City Council has appointed Alternate Member, Dick Zubradt, to replace Mr.
Mitchell. The Council also appointed Mrs. Shirley Adams to the Alternate
position. They will both begin their terms on July 1st.
Election of Officers for 1983/1984
According to the By-laws, the regular June Board meeting is the designated
meeting for election of officers for the next year. Currently, Tom Skillman
is Chairman, Eileen Banks is Vice -Chair, and Bill Basow is Secretary.
Bill Basow nominated Tom Skillman for Chairman. Carl Kansala seconded the
nomination. There were no further nominations, so Tom Skillman was unanimously
re-elected Chairman for 1983/1984.
Dick Zubradt nominated Eileen Banks for Vice -Chair. Bill Zech seconded the
nomination. There were no further nominations, so Eileen Banks was unanimously
re-elected Vice -Chair for 1983/1984.
Bill Basow declined to be re-elected Secretary. Bill Zech nominated Dick Zubradt
for Secretary. Bill Basow seconded the nomination. There were no further
nominations, so Dick Zubradt was unanimously elected Secretary for 1983/1984.
Proposal for Volunteer Ranger Program
Mr. Larry Thorpe presented a written proposal for a Volunteer Ranger Program for
the golf courses to maintain orderly play and the observation of golf course
etiquette. Mr. Thorpe explained his proposal, and his personal willingness to
serve in this capacity. He suggested that maybe the City could provide some
"free" rounds of golf to whomever volunteers his/her time. He said the City
needed to provide a cart for usage by the Ranger.
Board members and staff then discussed this proposal. Staff said that volunteer
Rangers generally have not worked out on golf courses for many reasons. Also,
the cost of taking one golf cart 'out of service' is a definite revenue loss
of anywhere between $7.00 to $24.00 per day, plus the wear-n-tear on the cart.
It was agreed that any ranger program needed to be fully under the control of
the Golf Pro. Then, after further discussion and comments, the Board, on a
motion by Bill Basow, seconded by Dick Zubradt, requested that staff develop a
limited -scale proposal for a trial, experimental program, including looking at
any costs, hours, pros and cons, etc. Staff can experiment if it chooses, to
help determine feasibility. The Board would like to discuss this topic again
at the next meeting before making a final decision. The motion passed unanimously.
Other Business
- Carl Kansala asked about the posibility of reducing green fees for senior
citizens. Jerry P. Brown responded that if any fees are reduced, we have to
raise someone else's fee to cover the loss. Tl-iere is no other realistic
choice; and staff does not intend to ask for any changes in the existing fee
structure.
- Larry Thorpe wants the City Council to take action to provide some subsidy to
the Golf Fund for Senior Citizens, Veterans, Handicapped, etc. Bill Basow
responded about past Board thoughts on this topic, and Jim Mitchell responded
about past City Council action and direction.. Mr. Thorpe still thinks the
Council should act.
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Jerry P. Brown reported that golf play and revenues were basically 'average'
at this point in time, and playership was at a maximum of course capacities
on good weather days, but that the bad weather days from mid -March on have
significantly impacted our financial situation. Staff projects we should
end the year achieving nearly 100% of revenues, and spending upwards of 98%
expenditures. As of this point in time, we are not making any expenditures
that are not absolutely necessary. We will re-evaluate our contingency
monies later this summer.
Jerry P. Brown referred to the correspondence, and the Financial and
Statistical reports.
Tour of SouthRidge Greens Golf Course
At 6:50 P.M., Board members, staff and guests, left the Collindale Maintenance
building and some drove to SouthRidge Greens Golf Course. Mr. Bernie Cain,
Mr. Cliff Buckely, and Mr. Frank Hummel of BOcain Corporation met us there,
and provided an in-depth tour of the site, and detailed explanations of plans,
etc. It was a very educational and informative tour.
Staff and Bucain representatives agreed to provide a similar tour to the City
Council, to be arranged sometime in the Fall, after the irrigation system is
in and the grass has grown.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:30 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
BILL BASOW, Secretary
MEETING ATTENDANCE
Board Members Staff Guests
Jim Mitchell Jerry P. Brown Shirley Adams
Carl Kansala Bill Metier Mr. Adams
Bill Basow Jim Greer Glenn Gettman (CMGA)
Bill Zech Doug Evans Anna Zier (CWGA)
Dick Zubradt Larry Thorpe
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