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GOLF BOARD
MINUTES: Regular Meeting of June 20, 1990
The meeting, held at the new Parks and Recreation offices at 281 North College
Avenue, was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by President Roger Sample. Members
Cathy Fromme and Terry Gilmore both called to say they could not attend the
meeting. Alternate member Al Bednarz was granted participation and voting
status.
Agenda Review: No changes to the printed agenda.
Minutes: The minutes of the regular meeting of May 16, 1990, were approved
unanomously, as submitted, on a motion by Iry Wilson, seconded by Dick Zubradt.
Citizen Participation:
Dick Smith indicated he had some questions about SouthRidge (the next
agenda item).
Henry Fry asked about the status of the telephone computerized tee time
reservations system. Jerry P. Brown responded that staff is not proceeding
at this time and is evaluating what other cities do first.
Jerry introduced Alyce Nierman, the new Golf Division Secretary (replacing Pat
Windmuller) to the Board. Alyce indicated she is interested in taking minutes
of Board meetings.
SouthRidge Issues/Fees
Jerry reinterated the Golf Board position regarding Collindale and City Park Nine
fees not paying the debt at SouthRidge. Council has not yet formally responded.
Jerry then introduced Mike Powers. Mike indicated that some Council members are
still wondering whether the SouthRidge solution should involve some changes to
the rate and fee structure in that all golfers benefit from SouthRidge on the
whole and as a result should be part of the solutions. The second issue is
really what should be done with SouthRidge? The three options identified by
Staff are: 1.) Totally operate the course ourselves, 2.) Continue to operate
the course with private contracted management, 3.) Sell SouthRidge. City
Council will discuss SouthRidge at their July 10 worksession, with the fee
structure as the primary issue being addressed.
Al Bednarz asked about the ramification of a sale? Mike said a sale can be
analyzed in several different ways. The true breakeven point would require about
E5 million to cover the debt payments and our previously invested costs. The
low end of the range is roughly $3.1 million just to pay all the existing debt.
There are other options in between.
Citizen Dick Smith thinks that it is important to taxpayers that the roughly $2
million sunk into SouthRidge should be recovered. He then asked why would
SouthRidge be run differently, and he thinks that the City's mission and purpose
for recreation programs and golf in particular in Fort Collins don't match.
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June 20, 1990
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Roger Sample asked Mike how Council views the options for SouthRidge? Mike
indicated feelings are split. Some members would like to see the City operate
the course and others think we should at least find out what the market value
of a sale might be. Jerry has looked at projections of revenues and expenses
in the event the City takes over the SouthRidge operations, and Roger suggested
this information should be available, if possible, for the July 10 worksession.
Mike and Jerry will work on it.
Henry Fry asked what would happen if the City ran SouthRidge and
acquired/developed the land to the South adding more holes? Jerry is not in
favor of this until we solve our existing problem.
After further discussion, Dick Zubradt made a motion that the Golf Board go on
record to have the City take over the total operations of SouthRidge as soon as
practically possible, protecting the City assets. Dan Preble seconded the
motion. The motion passed unanomously 6-0.
Steve Jouard agreed that that's the way to go, but said we should focus on
management with privitization as much as possible. Roger Sample echoed Dick
Zubradt's feelings that it is presumed upon the City's ability to run the course
for profitability. Al Bednarz agreed the City should be more involved but
wonders whether once we became involved whether the previous fee decision that
has been made could be revisited.
Other Business
Jerry discussed the Open Meetings memorandum from City Attorney Steve Roy
with the Board. There were no questions or concerns.
Jerry noted that this is Iry Wilson's last Board meeting as he is retiring
from the Board after four years of service. Council has decided to
eliminate our alternate member position and they have appointed current
alternate Al Bednarz to replace Irv. They also reappointed Roger Sample
to another four year term. Iry noted that today is his birthday.
Dick Zubradt commented that maintenance of the driving range should be in
the Golf Professionals' contracts.
Jerry briefly discussed the financial and statistical reports through May.
For the last time, Iry Wilson made a motion to adjourn. The meeting was
adjourned at 8:26 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Steve Jouard, Board Secretary
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June 20, 1990
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Meeting Attendance
Board Members Staff Guests
Roger Sample
Dan Peble
Al Bednarz
Steve Jouard
Iry Wilson
Dick Zubradt
Jerry P. Brown
Bill Metier
Jim Greer
Mike Powers
Joe Nance
Doug Evans
Alyce Nierman
Henry Fry
Dick Smith