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Call Meeting to Order: President Lance Freeman called the Regular meeting to order at
5:35 p.m.
Agenda Review: Marty Heffernan added the following Agenda Items:
• Update on schedule of the Horticulture Center
• Trails Committee Report from Lance
Items of Note: Jessica MacMillan called to say she would not be able to attend tonight's
meeting.
Citizen Participation: No citizen participation
Approval of Minutes: On a motion by Del Price, seconded by Dean Hoag, the minutes of the
Regular meeting of December 6, 2000 were unanimously (7-0) approved.
Mary Carlson was introduced to the Board as our new Board Member. She served on the Parks
and Recreation Board from 1980 to 1984. She has been a citizen of Fort Collins for over 30
years. Her main interest is in open space management.
Youth Activity Center Replacement Committee Report
Ande Havenar began her presentation to the Board by introducing Ana Rocca, Jeremy Lees,
Samantha Pagni, and Christa Miller who are active members of the YAC Replacement
Committee. Ande said that for the past five years, the Recreation Division has offered activities
to the youth in our community at Old Fort Collins High School, known as the YAC. Her group
would like to assist the City in finding a replacement for the YAC. When the group met in
December, they decided they wanted to meet with the Parks and Recreation Board to present
their plans. The group wants to help the youth in our community have a place to recreate as they
have for the past five years at the YAC. Ande said the reason they have come to the Board is
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She reviewed the history of the YAC from 1993 as a directive from the City Council to respond
to increase gang activity. In 1995, the City leased a portion of Old Fort Collins High School for a
Youth Activity Center. The Recreation Division developed programs for ages 2-to 19-years-old
providing pre-school programs, youth programs, the summer basketball league, RAD van, and
summer youth employment. The YAC has been very successful and popular with the youth of
the community since then. The participation has exceeded expectations.
The group toured the Timberline Church and the Faith Evangelical Free Church as potential
sites for the YAC replacement. She explained how the group reviewed other youth activity
centers along the Front Range. The Task Force made a recommendation to the City Manager
and Council to pursue the purchase and renovation of Timberline Church to replace the YAC.
Brownie McGraw presented this to City Manager John Fischbach. Jean said the Timberline
Church would cost approximately $3,000,000 to purchase and the same to renovate.
Ande said that Loveland is building a youth center. They are using the YAC as a model since it
has been so successful in the past five years. If we build a new one it would cost approximately
$4,000,0000 plus land acquisition. Part of the YAC Replacement Committee's focus is to
dovetail on the School District's programs, however there isn't enough space after they run their
programs.
Paul Hudnut said that Doctor Yates spoke today at the Lincoln.Center and they have received
funding for renovation of Old Fort Collins High School. Paul further said that Doctor Yates said
that this would be open to the public for performing arts.
Ross Cunniff said he would abstain from making any comments because of his position on the
School Board.
Dean Hoag said that the YAC is providing beneficial programs to the youth and we have a
definite need in the community. Lance said that as a Board, we can write a letter to the Council
taking our stand on this. The YAC is on our 2001 Work Plan. We need to come up with a
position and send it to Council. Mike Gavin agreed with the other Board members that we need
the facility. He questioned which one of the facilities the staff and committee have looked at is a
better facility? Marty said that the Faith Evangelical Free Church would be our first choice and
it requires the least amount of renovation.
Lance said we need to talk to Council members. Jean said one thing the Task Force needs is
suggestions from this Board as to where they go from here. Bill Bertschy said that the next
Council Policy Agenda will be discussed in May. Timing is good if Council adopts replacement
of the YAC on the next Council Policy Agenda for the next two years. He expressed the funding
issue will be huge and asked if the committee developed any fund raising strategies? Ande said
they have discussed it, but they want a commitment from the City Council before they start the
fund raising. Bill said it will need some significant funding from the private sector. We have
funding for the land for the performing arts and library but have no funding for construction yet.
Everyone feels passionate about their capital projects. There is such a need for all of the capital
improvements in the city. Bill visited a youth activity center in Los Angeles and he said it was a
beautiful center, which was constructed through a partnership. The timing is good and if the
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Board has strong feelings, bring it forward to the Council in a study session. Communication
would be in order and then return after the elections in April.
What about partnering with Poudre School District? Ross said that in the bonding there was
some money for City/School District partnering along with CSU and County, but no program
earmarked. The funding would be approximately $1,000,000. Paul Hudnut asked if there could
be a funding smaller increments of money to purchase the church over time. Paul Van
Valkenburg said there are so many capital projects in the City are we even three years away from
this? Would there be a developer willing to build the building and the City rents or leases back?
Jean said we are looking at a both a long-range plan and a short-range plan. At this point we are
looking at what do we do in 2002 and what are we going to do long-term.
Marty added that the Old Fort Collins High worked so well because of the gymnasium. Del
Price said that in locating a replacement for the YAC, are we focusing on high -risk youth or the
youth in general? There are kids who need more help than others. Are these viable locations for
the youth in the community? He added that the Boys and Girls Club are building on the north
end of the city and we are working on the replacement for the Northside Aztlan Community
Center. We can't assume the low-income kids are at high risk, all the kids are at risk.
Dave Mosnik said that the Recreation staff works with agencies that network with at risk kids on
a daily basis and they utilize the YAC. Dave added that kids from all walks of life and at every
zip code in the city are represented at the YAC. Either of these sites (Timberline Church or the
Faith Evangelical Church) would work for the YAC replacement. Dave added that we have an
extensive preschool program. Those programs have tripled in the community since we centrally
located them. The little kids have their first experience at the YAC and when they become 12-14
they will come back to the YAC to participate. The YAC sees all age groups of kids and the
diversity of the kids economically and ethnically, attend activities at the YAC.
Lance said we need to communicate with Council to see if they are willing to look at this
scenario and determine if we should go forth with the YAC Committee. Lance said he would
visit with Council members individually if necessary. Jean said the group has been for the past
year wondering if they are spinning their wheels or is the Council interested in this project. And
where do we go from here? What is the Board's take?
Del asked what are we asking Council to do? Are we asking for the full funding? Lance said no
we are asking for Council's support in this or do we close the doors in 2002? If not, we go from
there and if so, we go forth. Jean said along with the lease, we need the O&M commitment
from the Council. Del said we need to give the Council some options such as the City provides
seed money and then list the various options.
Paul Hudnut said we need a resolution stating that this is a viable capital project. We need a
place for the youth. Bill Bertschy said he likes the idea of the resolution and the continuity of the
program and asking Council to look at the bigger picture. He encouraged the group and the
Board to take the next step. Council has been concerned. Ande asked Bill if the committee
should bring this question forward now or after the election? Bill said bring it forth now.
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Lance said we will work on drafting a statement and we can get it to the Board members at the
next month's meeting. We will brainstorm on best way to get this information to Council. We
could conclude our process next month. Paul Hudnut said we need to get this done sooner. Paul
Van Valkenburg said we need to endorse the concept and secondly we need to ask for direction
for funding. Do we find a place for now, do we find a place to rent for a long period of time?
We need it as an ongoing operation and maintenance. Bill said the Board needs to tell Council
what you want. State your preference as a Board. It will be up to Council to decide. Bill said
that it only takes three council members to bring forth a resolution.
Lance said we think this is a critical service to be provided to the community and every effort
should be made to fund this and look for a facility. Del added we have a very short time to
work on this. We have a committee in place and they are at a standstill. They are not going to
move until Council makes a commitment to this project.
Paul Hudnut made a motion that the Board direct Marry Heffernan and Lance Freeman to draft a
resolution that states the Board is in support of the replacement of the YAC; that we are
supportive of the work of the YAC Replacement Committee; that we need a temporary rental in
the meantime; and it is critical to continue this service to the community. A draft of the
resolution will be circulated to Board Members via e-mail and members will get back to staff
with comments. The motion was seconded by Dean Hoag, and the vote passed 7-0-1. Ross
Cunniff abstained.
Update on Trails Committee
Paul Hudnut and Lance Freeman updated the Board on the Trails Committee meeting held last
week. The purpose of the meeting was to focus on what was the iritent of the joint meeting with
the two boards. The subcommittee decided it would focus on new trails and provide input to the
staff to be proactive on balancing trails for recreational use as well as preserving the natural
resources in the community. Our next meeting is February 20. The members are Lance
Freeman, Paul Hudnut, Craig Foreman, Mark Sears, Linda Knowlton, Don Rodriguez, Randy
Fischer, and Kelly Ohlson. Paul added that 85 percent of the views we agreed on. We need to
balance the use of the trail system in the city and we will work through it.
Mary Carlson asked if there is a movement to not allow horses on the trails and open spaces?
Paul said there are different user groups and they all have their views of what and where
activities should be used. Bill agreed with Paul and said that there is a difference between open
space and natural areas and we need to manage the use. There are a lot of trail uses and not
really enough miles of trails in the community. The focus will stay on areas like PineRidge the
Poudre River corridor and Southwest Community Park. We want to get a vision on our whole
trail system. Marty said that trails are the best recreational amenity we offer in the community.
His vision is that we have the best trail system in the State.
Harmony Neighborhood Park
Final Design of Harmony Park was provided by Craig Foreman and Hetty Bixby. Craig
explained that the 10-acre park is adjacent to Trout Elementary and Preston Junior High. The
school district built about half of the irrigation pond. The RFP for construction will go out to bid
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next month and construction starting in the summer. Staff has worked with the school district on
the design of the park. Hetty said that between the school site and the park we have
approximately 15 acres and the site will be surrounded by houses. A berm has been designed to
buffer the existing housing. There are sidewalks through the park to Trout Elementary and
Preston Junior High schools. The core area has a shelter, playground, restroom, trees buffer the
ballfields and the play area. We are incorporating flower gardens at the entrance to the park.
The playground will have natural boulders and some trees in the play area. The edge of the
playground is a boulder edge set in concrete as seating areas and some flat to the ground. One of
the ideas coordinated early in the project with former Park Planner Janet Meisel was an area
where they could have teaching circles and it has been designed in the park in close proximity to
both of the schools. The boulders will act as seating for the teaching areas. Plantings of trees
will define areas in the park. City Forester Tim Buchanan has planed a variety of tree species in
this park.
Craig mentioned that there will be some new elements for the play area for older kids. Preston
has a large soccer field that is fenced in and we are working with the School District to have it as
an open field. Lance said that is a significant improvement over the original design. Del asked if
there are any trails around the lake. Hetty said no that there isn't much room around the lake.
There is a sidewalk along the lake. He asked if there is any passive recreation around the lake?
Craig pointed out the learning area is on one side of the pond. Del asked about the availability of
the ballfields? Craig said we will program through the summer. During the school year, the
School District will use them for practice fields. One of the ballfields is a Building Community
Choices project. We have an intergovernmental agreement that all the BCC fields that are on the
school grounds will be maintained by the school district and the users will pay for the prep of the
fields.
Lance thanked the staff for the redesign and said it is a dynamic plan
Gatewav Mountain Park
Craig illustrated the entrance to the park and the new road design. The contractor will begin next
week to start on Highway 14. We are working through the project and trying to get this done by
April 30. The road is relocated behind the houses. Staff is beginning to design the picnic
shelter, restrooms, and a launch site for boats. We're looking at the possibility of making the
restrooms fully operational. In conjunction with the opening of the park by June 15, we are
trying to have the first phase amenities in the park by that date. DOW is willing to stock a pond
for catch and release, kids fishing, and handicap access fishing. Marty said that the overall plan
is beyond our financial means and we are developing it by phases.
Bill Bertschy asked about the old access road? Craig responded that Greeley would still like to
use the road. The City will allow Greeley to use the old road, but they will have to maintain it.
Craig explained that staff is going to videotape the entire site and document it. We want to keep
it as the same quality it is now.
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Marty Carlson had a question on the road construction. She asked if the redesign is a safety
factor? Craig explained the center turn lanes have been designed for safety and we have worked
with CDOT on the design. They have approved all road construction.
Paul Hudnut asked about the access across the Poudre River. Marty said that it is a few years
away because of financial reasons and Utilities has asked that we don't develop it at this point.
There will be walking up to Seaman Reservoir.
City Park Management Plan
Marty said that we have been working on Martinez and Edora Park Management Plans and now
we are working on City Park Management Plan. We are asking the Board tonight for input and
we will put together a concept plan with Hetty Bixby's lead. Craig explained that we are zoning
the park. The first zone is the softball fields/baseball fields; second zone is the multi -use soccer
and organized sports use; non -programmed use is another zone where there is irrigated turf not
programmed. In a general sense we captured all the areas in the park into zones. He referred to
the core area. There are no sidewalks leading to the train, picnic shelter area, and pool. The
tennis courts are in good shape. The special feature zone is the pottery studio, city park center,
and pool. Lance said that he would like to eliminate most of the roads in the park and create
alternative parking on the fringes of the park.
Bill Bertschy asked if the Housing Authority is in the park? Craig said they are on the north
edge of the park. Craig said we need a theme in the park and would like to rehab it with the
same moss rock that is already in the entrances to the park. Paul Hudnut asked where will we get
the funding for this park renovation? Craig said funding could come from the Community
Parkland. Del said that the plans are important to have in place whether there is funding at the
time or not.
Marry asked if the Board thinks staff is going in the right direction? The Board agreed that this
park does need some updated amenities, that the improvements are needed and applaud the
neighborhood involvement.
2000 Annual Parks and Recreation Board Report
Marty said that this is a synopsis of the Board's discussions and accomplishments as noted in the
minutes of those meetings. On a motion by Mike Gavin, seconded by Paul Hudnut, the Board
voted unanimously (8-0) to accept the 2000 Annual Parks and Recreation Board Report as
presented.
Other Business
• Horticulture Center -- Marty updated the Board on the project. Staff determined relocating
the Sherwood Lateral would have to wait until September. Although this delays the project
somewhat, we decided we couldn't get the project done before mid -April as the Ditch
Company required. This means that we will have to start that project in September. It will
move the Horticulture's opening to spring 2002. The upside is that we will have more of a
control on costs. The ditch project will be done at the same time as the rest of the project.
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Mike Gavin asked if the change would affect the cost of the project? Marty said no it won't.
Bill added that the gardens at Old Fort Collins High will be built this summer.
Management Change in Park Maintenance -- Marty said that Bob Loeven will be Manager of
Park Maintenance and Virgil Taylor will oversee cemeteries, Gateway Park, and work on
special projects.
Bill said that the Board's work plans go directly to the Council Liaison and that will have a
couple of suggestions that will be sent to the Board and Staff Liaison. His suggestion is that
the Board needs a statement as to how projects being considered fit the role and
responsibilities of this Board. The work plans will be distributed to the Council and will be
part of the Council's Policy Agenda. Lance asked Bill if it would be better if he came to our
meeting when we are developing the work plan. Bill said that isn't necessary.
Mike Gavin complimented the Recreation staff during the Winter/Spring class registration.
He said customers were processed quickly and wants to send his compliments to the staff for
their efficiency.
CSU Rodeo Grounds -- Paul Hudnut asked about the plans for this area. Marty said the
infrastructure development was too costly and that CSU didn't have any funding to offer.
Lance thanked Bill Bertschy for coming to our meeting.
Adjournment: On a motion by Mary Carlson, the Board adjourned at 8:25 p.m.
4pectfully submi d,
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(/ Executive Administrative Assistant
Meeting Attendance
Board Members: Mary Carlson, Ross Cunniff, Lance Freeman, Mike Gavin, Dean Hoag, Paul
Hudnut, Del Price, and Paul Van Valkenburg
Staff: Hetty Bixby, Peggy Bowers, Craig Foreman, Marty Heffernan, Jean Helburg, Dave
Mosnik, and Jackie Rael