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CITY OF FORT COLLINS
PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT
Parks and Recreation Board
MINUTES: Special Meeting - May 1, 1985
The meeting was called to order at the Northside Aztlan Community
Center at 6:40 p.m. by President Bill Loy. Board Secretary Mike
ImMasche called to say he could not attend. President Loy appointed
Vice -President Cathy Mulcahy to be acting secretary for the meeting.
nda Review: No change to the printed agenda.
Citizen Participation: No citizen participation.
Northside Aztlan Community Center Renovation and Gymnasium Floor
Resurfacing Projects
Jerry P. Brown updated the Board on the prior meetings concerning this
project and why a special meeting was called. The complete report from
the consultant, as well as the staff report summary, were distributed
to Board Members last Friday. Jerry stated that staff still recommends
the "medium fix" as the most cost effective and logical alternative for
renovation. He explained the options available to the Board, reminding
them that budget limitations were the primary problems in the past.
Project Manager Ted Rutledge reviewed the history and need surrounding
the facility, and why a consultant was needed. The original scope was
for designing expansion, the feasibility of expanding, the soil
concerns, and working toward recommendations for final design of
building expansion. Safety is the major objective. Additional storage
is also needed. Essentially there are three approaches to renovation:
1. The band -aid fix; 2. The medium fix; 3. The big fix. The
consultant has recommended the medium fix which should stabilize the
life of the building.
Consultant Bob Sutter discussed the technological elements of the
building and the possible solutions, including the mechanical system,
new roof, gym floor and all other modifications, which have been
addressed and added to the medium fix. Mr. Sutter said if we choose to
go with the big fix for $550,000, we might as well ask for more money
and actually build a new center. The medium fix has the highest
probability of success while being most cost effective. He then went
on to explain the foundation and soil conditions, settlements and
voids, structural failures, where bedrock is located, the potentials of
methane gas, etc. He stated that the methane gas impact is minimal, as
verified by Health Department testing.
Mr. Sutter then explained the proposed stabilization process, including
the alternative of perma-jacking (a thick low -slump type grout injected
under pressure) to bedrock 14 feet to 16 feet below surface, steel
rods, beams, etc. Bob said that there are two existing conditions of
bedrock under the main frame and nowhere else, with the footings on
grade. The destruction in settlement has caused the gym floor to drop
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and it will fail eventually. In response to a question, he said that
in all prior correspondence, he could find no evidence of
irresponsibilities. Most destruction is limited to the slab. He then
asked the Board to not take a doomsday attitude. He explained the big
fix and again why he is recommending the medium fix. Basically we will
underpin all structural walls to upgrade the structure.
Bill Loy asked about the departmental long-term goals. Jean Helburg
responded that the City is always looking ahead. If this center
closes, we would hope to open something else new in the north side of
town. She reminded the Board, after another question on the poor
condition of city buildings, that both of our facilities (Northside
Aztlan Community Center and the Indoor Pool) were originally built with
limited funds.
Ann Schroeder said she wanted to know more about the finances. Fran
Bujack said we could borrow from the Parkland Fund or Lottery Fund.
Jerry responded that the $260,000 is available from existing City
Capital funds and Energy funds. All money over that amount should come
from City General Capital, and we should not reroute the money from
neighborhood parks or open space funding sources.
David Shands left the meeting at 8:00 p.m. because of a prior
appointment. Fran Bujack left the meeting at 8:15 p.m. also because of
prior commitments. Councilman Horak also left early.
There were many questions, answers, and comments. Among those, Bob
Aukerman stated he supports the consultant/staff recommendation of the
medium fix as logical and cost effective. Bill Loy feels maybe we
should recommend a new building to Council. Chuck Solano said if we
move the center, we will lose the reason it was intended for
originally: to provide for the lower socio-economic population. Cathy
Mulcahy agrees with staff on funding. She feels it is a City/Community
responsibility to pay for this project. She also agrees with Chuck in
that the Center should be where it is. She also supports the
consultant recommendation on the medium fix for the renovation.
At the last meeting on April 23, the Board voted 7:1 to recommend to
City Council that the Board endorse the $260,000 (medium fix)
renovation project, but asked that Council consider somehow funding the
full $550,000 for maximum (big fix) renovation, even if it takes two
years worth of funding sources to accomplish it.
Bob Aukerman made a motion to now recommend the medium fix ($260,000)
and because of growth and need, to take the additional money estimated
for the big fix (approximately $300,000) and apply it into expansion
because of life expectancy of the buildings to make the facility right.
Chuck Solano seconded the motion. Ann Schroeder asked if we could
table the motion until other engineers have a chance to discuss the
probable methane gas situation. Karen Schubert is not in favor of the
$300,000 for expansion, but does favor the medium fix. Karen then made
an amendment motion to delete the $300,000. Ann Schroeder seconded the
amendment. The Board voted 3:3 on the amendment, which failed. The
original motion is still on the floor.
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Chuck Solano withdrew his second and Bob Aukerman withdrew his motion.
Bob Aukerman then made a motion that the Board STRONGLY recommends the
medium fix of $260,000. Chuck Solano seconded the motion. The Board
voted unanimously (6:0) to approve the motion.
Bob Aukerman made another motion that the Board also recommend
expansion of the Northside Aztlan Community Center, as detailed in the
consultant report for $312,000 with the funding coming from the City
Capital General Fund in order to meet the original expectations, and
because of growth and need, etc. Chuck Solano seconded the motion.
After further discussion, including the statement by the consultant
that the medium fix should stabilize the structure for up to 30 years,
and an expansion addition would last up to 40 years, so any expansion
should be done within the next five years or not at all. The Board
voted 4:2 to approve the motion, with Ann Schroeder and Karen Schubert
voting no. Karen said she feels the concept is right, but the site is
wrong. Ann agreed.
Bill Loy later requested that staff
for a joint meeting of the Board
discuss expansion of Northside.
Corridor Alternatives Resort Update
prepare a letter to Council asking
and Council, or a worksession, to
Jerry re-emphasized the report on corridor alternatives previously
distributed and requested that if any individual Board Member has any
input that they should contact the Planning Department or Councilman
Ohlson or Stoner as soon as possible. We will also discuss it as a
topic at the next Board meeting.
Other Business
- Staff distributed the draft of the minutes of the April 23 meeting
for approval at our next Board meeting.
- Staff previously distributed copies of a report on development of
neighborhood parks, which will also be a topic at our next Board
meeting.
- Bill Loy shared the letter from Mayor Rutstein on Board involvement
with the Poudre River Trust and Art in the Parks.
The meeting adjourned at 9:05 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Cathy Mulcahy, Vice -President
(Acting Secretary)
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Meeting Attendance
Board Members
Bill Loy
Cathy Mulcahy
Bob Aukerman
Fran Bujack
Ann Schroeder
David Shands
Karen Schubert
Chuck Solano
Staff
Jerry P. Brown
Jean Helburg
Ted Rutledge
Randy Balok
Gary Everett
Guests
Councilman Horak
Bob Sutter