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HomeMy WebLinkAboutParks And Recreation Board - Minutes - 02/26/1992CITY OF FORT COLLINS CULTURAL, LIBRARY, AND RECREATIONAL SERVICES PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD CITY COUNCIL LIAISON TO THE BOARD: Councilman Gerry Horak STAFF SUPPORT TO THE BOARD: Jerry P. Brown, Assistant to the Director, and Jackie Rael, Administrative Aide II MINUTES: Regular Meeting -- February 26, 1992 President Bob McCluskey called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m. Poudre R-1 Representative Dave Danielson called to say he would not be able to attend tonight's meeting. AGENDA REVIEW: Citizen Participation was moved to later in the meeting as the newspaper stated tonight's Parks and Recreation Board meeting will be held at EPIC. Staff wanted citizens to have the opportunity to be redirected to 281— North College for tonight's meeting. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: The minutes of the regular meeting of January 22, 1992 were approved unanimously on a motion by Mary Ness, seconded by Roger Tarum. CITY PARK AS THE OFFICIAL "CITY ARBORETUM" City Forester Tim Buchanan came before the Board to recommend that City Park be the official "City Arboretum" because of the wide variety of trees in this park. On a motion by Elery Wilmarth, seconded by K-Lynn Cameron, the Board voted unanimously (8-0) to accept City Park as the official City Arboretum. Tim further stated that he talked to Mrs. Alexander and she would like the City's memorial tree planting for her late husband (former Board Member Bob Alexander) planted in City Park. SENIOR CENTER SITE SELECTION Recreation Manager Jean Helburg updated the Board on Council's worksession last night. The three site recommendations were presented to Council by staff. Council has delayed the decision on the site selection, and they will host a public meeting in Council Chambers March 31 for citizen input. By Council's direction, staff will look at other publicly -owned land. The only City -owned land that thus far seems conducive for this center would be next to EPIC. Citizen Donna Visocky asked if the Edora Park neighborhood has been contacted as they were opposed to the traffic in their neighborhood when EPIC was built? Jean said they have not as yet been notified since the Edora site is still in the preliminary discussion stage. Staff will keep the Board updated on the public meeting on March 31. Parks and Recreation Board Minutes February 26, 1992 Page 2 CITIZEN PARTICIPATION At last month's public meeting, Citizen Patrick Legel came before the Board regarding a Fort Collins River Park. He returned this month to give the Board a memo asking their support of such a river park. He feels there is a need for the City to take over the old water treatment plant on the Poudre River as a mountain park in Fort Collins. Jerry P. Brown addressed Mr. Legel. Jerry said that this area is currently outside the mission and scope of our urban oriented jurisdiction and is not in our Parks and Recreation Master Plan. Jerry also noted an invitation to the Parks and Recreation Board from Wil Smith of the Natural Resources Board. This invitation was to tour the old water treatment plant as Mr. Smith noted "this property will probably fall in the jurisdiction of Parks and Recreation..." Jerry wanted it to go on record that Parks and Recreation is not currently considering "taking over" this site, and this is merely an assumption on the part of Mr. Smith. Mr. Legel said that the State has tried to negotiate this land with the City for the past five years. Marilyn Barnes asked if the County would be interested in — this land. K-Lynn Cameron, who is an employee of the Larimer County Parks Department, said that the County is performing a study on this area. She said that if the City has a problem of interest in outdoor recreation, then this Board needs to take an active role in this. John Barnett felt there could be some revenue generated in this area that could be used for operation and maintenance of this park. He said there is a real need to encourage recreation on the river. Roger Tarum said the Forest Service is also doing a study in this area. Marilyn Barnes suggested a cooperative agreement similar to what we are doing with the School District and private groups at Boltz Junior High fields. Jerry said staff could encourage the Water Department to proceed with this project. Bob McCluskey asked that staff communicate and facilitate this project with other City departments, and have Randy Balok keep the Board informed. Mr. Legel noted that Loveland's mountain park in 1991 had over 90,000 visitors. BALLFIELD SCOREBOARD ADVERTISING SIGNAGE Recreation Supervisor Mike McDonnell and Parks and Recreation Marketing Specialist Donna Visocky talked to the Board about ballfield scoreboard advertising. Staff is interested in placing advertising on the scoreboards at three fields at Rolland Moore Park and at the City Park ballfields. There are existing signs at City Park ballfields that have been grandfathered in under the existing law. These signs would be repainted. The signs at Rolland Moore would be two feet high and the width of the existing scoreboards. The recommended sign program has been approved by Building Inspection and the signs do meet City code. Mary Ness said that several years ago when he worked at University Park Holiday Inn, he proposed such a program to former Director of Parks and Recreation H. R. Phillips. At that time, the revenue wasn't needed and the director turned down their offer. Mike McDonnell said that times have changed and the philosophy has Parks and Recreation Board Minutes February 26, 1992 Page 3 changed. Karen Schubert has only one problem with this and that is that there not be any advertising of tobacco or alcohol. Staff assured the Board that the ballfield advertising policy that the Parks and Recreation Board approved in 1985, and the 1987 advertising policy at EPIC which precluded direct alcohol and tobacco advertising would be maintained for these signs. Mary said that it is a known fact that the Recreation business has to promote alternative means of revenue sources. For example there is advertising in the Moby Arena at CSU for the same purpose of what staff is presenting tonight. Mary said he is an active supporter of sports in Fort Collins. He donates trophies to the Department every year for softball, volleyball, and basketball. John Barnett said we need to think the price of visual quality in Rolland Moore Park is far more important than $3,000 in revenue. After much discussion, there was a motion by K-Lynn Cameron, seconded by Bob McCluskey, that the Board adopt advertising on ballfield scoreboards as presented tonight by staff utilizing the philosophy adopted for advertisement at EPIC. The vote was 2-4-2 (K-Lynn Cameron and Bob McCluskey voting yes; Marilyn Barnes, Roger Tarum, John Barnett, and Karen Schubert voting no; and Mary Ness and Elery Wilmarth abstaining) and therefore the motion was defeated. Karen Schubert said she would like to have this brought back to the — Board next month so that she can think about it and not have to make a decision tonight. Jerry asked the Board if if this action tonight meant that our advertising policy was eliminated, and several Board members said no. PRELIMINARY DESIGN CONCEPTS FOR PROSPECT ROAD STREETSCAPE PROGRAM Project Manager Janet Meisel presented the second phase of the Prospect corridor design program. She gave a 20-minute slide presentation and then reviewed several charts showing standards and guidelines. The mission statement and work program for this project has been approved by the Planning and Zoning Board. Janet then asked for questions from the Board. Karen Schubert asked if the grade of the road over I-25 is as high as it appears, you would be looking on the roof tops of the businesses? Janet replied that is true, but shrubs and trees would buffer that. Bob McCluskey asked about the split in separating bikes and pedestrians? Janet replied, it would not limit anyone to any place. Signs would be placed on the lower trail recommended for horses and recreation bikers, which would allow commuter bikers the bikeway. K-Lynn Cameron asked who pays for the landscaping in section B and C of the plans? Janet said this is Parks and Recreation's major concern because the City would maintain the street trees and medians. Staff would look for other opportunities, i.e., Project Releaf and other service groups for donations. John Barnett stated on the trail concept when there is a soft surface, trail bikes and pedestrians mix well. When mixed on a paved trail, the bikes go faster and problems exist with the bikers and pedestrians. A parallel trail of soft surface would be better. He would like to see a gallery forest along the river and then willows and shrubs further back. K-Lynn asked if this has been seen by the development community? Janet said they have seen it and the only concerns expressed are in D and E with visibility in E. The residential community in this area favor E. Roger Tarum asked what are the plans to expand Timberline? Janet said the design will be completed in 1995 Parks and Recreation Board Minutes February 26, 1992 Page 4 and construction will be in 1996/97. Other comments by the Board were that Janet has done an excellent job with fantastic planning. John Barnett suggests that when the City is at the point of beginning this project that an ecological advisor be hired. Janet said that CSU is also working on this in a much broader vision. BOARD MEMBERS AND STAFF COMMENTS/REPORTS - Bob McCluskey said he attended a meeting concerning the minor (instructional) baseball league wanting to move to this area. The reason they want to move out of Arizona is because they cannot practice past noon there. They are looking at three sites in Larimer County. John Barnett said it is a good idea, but he feels there should not be any public money used to fund this. - Bob also attended a breakfast meeting with Mayor Susan Kirkpatrick and the Boards and Commissions. The Council is looking for ways to have more open communication between the Boards and Council. _ - Jackie Rael reported at the March 3 Council meeting under Citizen Participation at 6:30 p.m. a resolution acknowledging Bob Alexander's service on the Board will be presented.. Bob McCluskey will be present to say a few words about Mr. Alexander. The meeting was adjourned at 10:05 p.m. Meeting Attendance BOARD MEMBERS Bob McCluskey, Marilyn Barnes John Barnett K-Lynn Cameron Mary Ness Karen Schubert Roger Tarum Elery Wilmarth fully (submitted, He Rael, Admini STAFF Jr. Jerry P. Brown Tim Buchanan Jean Helburg Mike McDonnell Donna Visocky Janet Meisel Jackie Rael ve Aide II GUESTS Patrick Legel