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HomeMy WebLinkAboutGolf Board - Minutes - 03/20/1985• 0 CITY OF FORT COLLINS PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT GOLF BOARD MINUTES: Regular Meeting - March 20, 1985 The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. sharp by President Eileen Banks. All board members and the alternate were present. Agenda Review: No change to the printed agenda. Citizen Participation: Jeff Boulter, President of the Collindale Men's Association, announced that his group is close to submitting plans to the City for their major project, which is the patio cover to the Collindale Clubhouse. Jeff also said that he is working with Snack Bar Concessionaire Derek Cordova on the tile sealing project. Minutes: The minutes of the regular meeting of February 20, 1985, were approved unanimously, as submitted, on a motion by John Drescher, seconded by Dan Preble. Junior Golf Committee Report Al Cavallaro reported that the Collindale Men's Golf Association, in conjunction with Taco Bell, Gojo Sports of Fort Collins, and Elks Lodge #804, will co-sponsor an advanced/competitive junior golf program this summer. The program will compliment, and is an extension of our regular junior golf program, which is run by the two golf professionals. The eventual winner of the various tournaments will receive a $200 scholarship to the Colorado PGA Junior Academy. All prizes will be furnished by the sponsors with no City or Golf money involved. Players will pay full fees as for any other tournament. Play will be at City Park Nine, Collindale, and SouthRidge. The CMGA will sell bag tags as a fund raiser. Dan Preble then reported on the Poudre R-1 Junior High School involvement, and their program plans. Bill Metier will hold various free clinics, as well. Lemay/Horsetooth Construction Project H. R. Phillips briefly outlined the scope of the project and introduced Project Manager Mark Sears. He further explained the project, and introduced the consultant, Steve Blue of ARIX of Greeley. Steve provided all the detailed information. The Golf Board was most concerned about four elements of the project as follows: 1. Adjacent to Lemay; 2. Adjacent to Horsetooth; 3. the closeness to #8 tee box; and 4. Water flow to the golf course during the project. 0 • Golf Board Minutes March 20, 1985 Page Two Dr. Basow was called away from the meeting for an emergency, so alternate member Al Cavallaro was granted voting status. Board members were extremely concerned about the potential liability problems associated with a proposed sidewalk on the east side of Lemay, adjacent to the maintenance buildings/yard and the driving range. It seems obvious that children will enter the course to take golf balls, as well as use the course as a short cut. A sidewalk "invites" children, even though it was agreed that people would probably walk on the course side with or without a sidewalk. The liability question remains. Board members suggested a fence from near #8 tee box north to the driving range tee box, most likely directly behind (east) the line of Russian olive tPees. Dick Zubradt stated that Poudre R-1 will be building a new school south of Collindale, so children should not be walking to Shepardson School in the near future. Steve Blue said there will be no interruption of water flow to the course during construction. If the project ends up including Horsetooth east to the railroad tracks (if funding is available), no sidewalk is planned for the golf course side. Each board member expressed their opinions. After further discussion, the board, on a motion by Tom Skillman, seconded by Al Cavallaro, voted unanimously 7:0 that the project should not include sidewalks adjacent to golf course property. Board members stated, for the record, that it should be fully understood that the Golf Fund will not pay for any fencing that is not included in the project; if at a later date it is determined that fencing is needed because of liability problems. Both Bill Metier and Neil Johnson will attend the project public meeting on March 21 to represent the interests of the golf course. Update on Beer and Wine Potential Sales Several meetings ago, board members requested staff to check into the possibility of securing a beer and wine license for the courses. Jerry P. Brown reported that he has discussed the mater with the City Clerk's office, and that it appears to be a very difficult process if we wanted to expand from our current 3.2 beer licenses. Among potential problems: any license more than a 3.2 needs state approval; both City Council and the Fort Collins Liquor Licensing authority would probably have concerns; facility remodeling to accommodate two separate alcohol servicing stations; question about course fencing if liquor is served; unknown impact of impending law change in legal drinking age for 3.2 beer. Some board members also expressed concern about the impact of Golf Board Minutes March 20, 1985 Page Three SouthRidge taking away some potential revenues. After further discussion, it was agreed to take a wait -and -see attitude, and seek no immediate changes. Structure of Fees President Banks suggested that it is time again for the board to annually examine its fee structure policy, and to consider the possibility of potentially eliminating annual passes. Jerry stated that he fully believes that if we eliminate annual passes that the cost of green fees could go down for everyone, and that we could offer further discounts to special groups, such as juniors and seniors. However, the financial condition of the Golf Fund is healthy, and golfers seem fairly content with the existing fee structure. Jerry said he projects 1986 fees will be increased five percent for inflation ($5.50 for 9; $9.00 for $18; $280 for adult pass; $210 senior pass, etc.) He said the Parks and Recreation Department is not pushing for the elimination of annual passes at this time, even though he believes it is a future goal for 1987, 1988, 1989 or so. There was much discussion. It was noted that there are several new courses planned to be constructed in the Fort Collins area (Boyd Lake, Del Webb, etc.) so if those courses become realities, we then will have to give serious consideration to our structure. Jerry said if board members want a change, then we definitely will want to hold several public meetings on the topic. Eileen said she felt the problem will probably take care of itself as fees rise and business decisions must be made, and Tom Skillman suggested if the current system isn't broken, we shouldn't try to fix it. Board members unanimously concurred to continue with the existing fee structure for 1986. Other Business - Jerry said the Traffic Department has informed him that they will paint the stripes in the Collindale Parking Lot the week of April 8. - Jerry received a call from Collindale Women's Golf Association President Nan Rubin, in response to our letter suggesting a Clubhouse project for their organization. Nan stated that the CWGA treasury is at "rock bottom" and they cannot do a Collindale project this year. - John Drescher again inquired about the possibility of publishing a golf financial report. Jerry again said he is concerned about the complicated nature of the data, and there is no easy way to simplify the information. He said board members are supposed to represent the interest of the golfer and that our meetings are open to the public Golf Board Minutes March 20, 1985 Page Four and our files are available should people desire explanations. Jerry will look at the possibility of an annual report -type format, or perhaps posting the revenues/expenditure summaries monthly at the courses. - Board members expressed an interest in receiving a SouthRidge update. Jerry briefly responded, telling them that staff is monitoring the situation. SouthRidge is projecting 42,000 rounds in 1985. - February financial/statistical reports were distributed. Jerry noted the revised 1985 revenue projections. The meeting was adjourned at 9:38 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Dan Preble, Board Secretary Meeting Attendance Board Members Staff Guests Eileen Banks H. R. Phillips Henry Fry Dick Zubradt Jerry P. Brown Mark Sears Dan Preble Bill Metier Steve Blue Bill Basow Jim Greer Jeff Boulter John Drescher Rick Frye Tom Skillman Bill Zech Al Cavallaro (Alternate)