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CITY OF FORT COLLINS
CULTURAL, LIBRARY, AND RECREATIONAL SERVICES
GOLF BOARD
CITY COUNCIL LIAISON TO THE BOARD: Councilman Bob McCluskey, Jr.
STAFF SUPPORT TO THE BOARD: Jerry P. Brown, Assistant to the
Director/CLRS; and Alyce Nierman, Golf Division Secretary.
MINUTES: Regular Meeting of March 1, 1995
The meeting was called to order at the SouthRidge Golf Course
Clubhouse at 7:00 p.m. by Golf Board President Henry Fry. Cindy
Roper called to say she would be unable to attend tonight's
meeting.
AGENDA REVIEW: There were no changes to the printed agenda.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
It was moved by Tom DeGrand and seconded by Mindy Markley to
approve the Golf Board minutes of February 15, 1995 as presented.
The motion passed (8:0).
CITIZEN PARTICIPATION:
Louis Scharf presented additional information to the Board. He
explained the chart that was presented and pointed out the second
part which shows the break even rounds needed for the different
types of pass holders (based on 18-hole rounds). There were no
questions or comments by Board members. Henry Fry thanked Mr.
Scharf for being present tonight and supplying the Board with
additional data.
Gary Hall came to the Board meeting tonight mostly to see the new
face of the SouthRidge clubhouse. He has golfed in Fort Collins
many years and SouthRidge is now his home course. Further, he was
disturbed after reading the recent stories in the paper of what
happened at the last Board meeting and felt he should attend this
meeting. Overall the Golf Board does a good job, even if he does
take some exceptions to decisions made. Mr. Hall was disappointed
with the citizen attendance tonight. If he had attended the last
Golf Board meeting he would have stated that he would not get an
annual pass as there is such a variety of courses to choose from in
this area, and that people who choose to purchase passes have a
wonderful deal. In conclusion Mr: Hall thinks the Golf Board does
a good job. He would like to see a way to encourage more citizen
participation at all Golf Board meetings, not just when there is a
controversy.
REVIEW OF REVISED GOLF BOARD BYLAWS
This topic was scheduled tonight as it was originally postponed
from the February 15 Board meeting. The last time this topic was
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dealt with was in 1977. There have been piecemeal revisions over
the years, such as the election of officers and the number of
members serving on the Golf Board, however no overall changes or
approvals have been done. The functions of the Golf Board were
revised and approved by City Council last fall. The document
prepared for the Board is staff's attempt at a set of by-laws,
however, these have not been reviewed by the City Attorney nor the
City Clerk. Other Board by-laws were used as examples to piece
together this draft copy of the Golf Board by-laws. Each paragraph
article was reviewed by staff. After review it was asked if the
Board felt Article V, referencing "Committees", should be included
in the by-laws or does it appear to be superfluous? In addition
there is no definition of reasons attendance at Golf Board meetings
is "not approved". The Board may wish to review the reasons or set
down specifics. The "old" by-laws were attached for comparison.
Mary Hodge observed that Article IV "Objectives of Board" in the
existing by-laws has 7 items listed. Jerry stated that the old
Fort Collins Golf Association needed some guidance; but the list is
not seen as necessary now that we are operational. Mary agreed
that if the Golf Board continues with the 5, 8, and 10 year plans
there would be no need to have guidelines written down. If there
are established long term goals, and issues are brought before the
Board for discussion and decisions, a need for Article IV is not
seen. Jerry stated that a lot of this information may be included
in the policies and procedures manual. When the Golf Board was
first established, getting memberships was deemed as important.
Since the 1980's the popularity of golf has increased tremendously.
Mary suggested having Golf Board goals printed on one page to be
given to newly appointed Board members. This thought was supported
by Mindy Markley, as when she was appointed to the Board she read
the recent minutes to get an idea on the direction the Golf Board
was going. Jerry feels a good place for listing the objectives of
the Golf Board would be in the operations manual. Henry Fry stated
it may be more important to have this in the by-laws for new Board
members rather than in the day-to-day operations manual for
employees. Henry speculated that a statement of purpose (mission
statement) be included each year with the work plan.
Frank Blanco questioned where the operation of the driving ranges
would be placed? It was clarified that some items can be defined
in the golf pros' contracts. However, as private vendors, the golf
pros set all fees for the driving range, pull carts, and club
repair, etc. Staff can question the fees established, but the
final decision rests with golf pros. As the contracts will be
renewable on an annual basis, fees can come under more scrutiny at
that time. It is planned to take the recommended changes next to
the City Attorney and City Clerk for their review. It is then
planned to have the final draft back to the Golf Board at their
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April meeting to consider adoption.
PRESENTATION AND TOUR OF SOUTHRIDGE RESTAURANT/SNACK BAR
Mary Hodge commented that coming in here tonight was very
refreshing. She is very excited for the people at SouthRidge and
the changes taking place. Derek Cordova then addressed the Board
and citizens present, giving them a brief outline of his
involvement in the food and beverage industry, and his long time
connections with the golf courses in Fort Collins. In 1994,there
were quite a few problems with the Health Department, but during an
inspection last week, the inspector couldn't believe the changes
made toward improvement. In looking at the whole golf experience,
food and beverage is an important part of the full picture. Derek
spoke extensively regarding his management philosophy and the goals
he has established. Dan Bruntz and Kelly McIntyre were introduced
as Derek's partner and manager, respectively, and they will be an
important part of the success of SouthRidge.
In 1994 there were spot checks on liquor sales to minors conducted
at all three courses. SouthRidge received a violation, and now it
is being stressed to all employees that ID's will be checked and
employees go through training and have a manual that deals with the
types of ID's that can be taken. The only alcohol sold and allowed
on the course is 3.2 beer; hard drinks will be allowed only in the
bar. The SouthRidge restaurant and snack bar contract expires
December 31, 1995, and Derek and Dan are taking a big chance by
incorporating all these changes and remodeling the restaurant at
this time. In addition, Derek and Dan made a tough management
decision and hired new staff members as they wanted to train them
from the beginning. The employees will have uniforms and are
taught that people at SouthRidge are not just customers, they are
guests. The golfer will always be the first priority. Derek and
Dan then took everyone on a tour through the kitchen facilities.
OTHER BUSINESS
-- Tuesday, March 7, City Council will be deciding on an agenda
item regarding extension of the golf pro agreement for
SouthRidge. A copy of a confidential memo from the City
Attorney was distributed tonight to the Golf Board. Council
appears to be satisfied with the proposal. Tom DeGrand, in
trying to learn more about the RFP process, asked what some of
the differences are between the pro contracts at our courses?
Jerry stated that each vendor makes different bids depending on
what cash they expect to earn, but the scope of services is
essentially the same.
-- Henry Fry asked to talk about the junior golf marketing
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proposal. Jerry stated that Parks and Recreation Public
Relations Coordinator Dave Warner came up with a package to be
presented to the Golf Board for review. The golf pros have not
yet seen this proposal as it has just been put together. As we
are just starting this process, a decision by the Board is not
needed at this time. Henry.asked Derek about the age market at
SouthRidge and programs being offered? Derek stated the age
marketed is 6 to 15, which usually equates to 9th grade and
under. Most high school students have more individualized
programs offered. Henry wondered if high school newspapers
would really be the best choice to spend money as stated in the
proposal. Mary Hodge is not quite sure where senior high kids
would get their information if it is not sent to the high
schools. Henry thinks we should establish our target market at
the junior high level or younger. Derek thought we might be
able to put together a package on intramural level activities.
The opportunity to compete brings more interest. Henry
suggested the possibility of the Golf Division promoting junior
golf by matching the expense of the golf pros at the different
courses. This would allow them to expand what they offer.
Derek commented that he is receiving more calls regarding
junior golf and that there appears to be more interest in the
community. Henry added that if we reach some of the parents,
they in turn may direct their children. Tom DeGrand asked
Derek if there was some type of pattern developing in golf
play? Derek replied that golf is more popular and people are
viewing this as a family activity. As to the proposal
presented by Dave Warner, Derek would like to have a chance to
review it and come back at a later date to the Board after he
has had a chance to meet with Jim Greer and Joe Nance to
discuss their recommendations.
-- Mary Hodge asked about the status of the development of the
community park on the east side of Lemay Avenue, and the
possible expansion of SouthRidge by two holes? Jerry reported
that we are pretty much stuck with what is currently set up.
We have been trying to find land that could be used for
expansion of the course, but have had no luck so far.
-- Mary asked about the status of the computerized tee time
reservation system? Jerry replied that Board discussion on
this topic is scheduled for the fall of this year.
-- Mindy Markley asked about ADA and where we stand? Jerry stated
that we are getting closer. Henry urges that we get things
going on the Collindale Clubhouse restrooms to be ready by
April 1. .Jerry stated that schedules are set by the City
Facilities Department, and the $25,000 budgeted will probably
be used in full. A set of proposed plans can be found at the
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Collindale Pro Shop.
-- Henry had a chat regarding City Dialogue with Steve Vandermeer
and found there is another round of open discussions planned
for citizen input. It is felt that the more times the need for
a fourth golf course is expressed will benefit golf in the
community.
BOARD MEMBERS AND STAFF COMMENTS/REPORTS
-- Jerry has all the annual reports from other City Boards and
Commissions. If Golf Board members have an interest in seeing
these reports, they are available for checking out.
-- The City Clerk is requesting that informationbe shared
regarding the April 4 mail ballot election. There will be no
precinct polling places; this will be a total mail in election.
A video is planned for showing on Channel 27.
-- Frank Blanco expressed his displeasure of the Coloradoan
article by Sean Duff on February 18th. In particular he felt
it was wrong to state that Mr. Scharf and annual pass holders
that didn't like the fees in Fort Collins should go somewhere
else to golf.
-- Mary Hodge sometimes feels the Golf Board needs to hold
meetings just for business, in addition to other meetings to
discuss various non -business issues. Further, Mary remembered
that Henry had the idea of holding a meeting where citizens can
present the Board with their ideas. This would help to address
the comments that the Board doesn't listen.
-- Henry observed that today is the first day that 1995 Annual
Pass fees are in place. This past few weeks have been very
difficult. We have learned things and will be viewing things
from a different perspective when discussing and setting 1996
fees and charges. Mr. Scharf has taken the time to give us
additional feedback. However, at this time Henry would like to
bring a little closure to the fee issue and get on with other
1995 business. Jerry and Frank Blanco have had several
conversations with Frank suggesting that committee reports be
submitted by August or September 1. In addition, it was
suggested that there could be two or three Golf Board meetings
during that time frame to discuss the reports and get
additional input from citizens. The opportunity window for
these discussion runs from the end of August to the middle of
October. The Board may have to spend a little more time with
meetings, forums, open houses, etc. Finally, Mayor Ann Azari
wrote a memo that requested the Finance Department staff be
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assigned to review the Golf fee numbers submitted. Finance
Director Alan Krcmarik will start this process as soon as
possible, and copies of the report findings will be
distributed. Addresses of Golf Board members were given to Mr.
Krcmarik, who may be contacting them during the review process.
It was felt that at this point, we should proceed with 1995 and
have more discussion and review regarding the 1996 fees and
charges.
-- The Collindale pump system bids came in on target. We are
still working with the same time table.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 9:10 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Alyce Nierman, Secretary III
Golf Division
Meeting Attendance
BOARD MEMBERS STAFF GUESTS
Henry Fry
Frank Blanco
Tom DeGrand
Mary Hodge
Armon Johannsen
Mindy Markley
David Shands
Tom White
Jerry P. Brown
Randy Bonneville
Derek Cordova
Dan Bruntz
Alyce Nierman
Kelly McIntyre
Louis Scharf
Alvin M. Pettine
Gary Hall