HomeMy WebLinkAboutParks And Recreation Board - Minutes - 02/28/2001Call Meeting to Order: President Lance Freeman called the Regular meeting to order at
5:35 p.m.
Agenda Review: No changes to the printed agenda.
Items of Note: Board Members Paul Hudnut and Mary Carlson called to say they would not be
able to attend tonight's meeting.
Citizen Participation: No citizen Participation
Approval of Minutes: Ross Cunniff said he had a correction to the minutes of the meeting of
January 24, 2001 referring to Page 2 ... Ross Cunniff abstained because of his membership at the
Timberline Church... On a motion by Mike Gavin, seconded by Dean Hoag, the minutes of the
January 24, 2001 meeting were unanimously approved after the correction was noted.
Horticulture Center Update
Tim Buchanan and Jim Clark gave the Board an update on the Horticulture Center project. Tim
reviewed the schedule of construction that will start in September. Ground breaking will be
Thursday, March 22, at 1:00. Jim said that the construction will start in the fall with opening in
the summer of 2002. After the opening, private fundraising will begin for additional gardens.
He spoke about the budget stating that one benefit was the land trade with CSU. We have been
able to use some of our operation and maintenance costs for design. There have been additional
costs because the project is in a flood plain. We are moving the ditch and putting 250 feet of it in
a box culvert. We are finalizing the cost estimates and will give the Board that budget at next
month's meeting. Jim said that the building will be the highest priority in the first phase.
There will be a significant need for private fundraising. Jim stated staff has organized a Friends
Group. The purpose of this group is to provide a community connection and to advocate for and
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support role. The Parks and Recreation Board thought this Horticulture Friends group will be a
good advocate for the Horticulture Center.
Name of the Facility -- Jim explained that we have been calling it the Community Horticulture
Center. Staff decided that if we are going to change the name now is the time to do it. A
common name with other horticulture centers has the word "garden" in it. Spring Creek
Gardens is one of the names we have thought of. We will suggest this to the public for input.
Jessica MacMillan asked if someone would make a huge donation, would we name it after them?
Jim said that is a possibility, and we are thinking of naming gardens after donors, also. Paul Van
Valkenburg said that the people who have worked on this for the past 14 years should make the
recommendations on the name. Paul Van Valkenburg asked if the membership would include
every event that is offered or will it be limited. Jim replied that our main focus on offering
memberships is to encourage people to become involved in the Horticulture Center.
Northern Colorado Sports Alliance
Amy Snider, Dave King, and Tami Agne-Moehur representing sports in Northern Colorado,
spoke to the Board about their alliance. Amy said their focus is to provide a collective voice for
the recreation community. They explained that their purpose is to help address the needs of the
recreation community in Fort Collins. Jessica asked how they became organized? Amy said that
she began with the contacts of the user groups through Parks and Recreation and the School
District. They had their first meeting in November. Dave said that they felt as a group they have
done little to participate in City government as they were only interested in their own issues. The
group felt they weren't represented as a community.
Dave said that they will be there for the planning of recreational facilities in the community. The
facilities they are sharing are very hard to access and need upgrading and more construction. As
a group, they are advocates of passive and organized sports in our community.
Jessica noted there isn't anyone representing ice skating and tennis. She added that we know
that our facilities are not adequate. Our Park Planning Division does an excellent job with the
funding that is allocated. A significant issue we have is that there are so many hours in a day and
neighborhood surrounding these parks. Dave King said that there are occasions where groups
would speak out against a project and they weren't there to support it, but they will be in the
future.
Tami Agne-Moehur said that they will be an advocate and as a group will support the
recreational needs for the community. Jessica said that it is important for this group to be
involved in government issues and what Council can do with the allotted funding. David King
said that this group is here to apologize for not being in the forefront representing the
recreational needs of the community. He added that there are 15,000 families in the community
that are willing to champion the recreational causes in Fort Collins and will be the recreational
voice.
Paul Van Valkenburg said that the public could bring projects to the elections as a community
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support. The Board thanked the group for coming to voice their support for recreation in our
community.
Gateway Park
Craig Foreman reported that the road construction will start next week. He explained that we've
had some problems with retaining walls. He introduced Jeff Lakey, who is our Project Manager
on Gateway Park. Jeff explained that the plan is to begin the park improvements in April and
open the park in July. Funding from the Scenic Byway grant for $180,000 will be implemented
next month. Jeff refreshed the Board's memory on the preliminary designs and how some of the
details will look. He showed the zones of the park. The plan shows the river access and picnic
facilities. There will be a fishing pond for the kids in a later phase.
The first house will be used as a residence for the Park Ranger, the second houses will be used
for an office for the Ranger, and the last house will be demolished. Jeff showed drawings of
some of the old water equipment that will be on display with interpretations. The first phase will
include two picnic shelters, information kiosks, restore the stone walls, entry gate, and restrooms.
Jessica asked if the park would be closed in the winter time? Craig said it would be open. Mike
Gavin said it would be a great winter hiking area and we don't have to maintain it as we do in the
summer. Mike asked who would maintain the road? Craig replied that we would.
Ross asked about the number of busses that will be allowed? Craig said that the Forest Service
has a control as to the number of people that the rafters can put on the river at one time. Del
asked if we are going to charge people to enter the park before/after their rafting? Craig said yes,
they will be on site causing some impact to the park. Lance said we need to be cognizant of the
amount of busses in and out of there. Craig said we are going to monitor that. Mike Gavin said
that there will be private citizens bringing trailers up there and using some part of the park. Jean
asked how a person gets from the shelter to the river in a wheelchair. Jeff said that some areas
will be ADA accessible and there are some areas where accessibility will be a problem. Jessica
asked if there are dogs allowed in the park? Reply: Yes, on leash.
Funding: Craig explained that the funding we have allocated will do the improvements we have
shown tonight. Phase II will be behind the treatment plant, and Phase III will be more
complicated reshaping the terrain and is estimated to cost $300,000. We will evaluate Phase II
and III after we have opened the park and have input from the users. Del asked if we are going to
provide for overflow parking? Craig replied that there will be areas for some overflow.
Youth Activity Center
Mike Powers and Jean Helburg updated the Board on the YAC. There are other sites that staff
has been looking at and evaluating. The committee met last week and had a good discussion
with the Mayor and are waiting to see what the Council decides. Jean said the committee was
pleased that this Board took some action with their memo to Council. Del said that the Mayor is
supportive of this. Lance said he will talk to Bill Bertschy regarding our resolution.
Mike Gavin said that it is a youth issue and a public safety issue. It is a support to the primary
line. He suggested that the Board Members attend the forums and talk to the Council candidates.
Jean said that the Youth Committee is planning on attending these meetings. They should be
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asking these candidates if they are going to support the replacement of the Youth Activity
Center. Staff will mail the Forum schedule to the Board.
Ross asked about the timing of the eviction? Jean said we have a letter from CSU stating that
December 31, 2001 will be our last day in the building. For scheduling purposes, we need to
know by the first of September if we are in or out. The CSU staff is very supportive of us, but
they have to move forth.
Trails
Lance distributed copies of the minutes of the subcommittee meeting. Paul Hudnut's idea of
structuring trails as Level 1 -- main trails, level 2 trails -- the foothills trails and Coyote Ridge,
Level 3 -- interpretive trails that take you to some destination as a passive trail with interpretation
along the way. It has been a positive group and informative to all. Issues: accelerated funding
for some of the trails in the future and Southwest Community Park. Jessica asked about closing
some of the "social trails" to re-establish the natural area. Lance and Craig agreed that there is a
need for that.
Twice the Ice
Mike Powers said that this second sheet of ice will probably be done sooner than expected. The
community needed to raise $900,000 and they are close to that with some in -kind commitments.
Assuming that we are trying to construct it sooner than 2003, we could design this year, and
break ground winter of 2002. It would take 9-12 months to construct. Lance asked about the
size of that rink? He recalls it as a studio rink, which would be a regulation -sized rink, but not a
large arena. It was originally priced at $3,500,000 in 1996 dollars. Staff is meeting on March 8
to determine what a full size sheet of ice would cost. In the original plans, we had hockey
change rooms, 200 seating and the rink. We are pricing it out in phases. Jean said that when we
did the original plans for EPIC, we had plans for a "studio" rink. Lance said we need to stay
with the original plans for financial reasons. Initially, we need to just have the rink. Jessica
asked that if we build it, can we include a full-sized arena? Jean said there isn't enough land to
do that. Ross said we need to be careful to not go beyond the ballot language. Jean said
absolutely we will stay within the ballot language.
Year 2002-2003 Budget
City Manager John Fischbach has asked for the Board's input on the budget. This will be due to
the Budget Office on April 30. The Board talked about issues we need to discuss. The Board
agreed that the Board and staff would introduce their lists next month and approve it the
following month.
2001 Work Plan (Revised)
Jackie Rael explained the changes on the 2001 Work Plan as suggested by Councilman Bill
Bertschy. We added the Board's purpose and function in the beginning and added more detail on
the Board's involvement on each of the projects. On a motion by Jessica MacMillan, seconded
by Del Price, the Board voted unanimously to accept the revised 2001 Work Plan.
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Other Business
Jessica MacMillan spoke about the lack of indoor tennis centers in Fort Collins. The
community only has four indoor private tennis courts. She would like to research how much
it would cost to bubble over five of our outdoor courts. She feels that is an aspect of
recreation that we need to provide for winter -time players. Lance reported that CSU did a
cost estimate to bubble some of the courts by the recreation center. Lance said it was very
expensive. Mike Gavin said he would like to know how much it costs and what percentage
of people in the community would use it.
Dean Hoag said someone asked him about swimming laps after work? This citizen feels that
there are no facilities for the after work hours to swim laps. Who does he need to contact?
Jean said that we could get him a schedule of lap swim. We also have swim teams at that
time. Jean said she would be happy to speak to this person.
• Jackie Rael reported that the YAC staff would like to host next month's Parks and Recreation
Board meeting. The Board agreed that would be fine.
NOTE: THE MARCH 28 MEETING WILL BE HELD AT 281 NORTH
COLLEGE DUE TO THE TOUR OF NORTHSIDE SKATE PARK
IMPROVEMENTS.
Adjournment at 8:30 p.m.
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Rael, Executive Administrative Assistant
Meeting Attendance
Board Members: Ross Cunniff, Lance Freeman, Mike Gavin, Dean Hoag, Jessica MacMillan,
Del Price, and Paul Van Valkenburg
Staff: Tim Buchanan, Jim Clark, Craig Foreman, Jean Helburg, Jeff Lakey, Mike Powers, and
Jackie Rael