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HomeMy WebLinkAboutGolf Board - Minutes - 04/20/1983r 0 CITY OF FORT COLLINS PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT GOLF ADVISORY BOARD MINUTES: Regular Meeting - April 20, 1983 The meeting was called to order at 7:30 P.M. by Chairman Tom Skillman. Board member, Bill Basow, is absent due to a work conflict, so Alternate member, Dick Zubradt, was given voting status. Bill Zech was appointed Acting Board Secretary for this meeting, replacing Bill Basow. There were no Agenda changes during Agenda Review, and no one spoke during Citizen Participation. The minutes of the last regular meeting of February 16, 1983, were approved unanimously as submitted, on a motion by Carl Kansala, seconded by Jim Mitchell. 1982 Golf Division Annual Report Board members previously reviewed this 34 page document prior to the meeting. There were several questions regarding the financial statements, and under what circumstances Reserves can be used? Jerry P. Brown stated that as of today, we have approximately $80,000 available in the Surcharge Reserve Account, which can be used for as golf purpose, as appropriated separately (not part of the annual budget process) by City Council. Jerry also said that after several Capital expenses this year, and after paying the proposed salary increases through the 1983 Revised Pay Plan, that basi�����calll,� speaking, the Golf Fund would have around $60,000 available in unappropriated Expenditure Reserves. Staff felt that some amount of Reserves between $40,000 to $80,000 was appropriate, as a 'hedge' against Mother Nature and 'emergencies'. Because of the large 1982 'carry-over', we may be able to keep 1984 fee increases to a minimum level (if we continue to have a good 1983). -- The Board unanimously accepted the Annual Report, complimenting staff on the excellent job in pre- paring it. Open Forum Discussion Chairman Skillman requested a 'Round Table' type discussion period concerning any golf issues Board members or staff would like to bring up. These random comments, thoughts, questions, etc. are as follows: - John Drescher asked why parks and swimming pools don't pay for themselves, and golf does? Golf has to pay back its construction debt, with interest, and no other leisure or quality of life service apparently does? Why? - Carl Kansala asked about Combination Annual Passes vs green fee sales. Will we have more money in the Fund this year because of the large pass increases? Jerry P. Brown speculated we would, but it is way to early to tell. 0 - Neil Johnson reported that South Ridge Golf Course is about 25% ahead of construction schedule. Bucain is now putting water in for the adjacent housing. He said the owners are concerned about doing a good job, and they are doing a good job. They may be able to 'seed' in August, and try to open by June, 1984. - Neil said Collindale came out of the winter in top shape. - Tom Skillman asked staff about the new 'soft' golf spike shoes. All generally agreed that they are not good for greens, causing rough putting conditions when following someone wearing them. We will monitor the situation. - Jim Greer has had complaints on slow play. It's still just a matter of education. - John Drescher asked the Pros about people using the putting greens for chipping. We have signs there asking people not to, but they still do it anyway. - Eileen Banks asked about what programs we had for Junior Golf? Jim Greer said Robin Stroup at City Park Nine sponsors Junior Golf lessons and a Junior Golf Clinic in conjunction the the City Recreation Division. Bill Metier and Dave McCoy at Collindale both give lessons, and Bill sponsors the Colorado Youth Clinic. The City has lessons, tee times, and allows Poudre R-1 Junior and Senior High Schools time on the courses. Robin Stroup sought donations, and from these, and last year's fees, she purchased Junior size clubs to be used this year. Jerry P. Brown stated that he wasn't sure the Golf Fund needed to be in the 'Junior Golf Business'; that maybe this is where private enterprise or the Country Club could do their civic thing? A true Junior Golf Program would cost us substantial dollars, and are we willing to "absorb" this cost? This is a policy question Board members seriously need to think about. - Jim Mitchell asked about Senior Citizen complaints. As of the meeting, we had received 45 complaints by letter, telephone, office visits, etc. on 1983 Senior Annual Pass fees. Staff has answered every letter and phone call concerning Senior rates. Most Seniors accept what we say, but don't agree with it. - Dick Zubradt asked about future Capital expenses, and will the Golf Fund get any benefit from Lottery money? Board members agreed that we need to have a plan on what Capital equipment we need to buy, and we should let City Council know we think that Golf should receive a fair share of Lottery money. The Board unanimously voted that Lottery money should be made available to Golf to purchase our next large piece of Capital equipment in 1984. Staff said we will need to buy a new F-10, 7-gang mower, for City Park Nine, at a cost of around $26,000. Board members felt that since the City sent golfers letters to support passage of the Lottery, that buying the mower was a proper gesture by the City. Other Business Board members received and filed the Golf Division Quarterly Report for January to March, 1983. -2- 7 C1 - Jerry showed samples of carpet, and asked for Board advice about replacing some or all of the carpet at the City Park Nine Clubhouse, Pro Shop and ladies' restroom. Jim Mitchell thinks the Pro Shop and ladies' room should be done (around 116 sq. yds.), but that the Clubhouse carpet is stilt in good enough shape. Board members agreed. Jim Mitchell then made a motion, seconded by Eileen Banks, to request staff to look into prices and problems in carpeting the City Park Nine Pro Shop and ladies' restroom. Passed unanimously. Staff estimates the cost at between $2,800 and $3,500. - Staff requested Board advice regarding Collindale Snack Bar area improvements. Every year we have a problem with the sliding wooden door that separates the Snack Bar from the Clubhouse. Staff has in- vestigated possibly closing off the Snack Bar area with a permanent wall/door for maintenance and security purposes, as well as aesthetically improve the atmosphere of the Snack Bar. Potentially make it a "Pub" type setting. No electrical or plumbing changes are needed. Tom Skillman thinks it could be a good idea, and the Board encouraged staff to continue to investigate. - Jerry reviewed all the letters and correspondence with Board members, including the letters to the three Golf Associations, the six Senior Citizens, and the C.S.U. Women's Golf Team. Jerry also informed the Board that the C.S.U. Men's Golf Team was not buying Annual Passes this year. They are playing at the Country Club, instead. *** The meeting place and time of the May 18th meeting is changed. Meet at the SouthRidge Golf Course parking lot on South Lemay, directly across from Portner Reservoir, at 5:30 P.M. sharp. The Bucain Corporation will provide a tour of their site and answer all construction and technical questions associated with their course. At approximately 7:00 P.M., we will then all drive to Applegates Landing Restaurant, and reconvene our meeting at 7:15 P.M., or so. The City will buy dinners for all Board members and appropriate staff (alcoholic drinks not included). The Bucain Golf Course Architect, and staff, will further explain their plans. A short business meeting will also be conducted. *** The meeting was adjourned at 9:19 P.M. MEETING ATTENDANCE Board Members Tom Skillman Eileen Banks Bill Zech John Drescher Jim Mitchell Carl Kansala Dick Zubradt Staff Jerry P. Brown Dave Sadler Neil Johnson Jim Greer Bill Metier Respectfully submitted, BILL ZECH, Acting Board Secretary -3-