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MINUTES
CITY OF FORT COLLINS
NATURAL RESOURCES ADVISORY BOARD
REGULAR MEETING
281 CONFERENCE ROOM - 281 N. COLLEGE AVE.
JUNE 1, 1994
For Reference: Bill Miller, NRAB Chair - 493-7693
Chris Kneeland, Council liaison - 221-2950
Tom Shoemaker, Staff liaison - 221-6263
Boardmembers Present
Bill Miller, Craig McGee, Don Tidd, Katy Mason, Phil Murphy, Phil Friedman, Tim
Johnson, Hal Swope, Lisa Howard
Staff Present
Tom Shoemaker, Karen Manci, Rob Wilkinson, Dennis Sumner
Guests Present
Jerry Craig (CDOW), Jay Hopper (PRPA), Ann Yang, Mark Schultheiss, Bob Kulovany
The meeting was preceded by a field trip to visit the Cathy Fromme Prairie and adjacent
lands. During the field trip, Shoemaker outlined for the Board the boundaries of the Fromme
Prairie, and the status of development proposals in the vicinity.
The formal Board meeting was called to order at 7:05 pm.
Ag=yal of Minutes
It was moved by Hal Swope and seconded by Craig McGee to accept the minutes of
the May 4, 1994, NRAB meeting. Corrections were made to the minutes on pages 4, 11 and
15 and the corrected minutes were approved unanimously.
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Tom Shoemaker stated that the reason that this item was on their agenda was to (1)
obtain preliminary thoughts from the Board regarding the potential for additional land
acquisition around the Cathy Fromme Prairie, and (2) in response to requests from citizens to
address the Board regarding development issues in the vicinity. He noted that background
information had been provided in the packet and in the field. He wanted the Board to hear
recommendations from Jerry Craig, State Raptor Biologist for the Colorado Division of
Wildlife, to ask questions, and to provide recommendations to staff. Shoemaker noted that
he was seeking board input at this time because the situation is delicate in that development
proposals are proceeding in the area, the City has already spent a lot of money in the area
and there are important issues regarding impacts on birds of prey, based on some new
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information.
Jerry Craig of the Colorado Division of Wildlife gave an overview concerning the
bald eagle night roost recently discovered on the Robbins property, south of the proposed
Fossil Creek Estates development site. Jerry noted that the eagle roost came as a surprise
because they typically roost in more remote areas. He reported that the number of bald
eagles is up nationally and 1,250 were in Colorado last winter, with 21 nesting pairs. With
time and expansion of the bald eagle population, the City could probably expect to get a
nesting pair within the next 5-10 years.
Jerry said that a 1/4 mile minimum buffer is generally recommended around eagle
night roost sites, but that in this case a 1,200 foot minimum buffer was probably adequate
since the birds are already roosting within that distance of existing development. He felt that
a 1,200 foot distance would probably ensure the continued use of the site as a night roost.
He said that relocating the night roost also would probably not cause the bald eagles to
abandon the area.
McGee asked if eagles are affected by the physical barrier of housing. Craig said that
they usually fly over housing development and noted that eagles seem to be getting more
adapted to urban development, noting that they are using day perch sites in the middle of the
Ridge development. He noted that the road for the Fossil Creek project may affect use of
the hillside in the southeast part of the Fromme Prairie and noted that it would be nice to
have the Phase I area as an observation area, with seasonal closure near the roost from mid -
November until mid -March. He noted that information is sketchy as to whether this is a
long-term use, and said the roost site could be abandoned, even if no development occurs.
Craig said that his first preferred recommendation was for Phase I not to develop and
be used as an observation site, and his second preferred recommendation is for Phase I to
develop, but not Phases II and III. Criag responded to a question about density of housing
by saying that the density of development probably did not matter, but that development
should be oriented away from the roost site. In response to a question, Craig explained that
there is a difference between a night roost site and a day perch. He said that eagles seem to
be much more selective of night roost sites and more sensitive to disturbances at these sites.
Tom Shoemaker remarked that when the City purchased the Cathy Fromme Prairie,
they tried to acquire as much of the prairie dog colony as they could and that the priority site
for further acquisition was the property north of the Hahn property to Harmony road. The
half section east of the landfill is an important feeding area, also.
In response to a question from Shoemaker regarding relative priority, Jerry Craig said
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that the loss of the night roost next to Fossil Creek Estates PUD would not mean the loss of
eagle and hawk feeding areas on the Fromme Prairie, but the loss of the N. Hahn property
and half section east of the landfill as a feeding area could greatly diminish eagle and hawk
use in this area. In Jerry's opinion, the N. Hahn property is the most important to acquire,
followed by the half section east of the landfill, and last the Fossil Creek Estates PUD (all
phases).
Miller said the situation presents a dilemma with the conflict between development
and the natural system and the tradeoffs among various parts of the City.
Johnson asked Shoemaker if staff was talking to landowners. Shoemaker said that
staff was, but in a preliminary way. Staff is looking for feedback from the Board because
the asking price for all of this land would be in the $4 million range, which is 1/3 of the
Natural Area's acquisition budget.
Katy Mason asked if it was possible to delay Phases II and III in order to study the
roost site for another winter. Tom Shoemaker responded that, in that case, staff should
recommend denial at this time. He noted that development of Phases II and III could be
problematic because the County recently denied the Seven Springs PUD and Phases II and III
would have connected to an access road in that development.
Ann Yang commented that if Phase II and III are being considered for delay, then
Phase I should be considered for denial now, also.
Tom Shoemaker noted that because a federal permit is required for the project
(Section 404 Permit under the Clean Water Act), a review by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife
Service will be required. He noted that the time frame for this review is unknown but could
be as long as six months.
McGee asked if the developer had purchased the land. Shoemaker said yes, and
noted that the purchase price was $8,000. He noted that the developer has said he does not
want to sell the land, but if he considered it the price would need to be in the range of
$27,000 to $32,000 per acre.
Katy Mason called for staff recommendations, to which Rob Wilkinson replied that
there was not a firm cause for denial of Phase I, given the CDOW and consultant report.
Tom Shoemaker replied that the City has responsibility to grant an easement for the proposed
road so that it would lineup with Fossil Creek Drive. He noted that there is an existing
easement to expand Shields Street onto the Cathy Fromme Prairie. Mason commented that
the road is the most disturbing part of the development and Friedman noted that there is a
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difference between the City expanding Shields for the community and granting an easement
for the benefit of one developer.
Hal Swope asked if the developer would continue Phase I if Phase II and III were
denied, to which Tom Shoemaker replied that the developer has said he would. Some of
these issues are coming up really late in his planning process.
Miller commented that there was a fairness question here and that we shouldn't pull
the rug out from under developers after they've invested their money. There is no guarantee
that the eagles will be displaced.
Tim Johnson suggested that the City should receive the two lots bordering the
Fromme Prairie in exchange for the easement and said this should be a requirement for City
approval on Phase I. Wilkinson said that this couldn't be made a condition of approval
unless we showed that the lots were adversely impacting the natural area. The question is a
separate issue of compensation for the easement, or acquisition of part of the property.
Shoemaker noted that he wanted to explore that option further with the developer in
discussion of compensation for the easements.
Bob Kulovany handed out data on raptors using the night roost and urged the Board
not to allow development of the Fossil Creek Estates PUD. He said he felt the City was
frittering away the Fromme Prairie if the development goes in. He said that if Phase I goes
in, then Phases II and II will also and we'll lose eagle use, and asked what is the point of the
natural area if we don't preserve eagle use. He also observed that, with more people living
adjacent to the Fromme Natural Area, there would be increased pressure to eradicate prairie
dogs.
Don Tidd noted that he lives in a subdivision with prairie dogs all around and there is
no pressure to eradicate them.
Mark Schultheiss said that these issues should not be dealt with until a management
plan is complete.
Miller asked for the sense of the Board. Tidd said he felt people were out to get this
development. Murphy said that we need to look at this from an ecosystem management
perspective. Swope asked if the Board should recommend denial of the road easement.
McGee said the City should work toward an equitable solution. Friedman said he felt the
City should attempt to acquire all phases.
Bill Miller asked when development was first proposed. Tom Shoemaker replied that
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a r to acquisition of the Fromme Prairie. Bill Miller suggested reimbursing the
fer for land costs and costs acquired so far. Tom Shoemaker addefor
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east of the landfill could wait, but N. Hahn will probably be proposed
lopment within six months. Craig McGee stated that it is better to acquire land in larger
eves.
Mason said there are too many unknowns regarding the effect of the development and
there shouldn't be pressure to accomodate the developer. Kulovaney said its important to Iet
developer know if there are impediments to the development.
Johnson moved that the Board recommend to Council and the Planning and Zoning
Board that Phase I be denied until staff and the Board have had opportunities to gather
further information on environmental impact and pursue options for purchase or trade of the
property.
Wilkinson said that he had a hard time recommending staff denial and wanted to make
clear that the Board recommendation did not mean staff would recommend the same position.
Shoemaker agreed and said that the Board should represent itself at the Planning and Zoning
Board.
Kulovany asked if it wasn't staff's role to be advocates and Wilkinson replied that
there are several departments and perspectives used to form the staff opinion. Shoemaker
said he would need to review the Natural Resources perspective with his staff and staff from
other areas.
Tidd asked what the time frame for the delay would be? Mason said she didn't know
but a delay was needed. Miller stressed the City investment in the Fromme property.
McGee asked if Planning and Zoning could require a delay. Shoemaker said that a
recommendation for a long delay was equivalent to denial, and that its best to make
recommendations based on the information at hand.
Kulovany said he felt there were criteria in the LDGS that would not be met.
Shoemaker said the applicable criterion is community wide criterion A-1.3.
Johnson withdrew his motion. Friedmann moved that the Natural Resources Advisory
Board recommend to Council and the Planning and Zoning Board to deny Phase I of the
Fossil Creek Estates P.U.D. based on the potential environmental impacts of the project that
would be contrary to Community Wide Criterion A-1.3 of the Land Development Guidance
System and its proposed encroachment on the Cathy Fmmme Prairie.
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Tim Johnson seconded, and the motion passed with Craig McGee and Don Tidd
opposed.
Phil Friedman then proposed that the Natural Resources Advisory Board recommend
that Natural Resources staff pursue negotiation for outright purchase or trade of Phase I, H,
and III of the Fossil Creek Estates P.U.D. The concern of the Board is that the development
of Phases I, II, and III would encroach on the Cathy Fromme Prairie.
Tim Johnson seconded, and the motion passed unanimously with no further
discussion.
Dennis Sumner from Light and Power introduced Jay Hopper from PRPA and said
that they were present to give the Board information on the Integrated Resources Planning
process being used by PRPA to assess future power needs and options for meeting those
needs. He noted that this is a long-term process, but there is an immediate issue that needs a
decision this fall. He said there will be a public open house on the IRP on Monday June 13
from 6 p.m. until 9 p.m. at Boltz Junior High.
Sumner summarized the concepts behind IRP, noting that it really is taking a more
holistic, broad view at issues of power supply. In the past, utilities met demand; now, they
are looking at other ways of meeting energy needs. He noted that this type of planning is a
legal requirement of the National Energy Policy Act of 1992 and that City Council has
adopted policies to direct the Light and Power Utility to use IRP approaches in its planning.
He noted that the federal requirement is on PRPA and the Western Area Power
Administration, as power suppliers. He said the City purchases power only from PRPA,
along with Loveland, Longmont, and Estes Park.
In the immediate future, the PRPA needs to deal with issues of supplying peaking
supply in the future and the PRPA Board needs to make a decision on the best way of
meeting that need. The PRPA is trying to use the IRP process to solve the need.
Hopper provided an overview of the PRPA system, its supply sources, and how it
functions. He said the concern over peak supply comes about due to changes in the supply
available from WAPA, due to operational changes required at the Glen Canyon Dam. He
said the operational changes are coming about because of concerns about the effects of the
dam operations on the Grand Canyon, including issues related to erosion, archaeological
resources, and threatened and endangered species. Hopper reviewed various options for
meeting the shortfall in peaking power-
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Following the presentation there was extensive discussion of the program. Johnson
asked if natural gas options were being looked at and Sumner stated that L&P is working
with PSCo to develop options for providing natural gas service in areas where it doesn't exist
currently. Tidd asked about the overall impact of the National Energy Act on utilities, and
Hopper said he predicts we will see a dramatic decline in the number of electric utilities in
the country.
Craig McGee noted that the IRP is to develop the least cost process. There is no
requirement to change how power is generated.
There was further discussion on peak usages, DSM, and variable rates (i.e., one for
summer, one for winter). One response was made that a resource peak is needed year
round.
The Board thanked Sumner and Hopper for the information on IRP. There was a
reminder of the open house on June 13.
There will be a tour of the Larimer County Recycling Center on Thursday, June 16,
starting at 4:00 pm.
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The meeting adjourned at 10:26 pm.
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