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CITY OF FORT COLLINS
M E M O R A N D U M
DATE: December 1, 1977
TO: Fort Collins Human Relations Commission
r^''�FROM: Mary Ann Kennaugh, Secretary
RE: Minutes of the November 10, 1977 Regular Meeting
I. Call to Order
Called to order by Chairman Napheys at 7:35 p.m., City Council chambers,
300 W. LaPorte Avenue.
II. Roll Call
Members Ptiesent:
Don Shoemaker
Don Lambert
Bob Zimdahl
Ken Drieth
Kelsey Smith
Pam Sysum
Ben Napheys
Members Absent:
Steve Smith
III. Receive Announcement of the Resi
Staff:
Rosita Bachmann
Mary Ann Kennaugh
Guests
Lucia Li9ey, Asst. City Attorney
John E. Arnold, City Manager
ion of Gloria Hershberoer and Corsi
Copies of a resignation letter received from Gloria Hershberger (effective
October 27, 1977) indicating her recent employment in Denver, were distri-
buted with the agenda packet.
Commission Member Lambert nominated Kelsey Smith as secretary to fill the
unexpired term of Gloria Hershberger. Commission Member Zimdahl seconded,
and Commission Member Kelsey Smith was elected Secretary by acclamation.
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Minutes of the November 10, 1977 Regular Meeting
Page Two
IV. Consider Approval of the September 8, 1977 Regular Meeting Minutes
Commission Member Shoemaker moved approval of the September 8, 1977 regular
meeting minutes. Commission Member Zimdahl seconded, and minutes were approved
by a vote of 7 - 0. Ayes: Commission Members Shoemaker, Lambert, Zimdahl,
Drieth, Kelsey Smith, Sysum, and Napheys. Nays: None.
Consider Approval of the Amended Police Grievance Procedure - Lucia Liley
Lucia Liley distributed copies of the proposed amendments to the Police
Grievance Procedure (Exhibit A attached). She indicated that the amend-
ments were the result of a meeting of the Police Grievance Committee,
which was called to address dissatisfaction and misunderstanding of
certain provisions of the Procedure by police officers.
Liley briefly reviewed each of the amendments with the following comments:
Amendment numbered I states that non -cooperation on the
part of the Complainant could lead to dismissal of the complaint.
(Liley related this amendment back to the statement in the procedure,
Section IV J, which states that failure of the police officer to
cooperate in any part of the investigation could make him subject to
dismissal, and that police officers felt it only fair if a similar
stipulation was set for the Complainant.)
Amendment numbered II would call for three members of the Human Relations
Commission to be appointed to hear any complaints forwarded for review.
Liley further indicated that some police officers fear a member of the
Human Relations Commission appointed to such a Committee may have a
potential "conflict of interest", e.g. the two attorneys on the Commission,
and that there be careful evaluation of who is appointed to such Committee.
- Amendment numbered III clarifies findings made by the Investigator.
Amendment numbered IV changes the word "may" to "shall" in the following
statement regarding the polygraph exam: "If a Complainant is so requested
and refuses to take a polygraph, the investigation shall be terminated
at that point.
This amendment also calls for administration of the polygraph outside of
the Police Department.
Commission Member Sysum expressed support for Amendment numbered III.
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Following were points of discussion regarding the proposed amendments to
the Police Grievance Procedure:
Zimdahl: Why only 3 members of the Human Relations Commission? (reference
to Amendment numbered II) (Liley: The Police -Grievance Committee felt:
1) It would be difficult to get all 9 Human Relations Commission members
together, and, 2) as a metter of security --- we are dealing with highly
confidential material, and a limited number of persons should be
reviewing it.)
Is there a problem with 3 members making decisions for the whole Human
Relations Commission? (Napheys: My opinion: the fact that there are
3 members means that they would be speaking for themselves; not the
Human Relations Commission as a whole. They would be speaking as
Committee members. It boils down to being 3 members of the Committee.
- Three members effectively removes the Human Relations Commission as
having decision making power. (Napheys: It comes back to the question
as to whether the Human ReNations Commission should be involved at all.)
(Bachmann: I recall that the Human Relations Commission has always been
involved.) (Liley: The three members could be a committee of the Com-
mission, like the Handicapped Advisory Committee.) If the Committee
brings its finding back to the Human Relations Commission, then the
• Human Relations Commission moves on it, it would be a Human Relations
Commission decision. (Bachmann: Citizens want the Human ReNations
Commission involved.) (Sysum questioned the credibility of such a
decision if only three members were involved.)
Napheys: (Speaking as a member, not Chairman). The amendments seem to change
the whole concept. The procedure becomes an "escape valve or outlet" for
the community; it becomes a procedural delay. If someone really has a
complaint, there are means of resolving it (reference to the courts).
Why have the amendments only gone
through the Police Department, and are just now coming to the Human Relations
Commission? I object to the change of wording of "may" to "shall" (reference
to polygraph and termination of investigation, Amendment numbered IV).
The tone of the change is "By God, you better not file a complaint".
Zimdahl: I do not like the change of "may" to "shall". I don't like the
polygraph at all; I don't like the tone.
Liley: There have been significant compromises on all parts. The Police
Department has given many compromises. The polygraph is just as intimi-
dating to the police officer as to the complainant. (Napheys: Just
delete the polygraph.) Council dictated the use of the polygraph; it is
used as a tool. (Napheys: Not if you use "shall" instead of "may".)
(Zimdahl: The polygraph is not 100% sure. It is only a part of the
evidence.) (Sysum: The polygraph exam makes it seem more objective.)
• (Shoemaker: I don't find it objective at all.) (Napheys: It is not a
scientific methodology.)
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Lambert: At our September meeting, we forwarded a letter to City Council
supporting the Procedure as it was presented. (Review of the letter.)
Why the amendments now? (Liley: Bud Reed, as a member of the Police
Committee, indicated that the police officers (e.g., "out on the street")
felt that they had not been made fully aware of the procedure, and met
with the police department lieutenants to express dissatisfaction.)
Napheys: The procedure was originally proposed by an ad hoc committee ' re-
ference to the original Police -Community Relations Committee.) (Liley:
The Police Committee was established by City Council.) (Bachmann gave
a brief background of the Police -Community Relations Committee and its
establishment e.g., the original workshops regarding police -community
relations.)
Napheys: I had a conversation with Chief Smith, who indicated support of the
procedure, as approved by the Human Relations Commission, with no objections.
Zimdahl: I would like to endorse Ben's letter of September 8, 1977, and
would like to send the procedure, along with the police:amendments, to City
Council and review it after six months.
Kelsey: If the police officers are disenchanted or unsatisfied, it will lead
• to chaos. We're back at Step 1 again. I am not prepared to make these
amendments.
Liley: I do not care to present the Procedure to Council without unanimous
support. Police officers will be out in force to oppose the Procedure if
it goes to Council as it now stands. They feel strongly about it. I
met with the Police -Committee for 22 hours to arrive at the amendments.
(Zimdahl: Was there anyone with a Chicano last name at this meeting?)
Paul Salas did not register objections to the amendments. (Zimdahl:
I don't feel the minority community is equally well represented and
aware of the amendments.)
Napheys: I don't like the reference to lawyers and conflict of interest.
Bachmann: Would the Human Relations Commission consider a public hearing on
the issue? (Negative responses were expressed.)
Shoemaker: I just barely went along with the Procedure the last time. I
can't agree at all with these amendments.
Commission Member Kelsey Smith moved further endorsement of the letter from
Ben Napheys as Chairman (dated September 8, 1977), stating the Human Relations
Commission's position, and to voice dissatisfaction with the amendments, and
that the Commission take no action on the amendments at this time, but re-
ceive and review, the amendments six months after the procedure is enacted.
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Commission Member Zimdahl seconded, and motion passed with the following vote:
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Page Five
6 - 1. Ayes: Commission Members Shoemaker, Lambert, Zimdahl, Drieth,
Kelsey Smith, and Napheys. Nays: Commission Member Sysum.)
Chairman Napheys will write another letter endorsing the Commission's pre-
vious position, not accepting the amendments, and recommending that City
Council pass the Procedure as it now stands.
Liley: The City Manager will decide if the Procedure goes to City Council.
If it is presented to City Council, we (the Police Committee) would like
a Human Relations Commission member to speak for the Commission.
Zimdahl: Can the Human Relations Commission be superseded in its recommenda-
tion to forward the procedure to City Council? (Liley: The City Manager
ultimately decides. The City Council can put items on the agenda.)
VI. Receive Revenue Sharing Larimer Human Resource Board Fundi
airman
Chairman Napheys indicated that the Larimer Human Resource Board's funding
recommendations for Fort Collins were adopted in toto, except for Care -A -
Van, who was funded separately from the other agencies.
• He further indicated that full details were available to any member who
desired them.
VII. Receive Education Committee Presentation and Conduct Discussion of Education
Committee Issues
Chairman Napheys turned the Chair over to Commission Member Shoemaker as
Chairman of the Education Committee.
Following were points of discussion:
Shoemaker: The Education Committee has had one meeting. (He requested that the
Commission members join in the discussion of issues.)
- The Committee would like to work with Rosita Bachmann, Human Rights
Officer, in meeting public requests for seminars, panels, and other
public forums for information and/or education regarding the Human
Rights Ordinance, but has some reservations. Self -education is the
first step (the Committee feels inadequate at this point to address
such issues.) Forms for how to address such issues were discussed.
Bachmann: In the past, we have had series of seminars. Discussion of
human relations with school PTO's and church groups is a possibility,
• can be on an informal basis.A possible topic is "Why do we Have a Human
Rights Ordinance?".
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Bachmann indicated she had made 1,500 personal contacts last year. She
further indicated that she has formulated some basic speeches which
she gives, and that they vary depending on the specific audience.
Human Relations Commission members could make speeches and have group
discussions on an informal basis.
Shoemaker: The format I had in mind was a type of panel discussion. (Bachmann
indicated that that was the format used in working with the Chamber of
Commerce.)
Napheys: We could send letters to all professional, service, etc. clubs,
saying that we would accept invitations for speakers.
Bachmann: We have received several requests from the press for information
and responses to human rights issues. It would be nice if the Human
Relations Commission members could address editorials, etc.
Lambert: We would need some kind of mass media as well as informal panels.
Bachmann: We could send open letters to newspapers with questions.
• Shoemaker: I would like to explore this, we need to get specific and get
commitments from the press.
The Committee got into specific topics, e.g., rights of ex -offenders,
more contact with the Chicano community.
Lambert suggested involvement with Holy Family Church and the Assembly of
God.
Sysum suggested working through Community Education.
Shoemaker indicated that the Committee discussed the need to educate the
City as well as the general public.
Zimdahl suggested starting with existing channels and that letters sent to
various clubs and agencies could be a motivator.
Napheys: We need to establish internal agreement as to responding to the
public.
The Education Committee will get a packet together with specific topics and
potential contacts to be presented to the Commission in January.
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VIII. Receive Announcement of Nominati
Chairman Nao Fevs
Committee A
Chairman Napheys indicated that the Nominating Committee shall be comprised
of the members of the Executive Committee (Ben Napheys, Don Shoemaker, and
Kelsey Smith).
Commission Member Napheys indicated that it is up to City Council to appoint
new members to the Commission.
Commission Member Napheys moved that, as a general policy, when a vacancy occurs
during a term, that the Commission recommend that Council review the applications
received for the most recently advertised vacancy and select a replacement from
among the applicants still willing to serve. He further recommended that Paul
Salas be recommended to fill the vacancy on the Commission created by the_resigna-
tion of Gloria Hershberger. Commission Member Zimdahl seconded, and motion
passed 7 - 0. Ayes: Commission Members Shoemaker, Lambert, Zimdahl, Drieth,
Kelsey Smith, Sysum, and Npaheys. Nays: None.
Commission Member Lambert indicated that he would like to see more women on
the Commission.
IX. Subsequent Meeti1ng_s - General and Specific Agendas.
As indicated inthe agenda, future meeting agendas were reviewed.
X. Other Business
Bachmann reported on the success of the Equal Employment Opportunity workshops,
and expressed gratitude to the Chamber of Commerce for covering the expenses.
XI. Adjournment
Commission Member Shoemaker moved for adjournment and Commission Member
Zimdahl seconded. Meeting was adjourned at 9:30 p.m. by acclamation.