HomeMy WebLinkAboutParks And Recreation Board - Minutes - 08/25/1999Call Meeting to Order: President Lance Freeman called the Regular Meeting to order at 5:55
P.m.
Agenda Review: Discussion on the Downtown Renovation has been pulled as the project has
been delayed until spring. Staff added "Proposed Baseball Stadium" (Mike Powers) after #12 on
the Agenda.
Items of Note: Jessica MacMillan called to say that she would be late this evening.
Approval of Minutes: The minutes of the June 23, 1999 meeting were unanimously (8-0)
approved on a motion by Dean Hoag, seconded by Paul Van Valkenburg.
Citizen Participation: Sally Craig, a member of the Planning and Zoning Board, spoke about
the Open Space initiative that will be on the ballot and she is hoping the Board will add it to their
agenda for next month and send a memo of support to the City Council. She hopes that the
Council will make an endorsement partly based on our letters of support from the City Boards.
Tim Johnson, Transportation Board, commended staff and the Board for adding the soft surface
for runners next to the hard surface trails. He further spoke of the Union Pacific's right-of-way
east of EPIC and supports wide trails. Tim suggested that staff request financial support from
CDOT. He supports the Bike Ranger position; suggested staff set a priority to map these right-
of-ways to the trails as alternative routes to schools for the kids. Lance addressed the Union
Pacific trail right-of-way and thinks Tim's input is very good and appreciates his comments.
Paul Van Valkenburg said that if the Transportation Board has suggestions such as these to
formally pass them by this Board.
Citizen Input: Paul Van Valkenburg distributed copies of a letter from John Bartholow regarding
Southwest Community Parkland. He would like us to take some fresh looks at this area for new
ideas. Jackie Rael advised the Board that Mike Powers responded to John's letter and will
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Downtown River Implementation Plan
City Planner Timothy Wilder made a presentation to the Board regarding the downtown river
implementation and its relation to the City Plan's vision for the downtown river corridor. Tim
said that he has been working on this project for the last 18 months with Mike Powers and other
staff members. Their vision is a balance of natural, recreational, cultural, and development for
the corridor. He explained that from North College Avenue to Mulberry Avenue there are 330
acres and 72 landowners. He presented the Board with a slide show that outlined potential
projects based on the feedback from the community.
After his presentation the Board had the following comments/questions:
• Ross Cunniff asked about the public support for this project? Timothy said major public
outreach has not yet occurred. The property owners have been uninvolved mostly at this
point.
• Paul Van Valkenburg asked about the Jefferson Street area and Buckingham Park. He said
there are businesses that have dumped their equipment and lumber in these areas. When we
do redevelopment, is clean up part of this? Timothy responded that regarding the
redevelopment we will not force it to happen as City Code defines opportunities. Paul
further stated that we need to use natural features to stabilize the banks. This will not happen
over night and we can do some planning now for the future.
• Del Price commented that the railroad property along Riverside would immensely increase
the image of Fort Collins if it were simply landscaped. He asked if we can we work with the
railroad to beautify this area? Timothy responded that we have to define the truck route and
we can't go further until that has been determined.
• Del further suggested that we make a better interface with the river and the downtown.
Having access for people along the river is very important in his opinion and he encouraged
Tim to keep that in mind.
• Ross said he was curious to see public input comments. He further spoke of the bank
stabilization. He recommends that the City be careful with what materials we will use to
stabilize and how we do it.
• Paul Hudnut said it seems to him that we are manicuring land along the river. There are
areas that will be attractive from the old town. As part of manicuring we should look at
kayaking course. This will attract users to the area. Lincoln and Mulberry work on
improvements for fishing and access points. Let's have a cutoff point to where we preserve.
Timothy said there aren't many spots along the river for retail development.
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• Paul Van Valkenburg said a retaining wall/levy should be constructed to protect Buckingham
neighborhood from flooding. He said it should be a high priority. Timothy said that it is a
project that we need to revisit because it is part of the floodplain review.
• Paul Hudnut said there has been talk about turning Link-N-Greens Golf Course into a hotel.
He wondered if staff was aware of this project? Timothy said he doesn't know the status of
that project.
• Lance asked Timothy what he is asking from the Board tonight? Timothy said comments
and recommendations. He then asked the Board if we should revisit this? He said we would
want to see the final proposal. Timothy said that if the Board wants to make comments, you
will need to make them by October since this will go to Council in November.
• Paul Hudnut asked if the bike trail rehabilitation is part of this project? Timothy said it is
not part of this plan. It will happen through the process of our work program.
• Del said looking at the boundaries, we, as a Board, are interested in beautifying the corner of
College and Chevy as a part of the enhancement program. Timothy said that the gateway
enhancement in the downtown area could fit into that idea.
As a Board, Lance said he would like to see what the public input is and discuss this at the
October meeting. He asked for a volunteer for the public meeting. Paul Hudnut and Rebecca
Chavez will attend the October 6 open house meeting. Prior to our October 27 meeting, Timothy
will get focus comments on the recreational areas and a copy of the final recommendation prior
to our October meeting. Jackie Rael will get details on the October 6 meeting for Rebecca and
Paul.
Community Horticulture Center Update
Jim Clark distributed updates on the project. Executive summary is that we have met with CSU
to work out some of the documents; memorandum of understanding; report to their state board;
and basically have agreed on the price. We are still working on boundaries of the site.
Orientation of the south boundary is still in negotiations. They will meet with the architect and
will reach some resolution and get back to us. The State Board of Agriculture will review this on
September 1. They will examine the land transfer and memorandum of understanding.
Secretarial Note: State Board has approved and directed Gerry Bomotti to complete the deal.
Marty Heffernan, along with our Legal Staff, has been working on the legal documents and City
staff sent those documents to CSURF. Our next step will be to put together a design team ---
landscape architect, and a consultant will be selected in October. Mid -March we will have
finished construction documents and master planning. Local horticulturists will design
flowerbeds and construction will hopefully start in June 2000.
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The College Avenue underpass will be constructed the summer of 2000. O&M budget for the
Horticulture Center has been given to the City Manager. Jim thanked the Board for their
continued support on this project.
Park Planning and Development Update on Projects
Craig Foreman gave the Board an update on the construction project as follows:
Case Park adjacent to Fort Collins High School and Cottonwood Glen Neighborhood Park at
Overland Trail and Drake will be completed in the spring. Ross asked if the erosion control at
Cottonwood Glen has been addressed? Craig said that we are going through the development
review process with this. Mary asked about the relationship with the neighbors at Case Park and
the path planned through the park. Craig said that we will be planning that path in the third
phase and we will monitor it and revisit with the neighbors at that time.
Miramont Park on Boardwalk is two-thirds completed and it will be open next year.
Spring Park east of College Avenue — We have funding to create a new restroom in this area and
the JC's will help in constructing the shelter. It will be completed next summer.
Fossil Creek Community Park — Construction will begin in 2001 and opening the park in 2003.
We will need one year to design and to get public input. Craig explained that this park was
supposed to be on line at a population rate of 100,000. We are behind schedule in accordance
with demographics in that area. Craig explained that we are planning on constructing the trail
from College to Lemay at the same time we are opening the park.
Center Avenue — Lance Freeman asked when are we going to construct the neighborhood park in
that area? Craig explained that we are working on this with Jim Clark in coordination with the
horticulture center.
Skateboard Park at Edora — Craig explained that we received a GOCO grant for this project.
Rebecca asked about the input from the kids? He said we are getting calls weekly from the kids.
We are going to do a design process where the kids give input. Paul Hudnut asked if there is
input from the junior high schools? Craig said that we will get input from that age group also.
GOCO Grant Application/Recreational improvements — Craig explained that staff is asking for
additional money for Sheldon Lake improvements since we didn't get full funding for that on the
first grant. Youth Corp will do the plantings. This will entail a retaining wall on the south side.
Mary asked if we have a place in Fort Collins where we could make a beach area? Craig said
probably the Fossil Creek Community Park.
Del Price complimented the Park Planning and Development staff on their work.
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Gateway Mountain Park Update
Marry Heffernan showed a preliminary plan for design uses of the park based on the input from
the committee. This is a reflection from Landscape Architect Jeff Lakey's interpretation from
that committee. He pointed out the boat access into the river and explained that the commercial
rafters would be allowed in this area. There will be shelter, restrooms, picnic areas, and design to
channel pedestrian traffic to the river. There will be horse access, but no motorized vehicles will
be allowed in the upper area to Seaman Reservoir. The existing water treatment plant may
become a museum/book store with main focus on water and the byway information and nature
interpretation. We could possibly put an amphitheater next to the museum. Parking will
terminate behind the museum.
Del Price said there are some areas of concern. He said this plan works functionally. He said we
may want to do some development in the area. He has concerns about the vegetation along the
river if we don't create a path. Marty said that we will be looking for more grant money to
develop this park. We have enough at this time to open the park. Rebecca asked about the ridge
trail connection? The Poudre Paddlers have given the committee their input and they want to be
able to come back up the river. Paul Hudnut asked about user fees for this area. Marty said that
the question is if we have the state or city manage this park. We need to talk to state parks and
get a more solid feel on what they want to do. The City Manager will then make the
determination. If the City maintains this we are looking at $150,000 annually for operation and
maintenance. Lance said we need to identify all the plans we can have with this park. We need
to identify all the potentials on the master plan so we have open variables. Marty said we will
develop a management plan from this. Ross Cunniff said he likes the development sites for the
day users and the remainder kept as natural areas.
Paul Van Valkenberg and Del Price have given a great deal of their time and input on this
project. Paul said that Del has been a good influence on the committee.
Paul Hudnut said that Marty mentioned no mountain biking. If a reservoir is constructed, would
there be a path to that area? Marty said that the reservoir would not be accessed through this
park. The access area to the reservoir would be from Red Feather. Paul further asked about rock
climbing? Will there be an areas for that recreational opportunity? Marty said that the rocks are
unstable for climbing.
Poudre River Natural Areas Plan
Marty Heffernan said there has been a long process regarding the completion of the management
plan for the Poudre River Natural Areas. Our staff had concerns about Martinez Park being
included in the area. Our suggestion to the Natural Resources staff is to take Martinez Park and
the Archery Range out of the plan and we will address those areas separately. Natural
Resources staff will soon have a plan ready for us to review and we will get a copy for the Parks
and Recreation Board's subcommittee to review and they will have their comments at the
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September meeting. We will work with the Natural Resources staff to come up with ideas on
how to work out a plan for Martinez Park. Our goal is to get the overall plan completed.
Secretarial Note: The Poudre River Management Plan will not be ready for our
subcommittee's review until October.
Election of Officers
Lance Freeman reminded the Board that at our September meeting, we will elect officers. Paul
Van Valkenburg asked Lance if he would be willing to serve as Chair one more year? Lance
replied that he would.
Baseball Stadium
Mike Powers said there is a proposal to bring a minor league baseball team to Northern
Colorado. The DDA is looking for areas in the downtown for possible stadium sites. The major
concern is financial. It will cost $5,000,000 and must come from private sources. Dean Hoag
asked what is the process for choosing Fort Collins. Mike replied that Fort Collins was one of
several cities selected in the region. Paul Hudnut asked why they can't use the CSU stadium?
Lance replied there isn't enough room for seating. Paul clarified that he meant the football
stadium. Lance said it is not configured for a baseball stadium.
Other Business
• Lance said that the second week of the month, he and Marty review the agenda. Lance asked
Board members to call him to add items to the agenda.
• Building Community Choices Projects/Joint Project with Poudre School District — Mike
Powers explained that the committee agreed to the projects as presented, but would like a
community outreach — mostly from the kids. The projects would include softball, baseball
fields, and roller hockey rink and skateboard park at Edora. The skateboard park will be a
joint financial funding from GOCO grant (we already have) along with $50,000 from BCC.
Dean asked who would have control over the fields at the schools? Marty replied that the
school district would have first priority. Ross said it would be good to see more joint
ventures with the school district.
• Dean asked what is the procedure for developing a schedule for Recreation fees? Mike said
that staff develops the fees and they are approved by the City Manager who includes them in
the overall budget. They are not presented to Council separately.
Mary said that we need to revisit this. He supports the Buckaroos and we need to support our
hometown teams. He said there were very few tournaments on the weekends because the
City is outpricing the sponsors. He feels that the City gives no incentive to people to use
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these fields for tournaments. He further stated that we don't need to alienate the Buckaroos.
Triple Crown is providing a service, which brings revenues to the city. Marty explained that
Council wants tournaments to pay their own way. Mary said are we doing nothing to
provide anyone over 55 the opportunity to play softball in the community. Staff replied that
we are looking into kids and parents teams. Dean said we need to take into consideration
the economic impact of the revenue to the community. Mary said we need to educate the
council and tell them there wasn't any drop -in play at Rolland Moore on the weekends. Mary
further said that the Parks and Recreation staff sets the fees for tournaments without input
from the tournament directors. Mary asked why the City employees can use the fields
without charge? Staff will put this discussion on Board's September Agenda.
Request to move the September 22 meeting to September 29.
Staff requested that the September 22 meeting is moved to September 29 as many staff members
will be attending the Colorado State Parks and Recreation Annual Conference the week of
September 20. The Board voted unanimously to move the September meeting to September 29.
Adjournment: The meeting was adjourned at 8:45 p.m.
submitt
ackie Rael, Executive Administrative Assistant
Meeting Attendance
Board Members: Rebecca Chavez, Ross Cunniff, Lance Freeman, Dean Hoag, Paul Hudnut,
Del Price, Mary Ness, and Paul Van Valkenburg
Staff. Tim Buchanan, Jim Clark, Craig Foreman, Marty Heffernan, Mike Powers, Jackie Rael,
and Timothy Wilder
Guests: Sally Craig, Timothy Johnson, and Randy Fischer