HomeMy WebLinkAboutParks And Recreation Board - Minutes - 09/27/2000Call Meeting to Order: President Lance Freeman called the Regular meeting to order at
5:40 p.m.
Agenda Review:
• Marty Heffernan requested that after Item 6, we add "Update on Impact of the September
Snowstorm" by City Forester Tim Buchanan.
• Budget Item -- Mike Powers was unable to attend tonight's meeting, and therefore Marty
will talk about this.
• Lance Freeman said that he would like the flexibility to hold the election of officers prior to
Paul Hudnut having to leave at 7:30.
Items of Note: Mike Gavin called to say he was at a meeting in Denver and would probably not
be able to attend tonight's meeting. Paul Van Valkenburg called to say he had Back to School
Night and would not be able to attend the meeting also.
Citizen Participation: No Citizen Participation.
Approval of Minutes: Jackie Rael said that Mike Gavin asked for the following correction to
the minutes of August 23. On Page 7, -second paragraph, ... "neighbors of Cottonwood Glen
Park" needs to be corrected to "neighbors of Southwest Community Park." On a motion by Dean
Hoag, seconded by Del Price, the minutes of August 23, 2000 were unanimously (7-0) approved
as amended.
SWAN
Bruce Henderson, a member of the South West Association of Neighbors (SWAN) made a
presentation to the Board on his group's design of Southwest Community Park. His group wants
to work with this Board when design begins. They looked at Pineridge open space and feel it is
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over used. They have spoken to the neighborhoods adjacent to Southwest Community Park
regarding their proposed plan.
The group has a landscape architect on their committee who drew some designs for the park.
Their concept is to keep active use in the front of the park and graduate to passive use as it gets
closer to Pineridge Open Space. Their ideas are to have the following features: Multi -purpose
trails that would include nature interpretation, bikes, fitness, jogging, walking, an exercise
course; kids playground; sledding hill; cross country skiing; community picnic areas/shelters; an
informal sports area; wheelchair accessible trail; Xeriscaping from community picnic area; water
feature; and overland trail historical path.
Bruce explained why this is important. The proximity to the open space lends itself to a natural
feel and the group doesn't want it overrun with people and dogs. Sensitive features in the park
such as Bells Twinpod, prairie dogs, skipper butterflies, red fox, and deer are some of the reasons
this group would like the park to be more passive. They are concerned about the transportation
infrastructure and are concerned about the concentration of traffic at one time. They feel their
plan could be much cheaper to maintain than a sports complex. They want something for all
people of all ages.
Jessica MacMillan asked about the design of the park and how they relate to the existing
facilities in the Cottonwood Glen Park? Mary Ness asked what their definition is of active
sports? Response: They are looking at more drop -in use and not organized sports. They don't
want to see floods of people in the park. Lance asked if there are any organized sports in this
park? Response: No. Jessica said there was a great deal of money spent on the land and there is
a need for a youth sports complex in this community. In our Parks and Recreation Plan we have
requirements for community parks and there has to be 40 percent active and 60 percent non -
active use in the park. Bruce said active use and organized used does not have to be compared.
He referred to Taft Hill project and how the City didn't follow their plan, but went with the needs
and wants of the neighborhood. Jessica said there is a need for organized sports in this park for
the community. She said that when the park was purchased the attractiveness of the park was
because of the natural area behind the park. Ross Cunniff asked Jessica what she means by
active and if she is thinking in the terms of Rolland Moore Park? She said no, it is not what she
is thinking. She explained it will have to have some active organized use to meet the needs of
the community, but not necessarily as heavily programmed as Rolland Moore.
Bruce asked how the City is forecasting the needs of the future? Marty Heffernan addressed
Bruce's question by stating that we haven't built a community park since Rolland Moore in 1984
and we have grown 40 percent since then. Construction of Fossil Creek Community Park will
begin next year on the southeast side of the City to begin to address our large deficiency in
community parks. We use the school demographics and census data and it is obvious that our
infrastructure is behind. Del Price said that we have soccer fields being constructed by I-25.
There are as many kids in the southwest neighborhoods that play baseball, soccer, and basketball.
He further stated that it is not fair to the kids within the four square mile of that area not to have a
community park. He said he has problems with the SWAN theory. Bruce's point is that
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parts of the City. Bruce said it is not a good financial decision to design a park with this much
formal sports when there are alternatives. Del says if the City doesn't build the organized sports
here, then they have to go elsewhere. Bruce argued the point that it should be an integrated
solution. Jessica said that if we don't put the community park in this location, then we have to
find another location.
Mary said that he was on the Choices 95 selection committee and he says it (Southwest
Community Park) was purchased as a youth sports complex. Marty said the ballot language and
Choices 95 voters information requires a youth sports complex to be included in the park.
Mary said that he likes the design, but if you construct fields as drop in they will eventually be
programmed. Ross said he sees Rolland Moore in this same area of the city and there is a
plethora of sports usage in that park and perhaps we could look at a more passive use for this
park. Dean Hoag said there is such a need for ballfields and soccer fields in our community that
this youth sports complex is needed. Paul Hudnut said that he likes the buffer zones and how we
could balance the use.
Marty concluded the discussion by thanking Bruce for his presentation. He said that right now
the projected timeframe for beginning construction of this park will be 2004. Our intent is to do
the public input and design in 2003, and hopefully have an approved plan in 2003, construct in
2004-2005, and open in 2006. Our typical process is to have open houses and have input from all
the community. We will look forward to their input at that time. Lance asked if their only
purpose is to lobby for this passive park. Bruce replied yes.
Canal Importation Plan
Susan Hayes spoke to the Board about the Canal Importation Plan and how it affects City Park.
She made a presentation to the Board at their April meeting. She explained that the major
drainage corridor is in the northern portion of the basin, located in the west central part of Fort
Collins and is subject to flooding. This master plan identifies projects to reduce flooding. She
explained that the City is developing a plan that will have no structural damage with storms.
The consultant has worked with the Parks and Golf staff to develop the best plan that will work
around our uses. We are trying to get as much water into Sheldon Lake as possible. We need to
dredge Sheldon Lake, take it down approximately 18 inches, and put the aeration system back
into the lake. There will be a submerged box culvert into the lake. We could enhance the
shoreline of the lake with this project. Another key component is there is a local drainage
problem in the ballfields, and the Stormwater Department will correct that during the project.
There was a question about the schedule. Susan replied that it has been pushed back because of
financing. We are looking at doing this as #11 on our list and is scheduled after 2005.
Ross asked if the funding is from Stormwater fees? Susan said, yes. Overland Park, Avery Park,
City Park, City Park Nine Golf Course will benefit from these Stormwater improvements. The
construction project will only affect City Park and City Park Nine Golf Course. She then asked
the Board for a recommendation to adopt the plan as it relates to the parks. Dean Hoag says the
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overall project is needed. He doesn't know how this affects other basins within the City. Susan
said Council will review the projects and address the basins in priority. They review the budget
each year and determine what projects are most imperative at the time. She said that Virgil and
Craig can attest that Parks and Recreation staff is up-to-date on all of our projects. Marry added
that Stormwater works well with our department. Ross asked if there is a plan for the shoreline.
Susan said that could be part of the master plan and it is a concern to restore it. Marty said that
Parks and Recreation has received a $100,000 grant to do improvements on Sheldon Lake.
Susan said that this project will not be detrimental to the improvements we have made to
Sheldon Lake. Susan said we are looking at lowering the water surface 18 inches to two feet and
whatever shoreline gets exposed it will be rehabbed. The project would do the rehab. When we
get to the final design we will work closely with staff. Jessica asked where do you take the
sludge? Susan said that is a good question and we are in the process of studying that and it
depends on what is in the sludge and if it is toxic or not. Marty asked when you lower the
surface will the dredging be greater than that so the lake capacity is increased? Susan said that
Stormwater will dredge out only the depth we need. Staff needs to think about the big picture.
Marty said his hope would be to bring the lake back to its original condition.
The aeration system might help the quality of the water extremely. Del said that we would have a
strong interest in the dredging plan. We don't want to lose any of the capacity we have now. We
want to end up with a viable lake without weeds growing up everywhere. Lance said we are
questioning if we are dredging sludge or the land below the sludge. Virg said that we have
hauled in several tons of rip rap to stabilize the banks. Del asked about the surface area of the
lake and what is our objective?
Ross Cunniff made the following motion: The Board is not endorsing the entire Canal
Importation Plan because the entire plan is beyond the scope of the Board's jurisdiction. The
Board is endorsing the portion of the plan that impacts City Park and Sheldon Lake on condition
that the implementation of the Plan is not detrimental to the condition or aesthetic quality of the
park or Sheldon Lake; that the water quality of the Lake is not negatively impacted and that the
cost of achieving these objectives is paid for by the Stormwater project. The motion was
seconded by Jessica MacMillan, and passed unanimously (7-0).
Update on Impact of the September Snow Storm on our Urban Forest
City Forester Tim Buchanan said that this was the 41' worst storm for tree breaking in the past 25
years. It is moderately severe, however, had a big impact on our department. Parks, Forestry,
and Cemetery people started clean up on Sunday. Estimate is that it will take 10 weeks to do the
corrective pruning at a cost of $100,000. Approximately 70 City trees will be removed and
replaced. Total City costs are approximately $400,000, including Streets Department and our
costs. The decision was made by City Manager John Fischbach that the City will not remove
private property tree limbs. Tim explained that this is not a devastating blow to our trees. We
have rented two more aerial trucks from Denver as there wasn't any breakage in the Denver area.
No one was hurt or killed by this storm. Jessica MacMillan asked where are the trees that have
to be taken down? Tim replied City Park area encountered the most damage.
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Election of Officers
Marry said we received a call from one Board member nominating Lance Freeman for President.
By unanimous vote the following officers were elected for the year 2000-2001: Lance Freeman,
President; Paul Van Valkenburg, Vice President; and Jessica MacMillan, Secretary.
Lance thinks that the Vice President should be interested in taking his position when he steps
down next year. Ross asked Lance how many hours a month he spends on Parks and Recreation
issues? He said approximately 15 to 20 hours a month.
Martinez Park Management Plan
Craig reviewed the Martinez Park Management Plan as designed by Park Planning and
Development Landscape Architect Alison Brady. Marty said that when we walked through the
park with this Board and the Natural Resources Board, we discussed the plan and issues. Craig
illustrated the plan showing the improvements in the park and the walkway from the Justice
Center through the park. The trailhead parking will be more functional to the ballfields and more
accessible to the downtown area. Plans are to expand non programmed areas for free play. One
of the areas to expand is the wet (low) area north of the ballfields into a free play area. They
identified two areas where the outfall comes through and staff would like to make it an ADA
accessible area to the water. He showed some examples of the paving through the park that have
a historical look. There was discussion regarding the trail through the park with the Natural
Resources Board members who were present for the tour. Marty added where the old tree dump
was we would want to make that an esthetically pleasing area. He said that moving the parking
was a good idea, but there would be no access to the river. Craig said that we could use the
access to the river from Legacy Park. Legacy will not be developed as a neighborhood park, but
rather an access to the river.
Lance said there aren't any immediate plans for these improvements. What he would like to do
is give the Martinez subcommittee (Dean Hoag, Del Price, and Lance Freeman) the plan and
bring it back to the Board with suggestions. The Natural Resources Advisory Board has a
subcommittee that is working on this park plan. Our subcommittee will look at this plan and
then present it to the NRAB. Mary asked that we incorporate Legacy Park into this plan. Marty
said we should do two separate plans and incorporate Legacy's access to the river. Dean would
like to incorporate Legacy Park into this plan. In the process they will present the plan to the
staff, bring this to the Board, and speak to the NRAB.
2001 Budget Process
Marty Heffernan said there were not many changes to the budget since we are in the second year
of the biennial budget cycle. We had asked for money for Gateway Park and the City Manager is
suggesting approval for $140,426 ongoing, and $81,850 for one-time; the round -about
maintenance, $30,000; use of Recreation reserves $386,000 one-time.
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Marty gave the Board the schedule of the budget discussions that Council will have between now
and the end of November. They are September 26, October 10, first reading on October 17 and
second reading and adoption on November 21. We did not get funding for a computer technical
person. We are trying to address that. The consultant's recommendation was that we have four
people to do the job our one computer person is performing.
Other Business
• Lance said that if we have another presentation like the one with SWAN, we need to set
some ground rules. This could have gotten into a debate. Jessica said they did a lot of work,
but didn't provide any solutions for the shortfall we have in ballfields and soccer fields for
the youth.
• Staff distributed a revision of the Board and Commission attendance policy.
• Work Plan for next year. Staff will prepare a meeting schedule and work plan for 2001 for
the Board's review at the October meeting.
Adjournment: The Board adjourned at 8:20 on a motion by Jessica MacMillan, seconded by
Dean Hoag.
Oe,ctfully submi ed,
Administrative Assistant
Meeting Attendance
Board Members: Ross Cunniff, Lance Freeman, Dean Hoag, Paul Hudnut, Jessica MacMillan,
Mary Ness, and Del Price
Staff: Alison Brady, Craig Foreman, Marty Heffernan, Jackie Rael, and Virgil Taylor
Guests: Randy Fischer, Bruce Henderson, and Bill Miller, SWAN, and Eric Bamburg