HomeMy WebLinkAboutNatural Resources Advisory Board - Minutes - 01/05/1994MINUTES
CITY OF FORT COLLINS
NATURAL RESOURCES ADVISORY BOARD
REGULAR MEETING
281 CONFERENCE ROOK - 281 N. COLLEGE
JANUARY S, 1994
For Reference: Bill Miller, NRAB Chair
Chris Kneeland, Council liaison
Tom Shoemaker, Staff liaison
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Boardmembers Present
Phil Friedman, Will Smith, Ryszard Chojnacki, Tim Johnson, Lisa Howard, Hal
Swope, Craig McGee
Boardmembers Absent (excused)
Katy Mason, Bill Miller
Staff Present
Tom Shoemaker, Julie Bothwell, Mike Powers, Edith Felchle
Miller was out of town for his father's funeral so Friedman chaired the
meeting.
Introduction of Ner Boardmember
Ryszard Chojnacki introduced himself to the Board.
Approval of Minutes
It was moved and seconded that the minutes of the December 8, 1994
NRAB meeting be approved with the following changes: Smith noted that on
page five, paragraph seven "ssues" should be "issues."; page seven,
paragraph eight, "development" should be "development." Johnson suggested
shortening the summary of recycling program recommendations on page two by
stating, "Shoemaker mentioned several major issues related to recycling
programs:" Johnson noted that page three, paragraph five is unclear
regarding Mason's statements. Bothwell will check the meaning with Mason.
Legislative Issue
Smith stated that the Larimer County Environmental Advisory Board is
concerned about proposed legislation related to governmental authority to
charge for waste hauling. The bill would have some serious effects on
limiting the options available to the City for future recycling and waste
collection programs. Shoemaker answered that the City is aware of the Bill
and has expressed opposition. The Legislative Agenda that Council adopted
included policy statements that said "we do not like anything that limits
our options, we do like everything that improves recycling." This bill if
adopted by the legislature would basically put out of business any
municipal waste collection service because it would prohibit municipalities
from charging residents for their service in preference to a private
service.
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Poudre River 8tu4v/P1an
Mike Powers, Director of Cultural, Library and Recreational Services
was present to discuss his preliminary ideas for another study of the
Poudre River that was included by City Council in the 1994 budget.
Powers stated that the study was an outgrowth of the "Riverwalk
Feasibility Study" proposed by Challenge Fort Collins. He noted that the
original study area was a very short stretch of the river from Martinez
Park to Lemay. Council directed that the study area include the whole river
from Overland Trail out to I-25 and that the scope include more than the .
riverwalk concept, but also ecological and natural area considerations.
Powers noted that this expansion in scope and study area presents a
challenge with the $40,000 budget that was allocated. He said that this
budget would not allow bringing in a consultant to set up a large community
outreach effort, to ask the community what it wants for the river, and then
launch a large data collection effort.
He noted that the river has been the subject of numerous studies and
his preliminary thinking is to bring in a consultant to take an objective
look at all the past studies and try to figure out a land use approach that
brings all the pieces together from the past studies. Staff would then
begin a citizen outreach to ask if the composite vision misses anything
critical and reflects community desires.
Powers said that, ideally the results would be presented to the
community in a form that is near completion; staff and the consultant would
then take input from various community meetings, turn it into a final
product, and present it to Council.
Powers asked Boardmembers if they thought this was a good way to
attack the project?
Friedman asked what would a new study accomplish that the previous
studies before have not? Powers stated that it would help create an
overall land use strategy on all parts of the river. Powers stated that it
could also help to reconcile what he sees as conflicts on the horizon; the
community can come together and reach an agreement about the future of the
river.
Shoemaker stated that he agrees with Powers in that we do not want to
start from scratch. A lot of time was spent in the LOS looking at the
various studies and plans, so he feels that the study can go beyond "jump
starting" a consultant by laying out what is known at present and
identifying conflicts and issues that are not addressed. He feels that
there is some value in getting an objective outside view, if nothing more
than getting the extra help to put the pieces together. There are also some
specific gaps that could be addressed in such a study, including design
guidelines and recommendations on LDGS criteria.
McGee asked if staff feels that the values of the community are
reflected well enough in the studies for a consultant to be able to put
something together? Shoemaker answered that it depends a lot on the
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consultant. Given current workloads, staff is going to need help to do
this study just from a logistics standpoint in compiling data and maps.
McGee said that it would be okay to give the consultant some basic
ground rules and design parameters consistent with the studies, but he is
not sure if there is a clear set of directions that could be provided to
the consultant. There is a public outreach piece needed to have people
provide input on what they want this stretch of the river to look like.
Smith stated that with the number of studies out there, it seems that
some objectives could be very well defined to enable a group of citizens to
reconcile conflicts and assemble a composite plan from the various plans.
Then the City could take some portion of the funding and concentrate on the
public outreach portion.
Johnson stated that he felt uncomfortable about going out of town to
hire a consultant to come back with "our vision." He prefers a process
that would come to each Board that would be involved and ask them what
their sense and vision would be, then present that to the Council and let
Council make a decision on which vision they prefer. Otherwise we could
spend all the money on a plan that puts us at war with each other.
McGee feels that it makes sense from a staff workload standpoint to
have a consultant pull these pieces together, but he is concerned if we
really can provide the design parameters.
Smith commented that he is not thinking of a consultant, but a
facilitator, someone who would take a citizen group and a collection of
documents and go through a facilitated process to try and come up with some
things that could then be brought forward to the public outreach process.
He suggested Kari Van Meter Henderson.
Johnson recommended that the Natural Areas Committee meet and walk the
river and come back to the Board with a strong proposal in terms of their
vision. A committee meeting was set for 9 a.m. on Saturday, January 22,
1994. Members will meet at the Silver Grill.
Natural Areas Education Program
Edith Felchle, Natural Resources Division, was present to review staff
plans for developing the Natural Areas Education Program, including the
"Master Naturalists Program".
Felchle stated that approximately nine months ago, staff and the
Education Committee met to talk about the possibility of a Master
Naturalist Program and who might get involved. Staff was looking at it in
terms of the overall natural areas education program, including an effort
to get people out into the natural areas so they can begin to appreciate
and enjoy these areas. Staff was also looking at education for people who
do not consider themselves outdoor types, but to make sure that have
education that would help them realize some of the benefits that they are
getting from the natural areas.
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Edith reminded the board that Shoemaker had handed out some
information at the December 8, NRAB meeting that dealt with some of the
general thoughts that staff put together on the overall program and some
specific ideas about the Master Naturalist's Program. These included who
would be certifying the Master Naturalists and some of the things that the
Master Naturalist would need to know. Felchle stated that the reasons that
Staff was looking at it that way was to make sure that people who are
certified as Master Naturalists have correct information and know the basic
information that people who go out in natural areas need to know.
Felchle stated that staff has determined the fastest way to implement
the program is to hire a part-time temporary person who would put together
the overall framework for the natural areas education program, assess the
need for and interest in the Master Naturalist program, and then put that
program together in such a way that it could be implemented by existing
staff.
Felchle stated that the timing for the position is February or March,
which will fit closely with the process for defining the management plan
for the Cathy Fromme Prairie. She said that before designing an education
program that looks at getting people out into a"natural area, staff really
needs to know what the management plan is going to look like so know where
people can use the site with the least impact to resources.
Felchle asked the Board for its comments and concerns.
Friedman stated that it sounded good and hit every aspect of what
staff needs to get someone to create this concept. He asked who would
actually do the training. Felchle answered that one person would be
responsible for coordinating the training, but she expected that no single
person -could do the training because of the different types of expertise
needed.
Smith stated that he felt the proposal was complete. The only thing
missing is a little bit of the history of how the emphasis on purchasing
natural areas had come about, including some of the history of the
ordinance and how much money is associated with various acquisitions. Some
people are interested in the economics and process required to develop the
program. He asked if the Master Naturalists program was uncertain to occur,
because of the statement, "Evaluate the Master Naturalist Program." Felchle
clarified that the idea was to evaluate some of the assumptions that have
been stated, such as the assumption that the schools would like to take
classes out in natural areas.
Shoemaker stated that the emphasis is on designing the program and
looking at ways to implement the program. The guidance he has given is to
try to make the program possible without adding anymore staff. There will
be some annual cost associated with implementing the program and staff
needs to know what that will be.
Johnson stated that as more natural areas are added it might be
advantageous to hire a naturalist on staff. Shoemaker stated that since
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staff is still early in the program, he has not reached that point yet.
The areas that staff specifically are not making any commitments about
additional staff needs are in the maintenance area. Shoemaker stated there
is a clear need for additional emphasis on open space and natural areas
management as a distinguishable entity within the City structure and for
increasing staff in this area.
Shoemaker stated that the Natural Resources Division, the Open Space
and Natural Areas Management Team, and the IAS study group felt that a
position that is primarily focused on interpretation, education, and
enforcement out in the natural areas is needed also.
Swope stated that when it comes time to market this program he
certainly hopes that greater emphasis is placed on schools because there
you are working with people that do not need reeducation.
Natural Areas in Core ]Leas of Fort Collins
Shoemaker stated that at the December 8, NRAB meeting he gave a brief
introduction to this project. This is one of the 1993-1994 Council Policy
Agenda Items to reevaluate opportunities for natural areas protection
and/or acquisitions in the core parts of the city.
Shoemaker stated that he views it as a three part project. The first
part is looking at the policy questions: How do the existing policies in
the NAPP and the existing implementation guidelines relate to the core area
of the city? In order to get a sense of that, staff went ahead and did a
complete inventory of undeveloped lands in the core parts of the city to be
sure that no natural areas were previously overlooked and to identify lands
that had some potential to be turned into natural areas through habitat
restoration projects. This work showed that the strict application of the
policies that were previously adopted relative for the acquisition program
do not give a lot of flexibility to do some things in the core area of the
city because the core area has been highly developed and there is not much
opportunity. Staff is recommending to Council that some specific
adjustments be made in the policies to allow some additional flexibility to
give some of these natural area values to residents of the core.
The second part of the study is the inventory process - completion of
the data base to identify potential acquisition sites. Staff has completed
most of the work on that, but Council asked that staff look at some
additional areas. The third part is prioritization and evaluation of how
these other parcels in the core might relate to priorities citywide.
Staff's recommendation is that they complete the additional inventory and
then look at priorities in conjunction with the annual priority setting
process.
Shoemaker would like feedback on the report, including specific
recommendations on the policy language. Staff did present the policy
language to Council at their worksession on December 28, 1993 and Council
agreed that it looked good. If the Board concurs, then staff will be
presenting it to Council for adoption on January 18, 1994.
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Shoemaker described the core area as the downtown neighborhood
planning area, the east side neighborhood planning area, and the west side
neighborhood planning area. Staff included two additional areas in the
study because of ongoing neighborhood planning efforts: the
Prospect/Shields area down to Drake and out to Taft Hill and the North
College area. Key issues in the two additional areas are potential natural
areas, so staff wanted to get ahead of the game and get them inventoried.
Council asked staff also to include Spring Creek out to Lemay and the
Buckingham and Alta Vista areas.
Shoemaker stated that Karen Manci, Natural Resources Division drove
every street in the area and looked at every vacant piece of ground over
1/4 acre in size. He stated that there are some general conclusions from
this work: (1) There are some key natural area features in this area such
as the Poudre River, Spring. Creek, and Dry Creek; (2) the City has been
active in the past with public open space that has natural area values
associated with it (i.e., Martinez Park, Larimer County's McMurray Natural
Area, Gustav Swanson Natural Area, City Park, Grandview Cemetery, Ross Open
Space and parts of Rolland Moore Park.); and (3) these areas were not
ignored in the previous analysis and there are a number of high priority
sites already identified.
Shoemaker stated that there are some additional natural area sites
that do merit some additional evaluation (i.e., portion of Low Dry Creek).
At the same time, there are some areas that are classified as natural
areas, but because of restriction on the way they are laid out staff does
think that there is much value in trying to acquire them.
Shoemaker stated that beyond the areas that would classify at the
present as a natural area staff, Manci looked at other areas in terms of
whether they make sense to acquire for habitat creation projects; some did
and some did not. There were some key areas that do have some potential
(i.e., Spring Creek.) So staff identified some of those. He said that
staff is also looking at how they might relate to education opportunities
about wildlife habitat.
Another area that staff looked at was the opportunity to do several
things with various City Departments (i.e., places where stormwater is
looking at a potential channel or detention pond.)
At this time Shoemaker asked Boardmembers for their concerns and
comments.
Johnson stated that this represented a tremendous piece of work and
would really like Karen Manci to hear how much the Board appreciated her
work.
Johnson stated that with regard to Spring Creek to the east of College
between Stover and Lemay, there are a number of pasture areas that would
make good additions. Shoemaker answered that staff will go all the way
over to Lemay and extend the inventory.
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Johnson commented that with regard to the policy suggestions he feels
that both of them are easy to understand and the idea is to acquire and
restore lands. He strongly supports them.
Howard agreed with Johnson.
Chojnacki asked if there needs to be something in there that says, "to
spread the required acquisitions more evenly throughout the City as well"?
Shoemaker answered no, that in other areas there are lands with existing
resource value that are available. Other areas of focus are: major
habitats along the foothills, Fossil Creek area and the Poudre River.
Smith commented that instead of distributing them evenly, one of the
areas of major concern is the entire River Corridor. The River Corridor if
done correctly, serves the west side neighborhood, east side neighborhood,
Alta Vista, and Buckingham. It does not make sense to try and preserve
small areas, that would be better in the hands of Parks and Recreation as
an undeveloped park as opposed to a natural area. So concentrate on the
major segments. He has no problem with the policy language, but thinks
everyone needs to keep the basic picture in mind that the effort to acquire
a lot of little areas comes at the expense of building a more cohesive
system of larger areas. McGee and Swope agreed.
Shoemaker stated that Council also echoed the Board's sentiments that
some of these might be more categorized as open space but not natural
areas. Between the several departments engaged in open land activities,
there is a need to look at the funding available and try and apply that to
some of these areas as well. Council also mentioned the notion of having
walking access for citizens like the Neighborhood Park concept.
Friedman stated that he liked the idea of emphasizing restoration of
some of these areas because within the core area that is one of the
definite constraints. Some of these areas may need to be acquired because
of their importance, but they also may need to be restored because they
were trashed.
Johnson moved and Mcgee seconded that the Natural Resources Board
endorse the additions on the NAPP as stated on the bottom of page five of
the report.
Shoemaker restated that the Board also wanted to convey the message
that " This is fine, but let's don't dilute the effort from the larger
contiguous areas." The Board agreed.
The motion was unanimously approved.
Reovalinc update
At the December 8, 1993 NRAB meeting Shoemaker presented a draft
report on the recycling program and Boardmembers gave their
recommendations. Shoemaker presented the draft report, along with Board's
recommendations to Council at their worksession on December 28, 1993.
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Council strongly concurred with the Board on implementing the short
term changes that were discussed with respect to the current ordinance and
with respect to the education programs. Although Council did not say for
staff to go ahead and develop the long term alternative plan, they did not
throw out the idea either.
Council did agree to shift the focus from what has been an emphasis on
recycling alone to integrated waste management and waste reduction. The
direction that Shoemaker received was to go to the NRAB and the community
and set some waste reduction goals, and let those goals drive the program
structure and the implementation steps needed.
One step that Council does want to see is some data relative to the
truck traffic (1) the effects of all the trucks on the streets - air,
noise, wear on the streets etc. to see if it supports the assumed concerns,
and (2) a survey of citizen concern relative to the traffic.
Staff will be coming back to the Board with ordinance changes for
short term types of things and will be putting together a detailed work
program.
Smith recommended that this subject be referred to the Recycling
Committee.
Annual Report
The Annual Report is due to the City Clerk's office January 15, 1994.
Shoemaker drafted a report and asked that Boardmembers review it and call
or fax Bothwell with their changes or comments by January 12 1994.
Education Committee Report
Friedman talked with Councilmember Kneeland and faxed her a memo
regarding the reorganization of the Environmental Action Awards and she was
very supportive of it. She did recommend that the timing issues with the
schools would be hard to work with. She said that the involvement of other
Boards is a good idea, but that most Boards have enough on their agendas
and probably would not be interested, except for those Boards that have a
specific relationship to what the NRAB is doing. She liked the idea of the
awards being presented at the Environmental Fair and liked the idea of
basing it on categories rather than the type of individuals or group
involved.
Friedman rewrote the memo and it was included in the Board's packet
and also presented to Council.
Smith stated that the memo is clear. He stated that under categories
there may not be submissions for awards in all those categories and the
committee should make it clear that awards will not necessarily be given in
each category. He recommended that "Land Use" may need a little more
explanation or clarification.
Ryszard stated that if the awards were a little bit more clear in the
whole community's mind, they could provide more visible recognition in
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businesses (i.e., Better Business Bureau plaques.) He suggested some type
of logo that would be recognizable and allow people who see it to say "oh
this business received an environmental award." He recommend presenting
the award to businesses/groups who take environmental action on an ongoing
basis instead of only as a short time effort.
Shoemaker stated that changing the venue is going to help, but there
also is a need to give some serious thought to publicity and recognition.
Friedman stated that the committee will meet and present more ideas
for larger recognition at the February 2 meeting.
Committee Report
Smith stated that the Larimer County Environmental Advisory Board met
and there will be a "VISTA" Review at Norlarco Credit Union, 700 Whalers
Way on January 11, 1994 at 6:30 p.m. The reason for the meeting is that
Larimer County will be trying to get together a focus group that will meet
every Tuesday until March to get all of the details worked out as to what
might be considered in design requirements for improving/maintaining the
visual integrity of our horizon.
Smith announced that a manufacturer of Electronic Boards has come to
town and is talking to the county about "givebacks" or incentives for
locating here. There will be siting concerns regarding the effects on air
quality, because most electronic manufacturers have some set of volatile
organic compounds that can create a problem.
He stated that there was discussion of the BPI Protection Bill in
Grand Junction and gave Kudos to City Council for their action. The bill
would make it so that no government entity could force somebody to pay a
city fee for trash hauling if they have hired a private contractor. It
would put the Loveland program, Thornton's program, and any of the programs
that have high success rates out of business.
Shoemaker announced that the Loveland -- Fort Collins Corridor Study
is proceeding. There were focus groups that worked through the Fall and
they got to a certain point. A new task force is now being formed to
continue the effort of taking the initial concepts and trying to come up
with a preferred alternative and implementation plan. Larimer County is
accepting applications now.
Announcements
Friedman stated that there was an article regarding the Joe Wright
Reservoir Special Use Permit in the December 23 1993, issue of the Triangle
Review.
Friedman stated there was an article in the December 30, 1993 issue of
the Rocky Mountain News re: a new product for sanding streets "Realied
Plus." The ceramic rock product is advantageous because there is less salt
used, it is light so it does not damage paint and windows of cars, and it
does not crumble so it reduces air pollution. It is being experimentally
used in different cities in the Denver metro area. He suggested that the
Transportation Department look at it.
Smith announced that C4 will meet January 10, 1994. Rick Ensdorff,
Transportation Department will be present to talk about what Transportation
plans are for the City and region.
Smith stated that the City has done almost nothing since the beginning
of December to keep the bikeways useable for bicyclists. Several members
of C4 have called the pothole patrol number and Dave Stringer with the
Engineer Department and nothing is being done. Shoemaker recommended that
a service request be sent to the City Manager's office.
Shoemaker announced that mid March is peak time for the Sandhill Crane
migration in Central Nebraska. The Audubon Society holds a conference each
year including field trips and he proposed some kind of a City sponsored
long weekend field trip to view the habitats firsthand and get a look at
some of the other water developments. Some boardmembers said they would be
interested in going.
Shoemaker announced that the Board and the Natural Resources Division
will meet at Bisetti's at 5:30 p.m. for dinner before the February 2 NRAB
meeting.
Aiournment
The meeting was adjourned at 9:15
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