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MINUTES
CITY OF FORT COLLINS
NATURAL RESOURCES ADVISORY BOARD
REGULAR MEETING
281 CONFERENCE ROOM - 281 N. COLLEGE AVE.
JUNE 5,1996
For Reference: Phil Murphy, NRAB Chair -
491-6303
Gina Janett, Council Liaison -
493-4677
Tom Shoemaker, Staff Liaison -
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Board Members Present
Bill Miller, Phil Murphy, Craig McGee, Kelly Ohlson, Linda Kirkpatrick, Jan Behunek, Phil
Friedman, Katy Mason
Board Members Absent
Ed Secor
Staff Present
Natural Resources DgZ: Tom Shoemaker, Sally Maggart Engineering Dent.: Marc Engemoen and
Mike Herzig; Transportation Services: Ron Phillips Gary Diede, and Kathleen Reavis
Guests
Evan Manvel, citizen
The meeting was called to order at 7:05 p.m.
Review and Approval of Minutes
With the following changes, the minutes of the May 1, 1996 Meeting were approved as written:
Kelly Ohlson said that his announcement on Page 2 should have read "Earth Day" instead
of "birthday".
Jan Behunek clarified that his sentence in the last paragraph on Page 6 referred to the City
Plan, Structure Plan and Master Transportation Plan. He questioned the statement that said
Timberline is part of the CIP. Marc Engemoen explained it was a capital improvement
program but is not part of the current CIP.
Agenda Review
Because of miscommunication, an Advance Planning staffinember was unable to attend. A
memorandum from Peter Wray updating the City Plan Structure Plan was distributed.
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Announcements
Phil Friedman reported that there was a good turnout for the Friends of the Poudre festival.
Recommendation on Timberline Extension, Jan Behunek, Ad -hoc Committee
Boardmember Jan Behunek said that the committee (Linda Kirkpatrick, Phil Murphy, Ed Secor and
Behunek) met with Marc Engemoen, City Engineer, on May 9. He referred to the draft memo in
the board packet and noted that the majority of the committee felt that, if the City is to grow to the
northeast, there is a need for a transportation corridor. The main concern is how the natural area
values will balance out; once Timberline is built, there are certain impacts that cannot be mitigated.
Behunek noted that the committee's recommendation to Council is to proceed with the design phase
of Alternative C and seek additional public comment and review by applicable boards and
commissions prior to authorizing construction. He added that the main details in the memo are to
maintain a wide corridor and restore degraded areas, replace wetland and wildlife habitats, maintain
wildlife movement corridors and minimize light and noise.
Bill Miller said that he agrees with the committee's recommendation. He added that in order for
development to the northeast to happen, something needs to be done now.
Kelly Ohlson said that he would rather go with a "no recommendation". He noted that the
employment centers and major shopping are in the south.
Katy Mason felt that the electorate was confused with the original ballot language. She reported that
there is a petition to get this on the November ballot and let the public vote again. She suggested
that the Board wait until after November 5 to make a decision.
Ohison recommended a memo to Council incorporating suggestions on mitigation concerns and
increasing mitigation funding.
Craig McGee said that he thought the committee conscientiously identified the issues. He added that
thorough public participation generated the executive summary and he felt there was no need for
another vote on the issue. He noted that costs will increase with delays.
Phil Friedman said that Alternative B will provide a north -south arterial and will solve traffic
congestion without fostering growth in the northeast. He added that there will be less development
by not extending Timberline beyond Highway 14. Friedman suggested awaiting the outcome of the
petition.
Miller said that nobody can forecast development in the northeast; it has not yet happened because
of the difficulty in providing utilities. He added that north is the only way growth can go and the
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most favorable alignment of Timberline will provide the opportunity to create employment centers
in the northeast.
Linda Kirkpatrick noted that employment centers were identified in the northeast quadrant in the
City Plan Structure Plan. She added that the intent of the ad -hoc committee was not to argue growth
issues but to provide Council with information on the consensus of the Board.
Phil Murphy said that the committee is not telling Council to go ahead with construction. The
committee wants to see the road design. He added that the issue has already been voted on and
passed by the voters.
Ohlson suggested emphasizing that $150,000 will not be adequate mitigation funding and stressed
that the natural area tax funds will not be used for mitigation. He wants the mitigation concerns to
go to Council this Tuesday. McGee and Miller agreed.
Miller noted that the area will be developed whether or not there is a bridge over the river. He added
that not a lot of natural resources will be lost because of the beet drop area and the rip rap by the
river. He said that building employment centers to the north is a positive action.
Craig McGee made the motion to accept the memorandum as drafted by the committee and send
it to Council with the mitigation concerns outlined Bill Miller seconded the motion. The motion
did not pass with a tie vote (4-4): For: McGee, Miller, Kirkpatrick and Murphy; Against: Ohlson,
Behunek, Mason and Friedman.
Craig McGee moved that the Board does not formally take a position on the Timberline
Extension, however the Board wants to express the following concerns regarding the proposed
extension if and when Timberline is constructed.
• Maintain as large an area of open lands along the river and around the proposed road as
possible.
• Do not increase access to the open lands in the area such that human disturbance becomes
a significant impact
• Enhance the wildlife habitat and natural area values of surrounding lands by restoring areas
that have been degraded in the past
• Replace all wetland, rare plant, and wildlife habitats impacted by the project
• Maintain wildlife movement corridors.
• Assure continued stormwater capacity in a way that maintains or enhances aquatic habitat
• Maintain open views of the foothills and mountains to the west
• Plan lighting of the roadway so that it does not impact adjacent areas.
• Minimize noise impacts on surrounding areas.
• Make the bridge and roadway as attractive as possible from an aesthetic standpoint.
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Katy Mason seconded the motion.
Ohlson proposed a friendly amendment to the motion: Given that the Board did not come to a
majority viewpoint on the proposed Timberline Extension, we want to express the following
concerns regarding the proposed extension if Timberline is constructed..." McGee and Mason
accepted the amendment The motion passed unanimously (8-0).
It was decided to have staff "wordsmith" the memo and Murphy will review it tomorrow.
Behunek asked for a straw poll on board support for a motion opposing the building of the road.
Five board members (Miller, Murphy, McGee, Kirkpatrick and Friedman) could not support the "no
build" Alternative A.
Master Transportation Plan, Transportation Staff
Tom Frazier, Transportation Services, explained the integration of the Pedestrian Plan, the Bikeway
Plan, the Transit Plan and the Parking Plan into the City Plan process. Once standards have been
set for street design, the Master Streets Plan will tie into the Master Transportation Plan. It is
important to think about the street system being for all modes of transportation, not just cars.
Street Standards
Gary Diede, Transportation Services, gave a brief overview of the proposed street standards.
Residential streets will be 30' instead of 36', parkways and sidewalks will be wider, bike lanes and
medians will be added and there will be landscaped strips the whole length of the arterial mile rather
than just at intersections.
Ohlson noted that landscaped medians are aesthetically wonderful, but the costs are very high for
maintenance. Diede responded that the Parks Department estimates it will cost $10,000 a year to
maintain one half mile. Mike Herzig, Engineer, said there is a median streetscape committee
working on the element of maintenance costs depending on the level of landscaping. Phil Murphy
noted that there are valuable reasons for medians, e.g., noise abatement and heat dissipation. Diede
said that ground cover and wood chips would be used instead of grass for water conservation.
Ohlson asked if these standards are requirements or suggestions. Diede responded that this will be
the new street standard; 36' will no longer be allowed except on collector streets. Linda Kirkpatrick
asked why there were no bike lanes on connector streets. Herzig replied that the proposed traffic
volumes will be light enough on those to allow both bicycles and cars to function.
Phil Friedman asked if thought had been given to the increase in maintenance costs with the addition
of bike lanes and pathways. Diede responded that another sweeper will be purchased and liquid de-
icers will be used instead of sand to reduce unsafe conditions.
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Friedman said it is critical to have better education and enforcement on bicycle safety. Kathleen
Reavis, Transportation Services, said funding has been received for a Bike Education Coordinator.
Craig McGee commented that light bars are used in Canada to illuminate pedestrian pathways.
Kirkpatrick noted that crosswalks are inadequate. Reavis said that the City is looking at the
connectivity and continuity of the system.
Pedestrian Plan
Kathleen Reavis, Transportation Planning, explained that design standards, ordinances, education,
and enforcement components from the pedestrian perspective are included in a comprehensive
pedestrian plan. This is tied to the Master Transportation Plan schedule and should be finished in
August.
Katy Mason noted that right turn lanes make it difficult for pedestrians. She suggested considering
no right turns on red lights with busy pedestrian crosswalks. Reavis said that mid -block crossings
are being considered along with timing lights.
Bill Miller asked if the City can pass an ordinance to give pedestrians the right of way. Reavis
responded "yes". She will check with other communities that have a pedestrian ordinance. She
added that there is a lot more work to do on the plan and she will keep the Board updated.
Master Street Plan Update
Tom Frazier, Transportation Services, said that the Master Street Plan has direct ties to the preferred
Alternative C in the City Plan. He noted that the traffic flow modeling has not been completed.
Frazier explained that changes to Alternative C include more single family in the southeast, limited
rural residential development in the north and elimination of the urban reserve in the south. The big
concern in the Special Study Area is the receiving area for transfer development rights. The County
is looking to trade off other land not being developed.
Frazier noted that this goes to the Council Work Session on June 11 and will be voted on July 2.
Mason suggested having a Growth Management Committee meeting before next Tuesday's Council
Work Session.
Frazier said that he will return to give an update after the June 11 Work Session or he will meet with
the subcommittee. He noted that the Transportation Board is meeting on June 19 and this will be
discussed again then.
Natural Areas Update, Tom Shoemaker
Shoemaker noted that there is a placeholder in the capital improvement process for additional natural
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areas and open lands projects. One of the projects is getting the natural areas and parks into the GIS
data base system. He will give more details at the July meeting.
Shoemaker reported on the following pending acquisitions:
• Not giving up on the areas around Timberline
• Close to contract on two parcels around Pineridge
• Donation of 41 acres of foothills property
• Working on Poudre River acquisition related to the GOCO grant
• Active negotiations in the Wren Pit area
• Nix Farm under contract - will close the end of the year
• Serious negotiations on a 17 acre parcel adjacent to McMurray Ponds. This is generating a lot
of controversy because of the five trailer homes located on the property. An offer has been made
but there is no contract.
• Provincetown is going through the development process. 160 acres would stay in City
ownership.
• Addition of 140 acres to the Cathy Fromme Prairie is under contract with the contingency that
the owners have the ability to pull out if it is not economic viable. There are issues related to the
design. A computer model of the Harmony Ridge development produced by EDAW was
presented.
• Fossil Creek Estates Phase 1 has been sold and will be constructed. Acquisition of Phases 2 and
3 is still viable.
Other Business
Phil Friedman and Phil Murphy will attend the Transportation Board meeting on June 19 at 5:45
p.m.
Bill Miller said he did not know if his term will be extended. If it is not, the Board will need to
appoint a representative to the Larimer County Advisory Board.
Adjournment
The meeting adjourned at 11:25 p.m.