HomeMy WebLinkAboutGolf Board - Minutes - 08/19/1998CITY OF FORT COLLINS
CULTURAL, LIBRARY, AND RECREATIONAL SERVICES
GOLF BOARD
MINUTES: Regular Meeting of August 19, 1998. The meeting was held at the City Park Nine
Golf Course Clubhouse, 411 South Bryan Avenue
CITY COUNCIL LIAISON TO THE BOARD: Councilman Bill Bertschy.
STAFF SUPPORT TO THE BOARD: Jerry P. Brown, Manager of Golf, and Alyce Nierman,
Administrative Aide.
BOARD CHAIRPERSON: Mindy Markley at 224-9102 (w) or 226-2700 (h).
CALL MEETING TO ORDER:
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Chairperson Mindy Markley.
AGENDA REVIEW: There were no changes to the printed agenda.
ITEMS OF NOTE:
Jerry P. Brown stated that Board Member Bill Rutledge is out of town and would not be present
this evening. The second announcement was that Frank Blanco has been re -appointed to serve
on the Golf Board and the new appointee is Mike Hall who is replacing outgoing Board member
David Shands. Each person has been appointed to a four-year term.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
It was moved by Henry Fry, and seconded by Tom White, that the Board approve the minutes of
the Regular Meeting of July 15, 1998, as presented. The motion was unanimously (8:0)
approved.
CITIZEN PARTICIPATION:
Citizen Don Wilkerson, referencing the recent letter from Byrd Curtis printed in the newspaper,
noted the need for the Golf Division to catch up on expenditures, and asked why we haven't kept
up with the needs? Mindy Markley stated that a full overview of this will be presented in the
segment on the Proposed 1999 Fees.
PUBLIC INPUT ON PROPOSED 1999 GOLF FEES AND CHARGES
Mindy Markley began the public input segment on the Proposed 1999 Golf Fees and Charges
with a brief overview. She said the Golf Board deals with a lot of different issues like automated
tee times, Golf Professional and Concessionaire Agreements, and junior golf, etc. There are 11
to 12 meetings each year, and if there are more issues to be considered than scheduled meetings,
we hold additional meetings or appoint a sub committee to review the topic and return with a
report or recommendation to the Board. It has been noted that with all these meetings
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throughout the year, we generally only get to meet the golfers at the meetings involving fee
discussions. We are all here tonight because we care about this subject. We have discussions all
year long that bring us to this topic tonight, and each year we spend a lot of time going over
things that may not be necessary. So it was decided to take the first fifteen minutes of time to
review what has happened in the past.
Mindy first made clarification on Golf Board membership noting that there are term limits.
Board members receive no financial compensation, and no free golf. We try to listen to the
needs of all golfers, and also listen to the needs of our courses. After weighing this information
and extensive discussions, we make recommendations to the Golf Division, City Manager, and
City Council that we feel will insure good, available golf to our public. This brings us to the
topic of fees and charges.
The Board has to look at what our financial situation is, not what we want it to be. The Golf
Fund has to be 100% self supporting, and we do not pay for other recreation or projects in Fort
Collins. We are different from private business in that if something breaks, since we are
connected to the City, we can't just run to the bank for a loan. When the pump went out at
Collindale Golf Course, we went to City Council and asked for assistance. At that time we
received funds from the General Fund for the "community value of golf." However, we were
also told this would be "for a while".
Past capital outlay was reviewed and it was determined that items with a 3-10 year life
expectancy usually cost less than $50,000. The capital items that have a 10-25 year life
expectancy range in cost from $100,000 to $1,000,000 or more, and we had not dealt with these
big ticket items for quite a while.
The history of SouthRidge was reviewed when the City was left with the financial responsibility.
Options discussed included selling the course and closing up operations, but it was decided that
the Sales and Use Tax Fund and Golf Fund would share the responsibility and have a 50150 split
between the golfers and the City. When the SouthRidge debt is paid in a couple of years we will
have an additional $150,000, but some items cannot wait for a couple of years to be funded.
We started looking within the existing structure and decided to first make sure our own house
was in order. Then all the special usage groups (men's associations, ladies associations, schools,
etc.) were contacted, and we asked them to tell us how many tournaments and events they
planned to have at the City's golf courses. Quite a bit was clarified through this process. The
Board next reviewed the capital outlay needs and requests. We are not a country club, and
virtually all the capital items listed are things needed to just run the courses well for our golfers.
The Board looked at the basic fee structure including juniors, seniors, and regular golfers. It was
decided to have juniors stay in the formula. Senior golfers and all other special needs people
were added and we went back to the budget and reviewed what could be done with Annual Pass
fees and daily Green Fees. After a lot of debate, a figure could not be agreed to on the number of
rounds each annual pass person plays, so it was decided to offer a variety of discounts and let the
golfers review the structure and decide what best fits their specific needs.
It was felt that some of the tension could be alleviated if rate increases were alternated each year.
Also after public input, it was decided to review rates for out-of-town golfers, safety issues of
two holes at SouthRidge (obtaining the land starting the process), the irrigation system at
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Collindale, etc. Mindy personally does not want her fees raised, but the Golf Fund needs to raise
more money to meet our needs. Some basic public concerns and reports have been received by
the Golf Board. Based on the structure we have been given, the Board believes we came up with
the best solution. One particular group still had some concerns and a meeting was held last year.
An outcome of this meeting was a study being made on the fees and charges for area golf, and it
was found that Fort Collins was in the low end of the spectrum.
On May 26, the Golf Board met with City Council and made a presentation showing the value of
our courses, the community value of golf, the financial structure of the Golf Division and our
needs. The meeting was then opened up for discussion and a question and answer period. One
question asked by Council is why golfers were not paying the full SouthRidge debt? However,
for now Council has let that subject go. Another suggestion made was to bring in an outside
management company and let them run our courses. If this avenue is chosen, the courses would
be run fully like a business and they would be run to make a profit. A third item brought up for
discussion was the community value of golf money being given to the Golf Fund. City Council
views things on a problematic scale: streets, police, library, etc., and golf is not viewed as a
problem issue. When it finally gets down to golf, Council just does not have the money. After
the meeting Mindy asked about other recreational programs receiving funding. The Council
member asked felt certain those items would also be reviewed. At this time City Council is
staying with the agreement made on the SouthRidge debt. However, at the end of 2002, they
want the Golf Fund to be a true Enterprise Fund. Discounts should only be given out on a true
need basis, and we should develop a strong fee policy that takes future needs into account. Many
letters and phone calls have been received from golfers regarding this issue, and after extensive
research, we believe what is being presented is the best for the total golfing community.
Mindy stated that Dan MacArthur from the City's Neighborhood Resources Office has been
asked to facilitate tonight's meeting. Dan introduced himself and added that he is here to keep
things moving along. He asked that we try to keep away from any personal attacks. The basic
rules are that comments and ideas are not personal, try to keep comments brief, and let
everybody finish their thoughts. Dan added that Jackie Rael from Cultural, Library, and
Recreational Services/Administration will scribe and Golf Board Secretary Alyce Nierman will
take the Board minutes, also recording citizen comments. All the comments made tonight will
be sent to the City Manager.
Marcia Odell began this segment by asking if each of the City courses submits a budget and a list
of their needs? Each of the three City -owned courses submits an annual budget and a list of
needs and wants. Harvey Riley had two questions. Who owns the ditch that runs through City
Park Nine? When Annual Passes are purchased on March I do we know how much money is
received and do we invest the money? It was responded that the New Mercer Ditch Company
owns the ditch. As to the money received, it is invested by the City's Finance Department. Mr.
Riley then stated that he does not like the current policy on fees for golfers coming from out of
town, and feels the fees charged them should be raised. Mr. Riley further disagreed that we do
not know how many rounds are played by each pass holder, when all that is needed is to put this
data into a computer and we would have that information.
Don Dorsey, referencing the SouthRidge debt, stated that the annual contribution from the Sales
and Use Tax Fund of $200,000 will total around $2,000,000 by the time it is paid off. In addition
there is the $48,000 each year that is given to the Golf Fund for "community value of golf," and
the City Council wants us to become self-sufficient. At the end of this period of time will the
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golfers have to pay these amounts back to the City? It was responded by the Board that these
amounts were not a loan, and we do not have to pay these funds back. Jerry added that he and
the Board has offered to the City Manager and City Council to scale back each year the amount
received for "community value of golf' to allow a gradual decrease of this subsidy and not be
such a hit to the Golf Fund.
Becky Irwin asked if golfers would get a lower rate in 2003 when the SouthRidge debt is paid?
It was responded that we don't know what will happen in 2003. At that time we will have
approximately $150,000 that will be available and it can be spent for any purpose or on what is
needed. Becky then asked if the Collindale Clubhouse is needed now or can this project wait
until after 2003? Mindy responded by stating that this project is way out there, and is currently
not on the projected funding list.
Orville Riddle asked which holes at SouthRidge are being referenced as a problem and
hazardous? Henry Fry replied that holes #17 and #18 and the Driving Range are the problems.
There is a chance now to buy some land east of the 1Ith fairway, before the area is fully
developed, that can be used to realign the course and make these holes safer. Some comments
were made at this time that the Driving Range at City Park Nine is also not safe and something
should be done there. The general feeling of the golfers in attendance is that big hitters should
not be allowed to use woods and long irons on the City Park Nine Driving Range.
Ralph Cirillo after hearing that the population of Fort Collins is approximately108,000 and that
there are 15,000 golfers, shared his disbelief that there are too many courses in Fort Collins. He
further commented that fees are getting out of the question and golf is becoming a rich man's
sport! Don Dorsey questioned the City's rationale for charging the golf community for the debt
at SouthRidge? Gordon Gartner asked if it was known how many Council members play golf?
He said the City's policies state that golf is an Enterprise Fund, but it hasn't become one yet, and
he does not see consistency in that statement. We as a group should make a statement that
capital repairs should come from the City not the Golf Fund. Mindy agrees that the Council
needs to hear that golfers are unhappy with the situation. Mike Sanders added that when the
Golf Board had the Study Session with City Council, we expressed those same beliefs, but
Council told us no. Shirley Hergenreter observed that when the golf fee policy was adopted,
Mayor Azari commented that the natural assumption is golf is a recreational activity. Mindy
stated that Mayor Azari is very supportive of us and golf, and is in support of the Golf Fund.
Shirley Hergenreter then stated that many people would like to have senior rates. Mrs.
Hergenreter also asked what happened to $69,000 that was collected by golfers that was
absorbed into General Fund? We feel City Council and the Golf Board have a responsibility to
golfers, and we just keep plugging away. Referencing the comments made earlier, Jerry stated
that City Council is comprised of seven people, and it takes at least four Council members to
agree. We were told fairly clearly that they would like to see these "subsidies" eliminated. In
the early 1980's a surcharge fee was collected to pay for construction of a new golf course.
When SouthRidge came along, there was no need to continue this fee collection. In the early
1980's, the Golf Fund stopped receiving Federal Revenue Sharing money and the original
surcharge funds collected were absorbed into the Golf Fund to help bridge the financing.
Buford Plemmons believes this group should review our administrative costs, and asked if the
administrator of EPIC is paid by the City or separate fund? Jerry stated that all of the Recreation
Division (Golf being separate) has established fees and charges with approximately 55% to 60%
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of the operating and maintenance costs being recovered by fees and charges. The wages of all
Recreation staff come from the Recreation Fund. Mr. Plemmons then asked about term limits
for serving on the Board? Mindy stated that each person can be appointed to two full four-year
terms. There is an exception, if a person is appointed to complete another person's term, that is
in addition to their two full term appointments. Based on comments for non-resident fees, Mr.
Plemmons asked if LaPorte residents would pay more for their golf? Mindy informed everyone
present that we have asked the staff to start tracking residency in September of our course users.
Buford suggested using the PR-1 School District's boundaries as "resident". This idea had been
the well received and discussed previously. It was echoed by many that Loveland residents are
not residents of Fort Collins when considering fees. Recently Buford heard a radio ad asking
people to come play golf in Fort Collins, and asked who pays for that advertising? Jerry
responded the Golf Fund pays for that, and it is only on KIIX, and just on the Sports Jam.
Virtually all marketing outside of Fort Collins in general has been eliminated. In relation to the
restricted Annual Pass currently $430, Buford asked if that price will be reduced next year? Yes,
the price will be reduced. Henry added that the Base Fee goes down, and the golfer will pay a
Per Play Fee each time they sign in to play.
Harvey Riley asked for a clarification on resident/non-resident, and if Loveland would be
included in resident fees? Currently annual passes are sold only to people who are residents of
Fort Collins. The recent discussions in staff have been whether to include residents of Bellvue,
Wellington, Timnath, and LaPorte? Myrle Eley asked what could be done to convince City
Council? Mindy stated that we want them to understand our needs. We need to come together,
not attack, but let them know that there are 15,000 people out there who are affected by this.
Shirley Hergenreter asked when it was decided, and who decided golf would be an Enterprise
Fund? This decision was made when Collindale Golf Course opened in 1971. The Golf Board
has gone before City Council many times, with a different City Manager each time, and we have
been told "You are an Enterprise Fund, and that is how it will remain." It needs to be
remembered that Council reviews all things funded by our tax dollars. It is not that they don't
like golf; they just have many other areas that they give higher priority designation. Mike
Sanders added that before going into the Study Session, we felt that we would be funding the full
SouthRidge debt, but we came out of that session status quo. Since then he has heard Council
will continue honoring that commitment, assuming that nothing drastic happens that requires
additional funds elsewhere.
Gilbert Fechner asked if a bond issue had been considered to raise money for capital projects?
Jerry replied that we have discussed many options, and with big items like a new course or
clubhouse we might be able to do this type of arrangement. Further, we currently acquire
equipment through a lease purchase arrangement and pay an additional 25% of total cost over
five years. Projects like the Collindale and SouthRidge irrigation systems, additional holes, etc.
are limited in that Colorado State law says we cannot finance that way.
Mary Cirillo asked what qualifies a person for the super senior classification? To be eligible for
a super senior classification, the golfer has to be 80 years old or older. However, the previous
Annual Pass for seniors is effectively the same as the current restricted use pass; it is just not
called a senior pass any more. The price is the same. In response to general comments that 80 is
too old and we should consider lowering the age limit, Mindy noted that lowering the age to 70
for- a super senior brings back two main issues. The Golf Fund still has to keep within the
budget, and if one person's rates are lowered, the fees for someone else would have to be raised.
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Eldon Reutter commented that a rumor has been circulating that passes would be eliminated and
wondered if there is any truth in that? Mindy responded that there has been no discussion about
eliminating passes. We are aware of how passionate the public is about passes and it is not our
intention to eliminate their availability. Jerry added that by eliminating the no per play fee, the
people who play 18-holes, on weekends, etc., will be paying more next year. We considered
various options and by eliminating the no per play fee option, it bring fees more into balance.
Henry Fry noted that one of largest concerns mentioned by City Council is that we are
discounting our prime time product by allowing weekend pass use at reduced rates when we
could be selling those tee times at full value. By eliminating the no per play fee option, people
who use the course more, pay more than those who do not use course as much. The decision
must be made by every golfer to determine which fee option works best for them.
Harvey Riley's belief is that if a $4.00 charge is implemented, there is no guarantee that we will
not lose players. This surcharge is increasing his cost for playing golf by 300% and he can't
afford the increase. Jerry noted that there was a sheet presented tonight, and asked that golfers
do their own math by figuring out the base rate and adding the surcharge and other specific costs
for the number of rounds played. This should be done for 1998 and make a projection for 1999
with the fees shown on the sheet and you will get to a point that tells you what you will be
paying per round. It was requested that the math be done first before getting angry. Henry
commented that if it comes out that you pay $9.00 per round, the discount should be calculated
from the full price of daily Green Fees.
Doug Wyffels asked if there was a way to poll the Annual Pass holders to get a pulse on whether
they will continue to purchase passes with the new fee recommendations? Mike Sanders
observed that if we contact pass holders stating that we plan to raise fees and ask for their
opinion, the response will naturally be that they are not happy with the increases. No one likes to
pay higher fees. Currently 3% of the golfing community takes up 30% of our course capacity. If
some prime time space is opened up by the new fee structure, we don't know if it would be filled
by other pass holders, out-of-town players, or full Green Fee players. What we are trying to
address is the fact that we are responsible for capital expenditures and needs. This proposed fee
structure is not set in stone, and the plan is to try it for one or two years to see how it works out.
Warren Riddell stated that if the Golf Fund wants easy money, just increase the non-resident fee
for 9-holes of golf by $2.00 to $3.00.
Dan MacArthur announced that there is another public input session scheduled. Mindy then
announced that the second public input is scheduled for the Golf Board Meeting on September
16 and will be held at the Collindale Clubhouse. Everyone present was thanked for their
comments. The goal this evening was that we start working together and the feeling is that we
have made a move toward accomplishing that goal. At the conclusion of the citizen comment
segment on Proposed 1999 Golf Fees and Charges (9:00 p.m.) a short break was taken to allow
people to leave who did not wish to participate in later agenda items.
RECOMMENDATION ON CITY PARK NINE DITCH RELOCATION PROJECT
The Golf Board meeting resumed at 9:15 p.m.
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Jerry restated from previous meetings that the New Mercer Ditch Company will be paying the
full cost for this realignment. It was asked how far the ditch would swing out? City Park Nine
Superintendent Dave Sadler responded that there will be about a 25 yard landing area. Mindy
commented that no negative input regarding this project was brought up at the staff meeting
today.
In looking at the drawing distributed, Tom DeGrand asked about the bridges and if one bridge
gets relocated? Dave Sadler stated that one will be relocated, others will be brand new. The
bumpy bridge by the women's #7 tee will be replaced with better timbers, but the steel will be
reused. Henry Fry asked about the cost of the timber bridges here compared with the
replacement bridges at SouthRidge. Dave stated that we do not require that kind of bridge; the
span is much shorter. Tom DeGrand then inquired about the time frame for completion of this
project. Several of the existing trees have to be moved and they will be placed out on the course
some time in October. The Ditch Company will do the actual work in November and December.
Staff will come in to seed in the spring. The only cost the golf course will inherit is the labor for
computer connections and to seed as the Ditch Company will be buying the seed.
Henry asked if any play will be lost due to this construction, or if the course would be closed to
play? Jerry noted that we may be operating on a shorter course, but it is not a big enough deal to
ask them for reimbursement. If the project is delayed or extended into higher play days, we will
charge them $100 per playable day for lost revenue. Byrd Curtis asked about the area from the
6th green to the 7th tee and was informed there would be no bridge, no ditch, just a nice walk on
covered ground. The bridge on the south side of the 6th green will remain in the same position.
Tom DeGrand then asked for information on the irrigation system. Will lines be cut? If so,
would repair or replacement be the cost of the ditch company? Dave stated that he has plans to
locate the lines, dig down and cut the pipe ourselves including the computer/electrical lines
before the construction company comes in and begins digging. The irrigation and
computer/electrical lines will come across the ditch in sleeves and if possible will be placed
under the bridges so they will not be visible.
It was moved by Mike Sanders that the Golf Board recommend approval and to proceed with the
proposed plan to relocate the ditch as it runs through City Park Nine Golf Course. The motion
was seconded by Henry Fry and received unanimous (8:0) Board approval.
COLLINDALE SNACK BAR AGREEMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE APPOINTMENT
Jerry P. Brown reported that the Agreement we have with Kevin Wilcox as concessionaire of
"Collindale Caddy Shack" expires December 31. It was agreed several years ago that we could
negotiate extensions to an existing contract, and this year we now have that opportunity to
negotiate an extension of this agreement. Jerry would like to follow what is in the contract
where we ask the public how they perceive the performance, and staff would like to have public
input on this next month at Collindale. This would make two public input sessions at the
September Board meeting. Prior to the September meeting, Jerry would like to have two Board
members meet with him and Kevin for negotiations. The committee would then make the
recommendation to the Board, along with public comment, ads in the newspaper, etc. The
recommendation could be accepted or not at the September meeting. Henry Fry asked if there is
a reason this is being done in September? According to the contract we need to give a 90 days
notice if the agreement is not being renegotiated. Henry commented that the public input in
September is after the fact, and any negative comments at that meeting does not give Kevin an
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adequate opportunity to respond. Mike Sanders suggested that we allow comments to be made
as early as the September meeting and no later than the October meeting which then allows time
for Kevin to respond to negative comments from the public.
Henry commented that the committee could hold a separate meeting between the end of the
month of August and the regular Golf Board meeting in September to review the agreement and
make a recommendation to the full Board on whether to extend. However, we can't intelligently
negotiate without public input. Jerry noted that there is a possibility for people to have
unreasonable expectations, and the bottom line is Kevin is assuming we will renegotiate the
existing contract. We need to have two members from the Board to review the agreement for
possible renegotiations. The Purchasing Division is leaving this in our hands and will not
become involved unless there is a Request For Proposal needed.
Mike Sanders moved that Bill Rutledge and Henry Fry be appointed to the Collindale Snack Bar
Agreement Review Committee. Tom DeGrand seconded the motion, and the motion was
unanimously approved (8:0).
Jerry P. Brown reported that after all the bills were paid from the Fort Collins Fore Kids Fund,
there is a balance of $52.86. Mindy stated that the golf pros did a lot this year, and they were
asked to submit a bill for their services. The bills were higher than we were able to pay and it
was suggested that the Board start raising funds now for the 1999 events. The goal is to raise
$3,000 and we are asking for sponsors to donate $200. Mindy added that she will put something
together that can be used to get the information distributed to the community. Henry Fry
speculated that if we are underpaying the golf pros at this time, maybe we should collect more
donations. It was then asked if we could pay that cost out of the Golf Fund? Jerry noted that the
money was not appropriated or budgeted nor is this expense in their agreements, so we cannot
pay the difference from the Golf Fund. Now that we have a product we can show people what
we are doing. Mike Sanders added that we should set a goal for each Golf Board member to
solicit donations of at least $300 for this event.
BOARD MEMBERS AND STAFF COMMENTS/REPORTS
• Frank Blanco asked for clarification of some items on the budget sheet. Who is it that
receives the amount listed for Contractual Services? What is being paid by the amount of
$27,500 and is the amount for Administrative Charge a salary figure for Golf
Administration? Jerry noted that Contractual Services is any expense that is contractual by
nature, such a phone bills, golf pros, trash, etc. The amount of $27,500 is the first of two
equal repayments of money borrowed from the General Fund in 1995 to cover a revenue
shortfall due to bad weather that year. The agreement was to repay at some time, and now is
the time. As to the Administrative Services, that is an amount that all funds pay to the City
for general services such as the City Manager, City Attorney, Finance, etc. This amount is
based on the number of employees we have and our annual budget. One additional
clarification requested was the figure at the bottom of 1998 of ($12,289). Jerry stated that
this was a projected shortfall for this year, but in reviewing the revenue and rounds played,
there will probably not be a shortfall this year.
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• Henry Fry, having had the opportunity to chair these discussions in past years, personally
thanked Mindy for her time and effort. This was a very positive meeting that moved us
forward, that the reason was the beginning 15-minute presentation. Tom White asked if we
planned to repeat this presentation at the citizen input meeting at the Collindale Clubhouse
next month as he felt it was instrumental in the tone of the meeting. The answer is yes.
Henry observed that tonight's presentation cleared up a lot of misinformation prior to citizen
comments. Tom White believes that 90% of the planned negative comments were diverted
by the presentation. It was noted that City Manager John Fishbach and Councilmember Bill
Bertschy suggested using a facilitator for the meeting. When planning this presentation, it
was felt that the public needed to know that we understood their thoughts. Henry noted that
one faction was missing tonight and wondered if we have any idea what they are going to
present? Jerry has not heard one word from the other group.
• Frank Blanco asked what other Board members felt about the non-resident fee? Mindy
stated that we will talk about this next year. We have heard from the public that they want
us to look at it, and we have asked staff to start collecting data. In September, we will start
collecting data at all three courses regarding non-resident play. If enough sentiment is
expressed at the September meeting to begin collecting non-resident rates, Henry Fry
wondered if the Board has the ability to change the policy and begin collection of a non-
resident fee in 1999? He personally believes we have received enough from the citizens that
we should begin collection in 1999. Jerry stated that he has a plan to try implementation in
prime time. There is a little problem, however, with the 10-Play Punch Cards. Currently we
allow non-residents to purchase punch cards. Another issue to be addressed would be
tournament fees. Would participants pay tournament fees in addition to non-resident fees?
The Board asked Jerry to return with a non-resident fee plan that takes into account
comments made this evening. Clarification was requested by Mike Sanders that if a non-
resident shows up with a resident, and the resident is paying, what fee would be charged? It
was the belief by staff that no matter who pays, if a person shows up who is a non-resident,
they pay the higher fee. Jerry ended by stating he would return in September with a non-
resident fee plan showing increases of $2.00 for 9-hole and $4.00 for 18-hole rounds.
• Frank Blanco commented that he has been receiving a number of complaints that courses are
tied up due to tournaments and people are unable to get a tee time. This is particularly true
of SouthRidge. Jerry noted that if we did not have tournaments, the Golf Fund would have
to find a way to raise an additional $80,000+ to make SouthRidge available. Frank then
asked if there were guidelines on how many tournaments one group can schedule per year?
He believes that the Golf Fund is losing revenue at Collindale by allowing one group to lock
in so many weekends and keep the courses to themselves. Mindy noted that this topic as a
whole was reviewed and discussed a couple of years ago and the Board decided to leave this
part status quo. She further commented that by using Annual Pass cards and paying a higher
Surcharge, costs for this group will be brought more into line.
• Jerry informed the Board that the September meeting will include the annual election of
officers.
ADJOURNMENT
A motion to adjourn the Golf Board meeting was made by Mike Hall and seconded by Tom
White. The motion was approved (8:0) and the Golf Board meeting adjourned at 9:40 p.m.
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MEETING ATTENDANCE
Board Members
Mindy Markley
Frank Blanco
Byrd Curtis
Tom DeGrand
Henry Fry
Mike Hall
Mike Sanders
Tom White
Citizens
Marsella Benzel
Dottie Bourque
Dorothy Carroll
Mary Cirillo
Ralph Cirillo
Irene S. Couchon
Don Dorsey
Margaret Edmunds
Myrle Eley
Gil Fechner
Respectfully submitted,
Alyce Nierman, Administrative Aide
Staff
Jerry P. Brown
Randy Bonneville
Jim Greer
Dan MacArthur
Alyce D. Nierman
Jackie Rael
Dale Smigelsky
Kevin Wilcox
Vivian Fitch
Gordon Gartner
Sophie Grothe
Shirley Hergenreter
Becky Irwin
Chuck Irwin
Edward Mestas
Myrl Nelson
Mike Nytes
Marcia Odell
Buford Plemmons
Eldon Reutter
Orville Riddle
Harvey R. Riley
John Schuh
John Siglowski
Maxi Stewart
LaVerne Tiffin
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