HomeMy WebLinkAboutParks And Recreation Board - Minutes - 05/22/1991CITY OF FORT COLLINS
CULTURAL, LIBRARY, AND RECREATIONAL SERVICES
PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD
MINUTES: Regular Meeting -- May 22, 1991
President Bob McCluskey called the public meeting to order at 7:05 p.m. Board
Member Mary Ness called to say he would not be able to attend tonight's meeting.
Agenda Review: No changes to the printed agenda.
Minutes: The minutes of the regular meeting of April 24, 1991 were unanimously
approved on a motion by Bob Alexander, seconded by John Barnett.
Citizen Participation: No citizen participation.
Parks and Forestry Operating and Maintenance Funding Strategy
Director of Cultural, Library, and Recreational Services Mike Powers started the
discussion by stating that the Parks and Forestry 0&M Funding Strategy has been
on staff's agenda for several years. The presentation before the Board tonight
will be done by one of the department's Quality Improvement Teams. This team has
been working on this project for one year.
There are three major problems that need to be addressed in Parks and Forestry
Maintenance as follows:
1. Maintenance dollars for new growth.
2. Renovation and replacement dollars for existing assets.
3. Define appropriate level of maintenance.
The team's first step was to prepare a survey to send to 1,400 residents in Fort
Collins in all four zip code areas. City Forester/Team Leader Tim Buchanan
reviewed the survey results with the Board. Of the 1,400 surveys sent out, 50
percent were completed and returned to staff. Staff performed an intercept
survey. These one-on-one surveys were conducted at the community parks and at
the majority of the neighborhood parks. Of the 223 surveys conducted, 87 percent
were Fort Collins residents.
As taxpayers, 67 percent surveyed would be willing to pay more for additional
park facilities. In summary of the survey, the community is highly pleased with
the park system in Fort Collins. The desire for more open space is evident and
the trail system is most valued by the greatest number of people surveyed. The
complaints that resulted from the survey were the restrooms, drinking fountains,
followed by picnic -related facilities. Loose dogs and geese are considered a
large problem and better litter control is desired.
The next step was to tie the survey results to the money spent. Park Planner
Leslie Bryson presented an inventory plan as appeared on Page 6 of the draft
report. This inventory comparison from 1985 to 1990 is a framework for the
development of the maintenance plan.
After the inventory was developed, staff tied a cost accounting system to the
inventory. Parks Supervisor Bob Loeven and Park Project Analysis Chuck Ainsworth
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addressed this. Chuck took the average of playground equipment costs and
maintenance over a 15-year period. The playground equipment must be maintained
at a level to provide for the safety of the children using the equipment. An
average cost of all playgrounds in the city amounts to approximately $1,800 per
area. Of those surveyed, 69 percent rated the playgrounds in the good to better
standard..
On the other hand, Bob Loeven said the survey indicated that only 40 percent
thought we did a good job on the restrooms. Their major complaints were that the
restrooms in the community parks are not open through the winter and some park
restrooms are not clean enough. The total cost per year for Parks Maintenance
restrooms cleaning is $80,533.
Parks Manager Virgil Taylor gave a history of the components of the facilities'
and vegetation life cycle. From the time a facility is completed, the
deterioration begins. The examples highlighted were a section of the Poudre
Trail from Shields to College, which was constructed in 1978 with a cost of
$100,000, and has a life expectancy of 20 years. The crack sealing costs $650
per mile per year. Another example was a 2 inch caliper deciduous tree is
planted and the cost to maintain that tree when it reaches an 8 inch caliper is
$75 per year.
Mike Powers reviewed the recommendation. There are three areas that will be
recommended to City Council. The first is the service level adjustments. The
areas where the survey indicated an "excellent" rating could potentially be
dropped in maintenance to a "good" level spending more time on the areas that
received "fair" levels of maintenance. The second area is the financial
management policy. While the City has done a good job in planning for new
facilities, we have not been successful in developing a funding strategy for the
on -going maintenance of these new facilities. These costs need to be adopted
into our budgets. The third area is the capital renovation and replacement.
There needs to be operation and maintenance money budgeted into capital
construction.
Board Member John Barnett said he likes the approach staff took to this problem.
The decision Council needs to make is do they want to make this funding a
commitment. He said the construction of a project is generally only five percent
of the life -time expenditures over a 30-year period. K-Lynn Cameron likes the
philosophy developed and applauds staff. Rene' Clements Cooney agreed with the
other two Board members and asked what happened to the Adopt -A -Median program?
Staff replied that it is still in operation, but isn't as popular as Adopt -A -
Trail program. Karen Schubert said the plan is well done. The criticism of the
restrooms should not be of a major concern. When people criticize the restrooms,
they don't take into consideration that there might have been a major event that
just occurred at that particular facility. Virgil replied that the major
concerns of the restrooms is that they are not open during the winter months.
On a motion by Bob Alexander, seconded by Rene' Clements Cooney, the Board
unanimously (6-0) approved the concept of the Parks and Forestry Maintenance
Plan.
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Discussion on Community Pool Replacement
Recreation Manager Jean Helburg updated the Board on the options for the pool
replacement.
On March 19, 1991, City Council adopted a resolution authorizing replacement of
the Fort Collins Community Pool instead of renovation. Council directed staff
to prepare various options for replacement, and to include information about
design, location, and programming of a facility that would meet the needs and
desires of the swimming population. Staff has relied on information gathered
from the Senior Center Feedback Network and Building Team, and information from
other recreation center/pool operators in the state.
Staff recommends that a replacement pool include eight -lanes, 25-yard lap pool
with a diving well. EPIC pool is a 10-lane 50-meter pool. Options for
replacement are to replace on the same site; replace as a stand-alone facility
on a site to be determined; replace east of Rocky Mountain High School; or
attach to the new senior citizen center planned for construction in 1993. All
of the options reviewed would take close to four acres of land. Presently, there
is $1,360,000 in the budget. The amount needed for an eight -lane pool would cost
three times that amount. In reviewing the outcome of the survey, the top option
would be to build the pool with the senior center and the least preferred option
was combining the pool with one of the schools.
Citizen Katie Anderson asked if staff has considered building the pool in one of
the existing community parks? Rene' addressed her question stating that would
take away from parkland that some citizens are using. It is also against the
Board's recommendation to utilize already developed parkland to build a facility.
Bob McCluskey asked when the indoor pool was functional was there room to grow
in swim programs. Jean replied that before EPIC was built the pool was full at
all times of the day and evening. After EPIC opened, there was a steady decline
in participation at the indoor pool. Poudre R-1 dropped its 4th grade program
in 1988 which caused a large void in day -time swimming at the pool. If the
public has a choice, they will choose EPIC to swim instead of the indoor pool
where the water temperature is never the same and the overall conditions are
poor.
Poudre R-1 Representative Dave Danielson asked if there is a location determined
for the senior center. Jean replied that the Building Team has looked at 29
building sites in Fort Collins. Staff is in a holding pattern until Council
decides if the pool will go with the senior center.
FAST Representative Wayne Brothers said his group looks at three key variables.
The first is the size of the new pool. It needs to be at least an eight -lane
pool and the City should target a larger pool for growth. Secondly, the timing
of the closure of the indoor pool will have a major impact on the competitive
swimmers in Fort Collins. The third concern is the location of the pool. With
the majority of growth to the south part of the city, Wayne feels it is only
logical to build in the south area. Locating the pool next to the senior center
is not a good idea to the FAST group. Discussion was raised as to shared costs
of this pool with Poudre R-1.
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Bob Alexander feels it is a better sell to Council to build the pool separate
from the senior center. Karen Schubert suggested this pool be built with the
senior center and when the new Fort Collins High School is built, add a pool to
it. Therefore, the City would have three pools as is suggested in the Parks and
Recreation Master Plan. Karen encouraged the FAST parents to talk to Poudre
R-1. John Barnett said as a taxpayer, it doesn't matter which pocket the money
is taken qut of as long as the citizens' needs are met. Citizen Katie Anderson
questioned Poudre R-1 and the City working together? She questioned who would
pay for what? Dave Danielson said there is a City Council/School Board Task
Force in place to discuss these issues.
Staff will bring a full package to the Board at the June 26 meeting and ask for
the Board's recommendation at that time.
Waste Wood Update
At the April Board Meeting, City Forester Tim Buchanan talked to the Board about
the problem of waste wood disposal and spelled out the steps staff was taking to
alleviate this disposal. At that time, the Board voted 4-3 to approve the Waste
Wood Utilization Plan as submitted by staff. The three no voters stated they
would like staff to explore privatization of this idea with other cities and the
county. If this is not cost effective with the other cities, they would then
support staff's proposal. Staff has explored this possibility and presented
their findings at the Board meeting tonight. There is no private company in the
State of Colorado that does wood processing for municipalities. However, there
is an individual in Colorado Springs who processes the wood after the City chips
it. The City of Colorado Springs processes 7,000 cu. yards of wood where the
City of Fort Collins processes approximately 2,000 cu. yards of waste wood
annually. Hence this privatization would not be beneficial to any individual.
Therefore staff would like to proceed to locate funding to purchase a chipper to
do on -site wood chipping. After discussion, the Board, on a motion by John
Barnett, seconded by K-Lynn Cameron, voted unanimously (6-0) to endorse the
program of purchasing a wood chipper. They would recommend that staff continue
exploring the privatization of this function in future years after the program
is established.
Review of Natural Areas Policy Plan
Natural Resources Administrator Tom Shoemaker previously sent the Board copies
of the Natural Areas Policy Plan for their review. Tonight he is looking for the
Board's comments on the report. Rene' had taken the Natural Areas tour and said
that was very helpful to her. K-Lynn asked if another tour is scheduled? Tom
said the Storm Drainage Board is touring on Wednesday, June 12 at 7:00 a.m. and
that the Parks and Recreation Board is welcome to attend. Karen Schubert, K-Lynn
Cameron, and John Barnett will take this tour. The tour will leave from City
Hall West. The Board suggested that an executive summary of the report be
published. John Barnett suggested a vision statement as it is the sharing of
the vision that is the important element of the report. Tom has a 20-minute
slide presentation to share with the Board. However, because of the lenght of
tonight's meeting, the Board chose not to view the slides, but asked that they
be Available at another time. He said he would be back to the Parks and
Recreation Board in July or August for an endorsement of the policy.
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Other Business
- Bob McO uskey attended the Poudre Heritage Meeting. He said the major
concerns were water and agriculture. People were leery of the way the plan
is laid out. The Greeley people feel it needs a better balance.
- John Barnett is a member of the Larimer County Parks Task Force Committee
representing the Parks and Recreation Board. He was very impressed with
this group and feels they will make a positive impact.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:30 p.m.
Res ctfully su tted,
?1ael, Administrative Aide II
Meeting Attendance
Board Members Staff Guests
Bob McCloskey
Robert Alexander
John Barnett
K-Lynn Cameron
Rene' Cooney
Karen Schubert
Michael W. Powers
Jerry P. Brown
Jean Helburg
Tim Buchanan
Virgil Taylor
Bob Loeven
Leslie Bryson
Chuck Ainsworth
Tom Shoemaker
Pool Interest
Citizens (FAST
Reps):
Beryl Yonkin
Kris Brothers
Katie Anderson
Rob Uhlrich
Wayne Brothers
Rowland Wasgatt
Tom Ullman
Barb Ullman
Joy Batley