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CITY OF FORT COLLINS
NATURAL RESOURCES ADVISORY BOARD
JOINT MEETING WITH PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD
281 CONFERENCE ROOM - 281 N. COLLEGE AVE.
DECEMBER 7, 1994
For Reference: Phil Friedman, NRAB Chair - 493-2959
Chris Kneeland, Council Liaison - 221-2950
Tom Shoemaker, Staff Liaison - 221-6263
Natural Resources Board Members Present
Lisa Steffes, Bill Miller, Phil Murphy, Katy Mason, Arlene Blum, Phil Friedman, Tim Johnson
Natural Resources Board Members Absent
Don Tidd (excused) and Craig McGee (excused)
Parks and Recreation Board Members Present
Sylvia Cranmer, Marilyn Barnes, Mary Ness, Eric Reno, Rich Feller, Jessica MacMillan, Diane
Thies, Rebecca Chavez, Jerry Garretson
Staff Present
Tom Shoemaker, Sally Maggart, Mike Powers, Jackie Rael, Jon Ruiz, Brian Woodruff
SPECIAL JOINT MEETING WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD
The meeting was called to order at 5:50 p.m.
Review of Prospective Natural Area Acquisitions, Tom Shoemaker
Tom Shoemaker explained he is seeking formal recommendation from both boards on
five of the six upcoming acquisition proposals. He further explained that the 8.7 acre addition
to Bridges Natural Area is still in negotiation and will be back for approval in January or
February.
Shoemaker distributed a Natural Areas Acquisition Fund Budget Summary. He noted
there have been 1,263 acres acquired to date with 1,094 acres designated for prospective
acquisition. He gave a brief description of each proposed acquisition site.
I. Harmony Gateway Site
This is a high priority site with good potential for passive recreational use and an
appraised market value of $1.6 million. It has a total of 277.5 acres including 45
agricultural acres. The State Land Board is interested in purchasing some of the
developable acreage.
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There are billboards located on the property that generate $60,000 a year income.
Shoemaker needs the boards' recommendations on keeping the signs and using the
income for natural area sites.
H. Fossil Creek Wetlands
This is 236 acres located outside of the southeastern city limits. One quarter section is
already owned by the city as a special improvement district. Shoemaker noted both
boards previously recommended partial purchase.
III. Additions to Cathy Fromme Prairie
& IV. These are two prospective acquisitions that were considered high priority sites initially
and have additional impetus because of the Fort Collins Loveland Corridor Study. The
80 acres on the south side of the Cathy Fromme Prairie, east of Shields, is priced at $6-
7,000 an acre based on appraisals. Funding will be through a $250,000 GO Colorado
Grant, $60,000 from Larimer County and $250,000 from the City of Fort Collins.
The other addition is 180 acres east of Shields to the north of the existing Fromme
Prairie priced at $1.8 million ($10,000 an acre). It has native grassland and bald eagle
roost sites. There is discussion on a 40 acre land exchange with the developer of Fossil
Creek Estates Phases II and III.
V. 8.7 Acre Addition to Bridges Natural Area
This will be brought back to the boards. The city owns 12-15 acres in the area and
wants to consolidate a larger area. The price per acre is higher ($23,636 per acre/net)
because it is in the core area of town. There is strong support from the neighborhood
for acquisition of the site, together with development of an adjacent site.
VI. 274 Acres of Gravel Mined Land
This is located in the northwest part of the city along the Poudre River. Western Mobile
will assume responsibility for water augmentation and all the gravel purchase. The
purchase price is $1,000 per acre.
Shoemaker asked for formal action by both boards, noting that any substantial changes
will be brought back for review.
Marilyn Barnes, Parks and Recreation Board, moved to purchase Proposals I, II, III, IV
and VI. Diane Thies seconded.
Tim Johnson, Natural Resources Board, moved to recommend the purchase of Proposals
I, II, III IV and VI. Bill Miller seconded.
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The following questions and concerns were discussed:
1. It was asked if money is set aside for maintenance. Shoemaker said a substantial portion
of the last year's funding of the 'k cent sales tax will be used for long term maintenance.
2. It was recommended that a council resolution include further investigation before making
the final determination on selling land to the State Land Board at the Harmony Gateway site.
3. The Bridges acquisition is a high priority as it is in the center of the city.
4. The question was asked if the timing on acquisitions will be appropriate with the new
council in April. It was agreed to take advantage of the opportunities now.
5. There were concerns about the shortage of funds and what happens in 1995. Shoemaker
noted the following options:
a. Purchase now and close next year.
b. Ask a group like Trust for Public Lands for financing to be paid back later.
c. Borrow from another city fund that has reserves.
A vote of the Natural Resources Board was taken and the motion passed unanimously.
A vote of the Parks and Recreation Board was taken and the motion passed unanimously.
Discussion followed on having a policy regarding the billboards located at the Harmony
Gateway site. Mike Powers said there is a cap limiting the number of billboards in the city
limits. When any are taken down, they can go up somewhere else in the city. He pointed out
that revenue would be lost that could be used for the natural areas fund as maintenance money
if the billboards are removed. Shoemaker said a motion is needed to pursue the issue of
retaining or removing billboards and selling off developable land. Council needs to be aware
of the concerns of the boards.
Jessica MacMillan moved that both boards express a concern to council to take a look
at the use of billboards on the purchase of the property. The motion died for lack of a second.
It was decided that both boards would work on this in the future and that staff will bring back
more information from the city attorney's office.
The joint meeting was adjourned at 7:00 p.m.
REGULAR BOARD MEETING
The meeting was called to order at 7:10 p.m.
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Introduction of Guests
Kelly Ohlson was introduced.
Approval of Minutes
Bill Miller moved and Lisa Steffes seconded the motion to approve the minutes of ae
special recycling meeting held November 1, 1994. Phil Friedman asked to include in the
minutes that his absence was excused. The motion passed unanimously.
After making the following changes, Tim Johnson move,_ ad Phil Friedman seconds;,;
the motion that the minutes of the November 9, 1994 meeting be approved; the motion passed
unanimously.
Miller noted a typographical error at the bottom of page 5; "be" development should read
"by" development.
Friedman clarified that on Page 7, 1995 Workplan Development, committee chairs were
to provide information from individual board members and were to call that information
into Tom, with the final step being that the board approve the final version.
Johnson wanted "would not be considered a significant criteria for access" to replace
"would not allow access" on the second to last paragraph on page 4.
Report on POST 2001 Vote, Kelly Ohlson
Ohlson reported that POST 2001 was defeated by an overall vote of 53 percent to 47
percent, with over 55 percent voting for it in Fort Collins. Loveland's vote was 37 percent for
it, while outlying area of the county were at 39 percent. He felt the natural areas support is
growing in the right direction and thought some of the reasons for defeat were attributed to early
voting, no ballot title, Amendment One language, complicated ballots and organized opposition.
It will be back on the ballot in 1945 with some revisions.
Mason asked how Loveland's opposition will be overcome. Ohlson said focus groups
will help address the fear that Fort Collins will get all of the money and there will be more
specifics regarding the areas desired. Miller asked how much of the negative vote was du, to
anti -tax vs property rights. Ohlson felt this was not just a "no" on taxes, but an overall "no"
on everything. Johnson expressed concern that 1995 is an off -election year and more anti -tax
people will go to the polls.
Mason wanted to know the effect on the 1/4 cent sales tax renewal. Ohlson said having
it on the 1995 ballot will separate the two issues. Friedman noted four seats on the school board
will be contested on the 1995 ballot and that should bring a good turnout. Steffes felt there is
a need to lobby the county clerk to put titles on the ballot.
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Johnson recognized that the voting reflects the outstanding job Shoemaker and the Natural
Resource Division staff are doing on natural areas. He noted the Master Naturalist program will
help with the education process.
Review of Recycling Worksession and Recommendations, Kelly Ohlson
Ohlson reported that there was citizen discontent at the City Council worksession on
recycling. He felt there were no significant changes presented on the issues of trash hauling and
recycling. He said charging for recycling is negative and true costs need to be charged,
otherwise education will have no impact.
Jon Ruiz said that part of the board's recommendation to council concerned the
importance of "pay as you throw" and an ordinance would be needed for that. He explained
"bundling" is where trash and recycling services are included in one fee.
Ohlson felt staff did not make a forceful presentation on districting. Johnson asked if
information from the board had been sent to council. Shoemaker said the board minutes were
sent to council and Craig McGee attended the worksession. He noted council did take
significant steps for changes in recycling, consolidating neighborhoods, and designing a compost
facility.
Johnson said even though the board information was sent to council, he thought it would
be more forceful to write a letter addressing the key points. Johnson moved to send a letter to
council stating that the recycling policy include bundling, pay as you throw, utility study,
districting and recovering the total cost for street damage. Steffes seconded the motion.
Mason suggested the letter should be more specific about recovering costs and stress the
need to initiate the study. Friedman suggested redirecting council to the minutes where the
board recommended proceeding with the study. Shoemaker recommended sending a letter as
soon as possible as the information for an ordinance change will be presented at the January
council meeting.
A vote on the motion to send a letter to council was taken and the motion passed
unanimously. Shoemaker will write the letter for Friedman's approval and it will go in council's
packet next Thursday.
Congestion Management Plan Recommendations, Brian Woodruff
Brian Woodruff, Environmental Planner, explained that no formal action is required by
the board on this plan. Board comments received will be recorded in the minutes and included
in a listening log to be sent to council.
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Using a slide presentation, Woodruff explained the project. He noted the main technical
work resulted in seven scenarios of computer modeling of transportation and land use; no
scenarios met the city goals for congestion or air quality.
He further explained that vehicle travel is growing at 3.6 percent while population is
growing at only 2.8 percent. There are 1.9 million vehicle miles travelled (VMTs) per day in
Fort Collins.
Woodruff noted.that expanding roadways has been the main focus in controlling traffic
congestion, but there is a need to reduce vehicle travel and increase walking, cycling, car pools,
Transfort use and telecommuting. The present street system cannot be ignored; there is a need
to invest in maintenance and expand streets as well as a need to work on alternative
transportation.
He said Transportation Demand Management (TDM) is the focus with the recently
formed Transportation Service Area. More data is needed on travel behavior and how to
measure success.
Woodruff explained the activity center concept that targets certain parts of the city for
higher density, mixed use development. This concept has multi -family housing, jobs, and retail
stores in the same area and uses design elements to enhance walking, biking, etc. He said City
Council's next step is to adopt the congestion management plan, approve a work plan on activity
centers, urban design and TDM, and continue a public participation process.
Miller asked if there is enough space inside the city for activity centers. Woodruff stated
there is space available. The planning department staff is looking at undeveloped and partially
developed land and there is land capable of absorbing all commercial, job and multi -family
growth through 2015. Mason asked if the activity center concept would be a charge of the
comprehensive plan. Woodruff said it would.
He noted that the role of the citizen is to drive no more than they are currently and
increase walling, cycling, carpooling, Transfort riding and telecommuting. The city's role is
in the area of finance and growth management as well as studying activity centers, urban design
and land use regulations. Friedman felt activity centers are an urban concept and people choose
to live in this community to get away from that core urban feel.
Johnson said that recognizing the need for minimum service for other alternatives is a
big step forward. He would like to see the use of other terms for an automobile, such as "pmi"
(personal mobile incinerator) in order to get people thinking in terms of what they are doing.
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Mason asked how much of the VMT increase is due to the physical size of the city and
growth. Woodruff said there is evidence from all over the country that VMT is growing faster
than the population; part of it is because the average trip is longer, but there are other factors,
e.g., increase in two -wage earners families and increasing affluence (best predictor of miles
traveled is expendable income). He added that while the average household size is shrinking,
each household has two cars and the number of driver's licenses is increasing along with car
ownership.
Mason asked about the different scenarios that failed the goal for air quality and asked
if other emission standards were considered. Woodruff said current and projected improvements
under the Clean Air Act were used. Denver's emission standards were not used.
Miller asked if Denver's standards are more stringent. Woodruff responded that starting
in January they will be more stringent due to federal mandates on lowering emissions. Fort
Collins has been in compliance with federal standards and has not been mandated. Shoemaker
noted there is a project to look at having something like that in Fort Collins.
Blum asked if malls will be required to provide bike access. Woodruff said there is work
being done on a bicycle plan to address that. While it is not plausible to allow bikes on College,
north -south routes will be designated in the plan to allow access to College.
Friedman noted that since the infrastructure was in place prior to understanding the
problem with automobiles, the need is to address problems that are insurmountable due to
infrastructure. Woodruff said that is part of cost that has been identified. Johnson felt having
this plan in place will be helpful in increasing awareness.
Woodruff commented on urban density and how the activity center would focus on the
multi -family concept, new job growth and new retail within the activity center. Miller asked
about NIMBY and problems arising with the location of activity centers. He felt there is a need
for marketing the concept to make it real for people. Woodruff said the plan would take some
of the NIMBY problems away from current neighborhoods by putting activity centers into
neighborhoods well served with urban design. Miller was concerned the multi -family concept
would not incorporate low income housing.
Friedman asked if the plan will be modified. Woodruff said it is intended to be adopted
as is although there could be some call for a more detailed work program and further
development.
Johnson noted the lane change on Remington and Mountain has made travel easier. He
added that repainting a street is not a major outlay of money to make bike travel safer.
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Miller suggested an enhanced effort to put the statistics in front of the public. Mason
agreed that the average citizen does not understand the situation and the city needs to be a leader
in education awareness. Murphy felt people do understand there is a problem, but need to know
what to do about it. Johnson felt the issue of subsidized parking is not being addressed; instead
of accommodating everyone, it needs to be stopped.
Fort Collins Loveland Corridor Area Plan, Tom Shoemaker
Shoemaker noted there is renewed focus in developing a land use plan for the corridor
between Fort Collins and Loveland. It is a team effort between the city, Larimer County and
Loveland, with Larimer County as the lead. Physical separation is the goal with additional
objectives centered around the concern about natural areas, viewscape and agricultural. The
timeline is to have a full draft of the plan out by the end of the year. There will be a joint
meeting late in January for the hearing and approval process. Mason asked when there would
be public input. Shoemaker said it would be after the draft plan is completed.
Shoemaker reported that a natural areas inventory has been done. Rod Rieman, working
for the Natural Resources Division, did the Larimer County area and a private consultant was
hired by Loveland. The two data sets were merged. The baseline data collection also looked
at development constraints and the only infrastructure constraint is on the western side.
Shoemaker explained the key is to highlight the open space on the west side connecting
existing areas. Another goal is to extend the prairie area and protect the complex of habitats
along the major travel corridors. He pointed out that Fossil Creek has a significant large
conservation area. Mason was confused about what is there and what is proposed; she thought
there was development around the reservoir. Shoemaker explained that there are some houses
on 35 acre tracts, but no active development proposals. There is significant interest by
landowners in developing the area.
Shoemaker noted the Fort Collins -Loveland Airport is an important planning influence
because of low density guidelines in the airport area. The plan will make sure large functional
open space area are maintained.
Friedman was concerned about the corridor residents and finding funds to purchase the
land. He wanted to know how the plan relates to POST 2001. Shoemaker said there are good
techniques that can work, ranging from zoning changes to fee acquisition. Acquisition will be
aimed at key parcels. Defeat of POST 2001 certainly hurt the ability to move ahead soon with
land acquisition.
Steffes said it is an excellent plan and has been a long time in coming. Friedman felt the
plan has good flow. Miller asked if there was any consideration given for expansion by
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Windsor. Tom said it is a complex area with a lot of activity and there is a separate effort
between the two counties to define it.
Committee Reports
GROWTH MANAGEMENT: No report.
EDUCATION: Friedman reported that the committee met last week and talked about getting
more candidates and nominees for the Environmental Awards. Edith Felchle will report to the
committee in January. There is a possibility that there will be no environmental fair next year
so there will be a need for another venue for the award presentation. Since attendance was
down this year, it was decided maybe it was time to do something different.
RECYCLING: McGee absent.
NATURAL AREAS: No report.
Announcements
Steffes distributed a flier on the Rocky Mountain Raptor Program Open House being held
on December 18.
Shoemaker announced that Parks & Recreation is updating the master plan. The park
staff requested volunteers from the board to sit in on the advisory committee meetings starting
this month; they will be done by April. Johnson said he might be interested.
Friedman reported he met with Chris Kneeland, council liaison. She told him she is
appreciative of the board's involvement and added that as one of the two most active boards, it
has a large responsibility. She offered to sit in with the board in January or February.
Johnson asked if this summer will be the tenth anniversary of the board. Apparently,
Kneeland will contact Shoemaker about that and will lead the effort for an honoring event.
Board Member Don Tidd's attendance was discussed. Mason asked how many meetings
Tidd has missed; Blum asked if it has been discussed with him. Friedman said Tidd has missed
five out of nine meetings this year; one more miss and he will be at 50 percent. Friedman will
discuss this with Tidd in order to get a commitment from him to either not miss any more
meetings or resign from the board. He reminded the members present that in order to be
excused, the chair or staff need to be advised.
Friedman noted the retreat will be rescheduled in January. Also, Blum, Tidd and
Murphy need to meet with Shoemaker and Friedman for the new board member orientation.
Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned at 10:05 p.m.