HomeMy WebLinkAboutNatural Resources Advisory Board - Minutes - 09/03/1986MINUTES
CITY OF FORT COLLINS
NATURAL RESOURCES ADVISORY BOARD
SEPTEMBER 3, 1986
7:00 p.m.
Board Members Present:
Suzanne Bassinger Denise LaRue
Scott Duncan Ari Michelsen
Dave DuBois Pat Reed
Bill Fischer Bob Sanz
Board Members Absent (excused):
Gil Fechner Pat Sousa
Tim Johnson
Staff Present:
Roger Krempel Brian Woodruff
Don Yon Edith Felchle
The meeting was called to order at 7:02 p.m. by the Chair.
The Minutes of the August 6, 1986 meeting were unanimously approved as
submitted.
Picnic Rock Review
Bassinger introduced Joe Maurier of the Colorado Division of Parks.
Maurier presented details of the Picnic Rock management plan. He explained
the process used in preparing the Visitation and Revenue page of previously
mailed material. It was noted that Larimer County has committed to install
a toilet at a cost of $10,000 (lottery money), but this will only be done
if a plan is approved to insure management of the area for at least ten
years. In response to the proposed recommendation letter from NRAB to
Council, it was noted that while Fort Collins water utility fees do support
ownership of the land, they do not support management. It was stated that
development will be minimal and will not basically change the looks of the
area. It was stated that the State has fee title ownership of the non -city
land. In response to request for no -fee management, it was stated that the
Division of Parks is required to be at least 60% self-supporting, so it is
impossible to provide no -fee management. They said that perhaps they will
charge the fee from April to September only. Pat Legel, a commercial
rafter, expressed 100% support for the plan. Don Kellett, a private user
of the area, expressed concern because he now can use the area at no cost
but will be required to pay the day -use fee if the plan is implemented. It
was stated that the trade off for the fee is increased fishing. Frank
Lancaster, speaking as a private user of the area, expressed disappointment
that the City had not been involved in the earlier planning on the project.
He stated that he thinks there is potential for serious natural resources
contamination at the site if the area is not properly managed. It was
stated that with this plan, all agencies involved will have more of a
vested interest in the area and hopefully this will lead to better people
control. Maurier asked if the City did not approve this fee plan, would
they subsidize the management plan. Response was that NRAB can only
recommend to Council, but has no decision making power.
The presenters were thanked for their input and were told that NRAB
would go into discussion on the matter and make a recommendation to
Council.
Susan Kirkpatrick was introduced as Council liaison to NRAB.
NRAB continued discussion of the Picnic Rock plan. Staff reported
there will be a committee working on a master management plan for the water
treatment plant site which could include this area but the decision has
been made to defer consideration of this until the replacement water
treatment plant is operational. The plant will not be abandoned until
1988. Reed cited a Forest Service report stating that only 5-10% of the
boating on the river is private, the rest is commercial. Concern was
expressed that this plan would simply push the problem upstream, also that
a safety problem may develop with people parking on the road to avoid the
fee area. It was moved and seconded to rescind the previously adopted
recommendation letter. The vote was 3-5, with Bassinger, LaRue, Fischer,
Michelsen, and Sanz against. Bassinger, Fischer, Sanz and Michelsen voted
against because they felt the present letter was sufficient. LaRue didn't
want her vote to create a tie, so she voted against.
The motion was made and seconded to make certain changes in the
letter. Proposed changes included (1) support of the master planning
effort, (2) mention the possibility of other alternatives for funding and
management, (3) mention that there is merit to pursue the protection of the
area, (4) the City must make commitments to protect the area, (5) be sure
there is open free access in the off season, (6) pursue alternatives such
as limited lease contracts, (7) recommend that a City staff person be
designated to follow—up the recommendations. The vote to approve these
changes was unanimous.
Krempel stated it was important that the NRAB recommendation be in
agreement with the Water Board and NRAB should be in contact with the Water
Board committee.
It was requested that a copy of the final letter be sent to all guests
who attended the meeting. This will be done.
Discussion of Committees
Board Members were asked to indicate any committee changes they wished
to make. The committee structure is now as follows.
Bylaws Committee Fechner, Fischer
Legislative Review DuBois, Fischer, LaRue, Reed
Mitigation Committee DuBois, Reed, Duncan, Sanz, Sousa
Land Use/Wildlife Bassinger, Fechner, Sanz, Sousa, Michelsen
Education/Information: Duncan, Fechner, Johnson, LaRue, Michelsen
Water Committee Reed, Michelsen, Sousa, DuBois, Fischer
Hazardous Materials .
Recycling Committee .
Air Quality Committee:
DuBois, Johnson, Duncan
Bassinger, LaRue
Reed, Johnson, Schwartz, LaRue
The Goals & Objectives Committee was inadvertently omitted from the
previous committee draft.
Budget
Krempel stated that various boards have chosen various levels of
involvement in review of the budgets of their related departments. He said
Council would like NRAB to look at the DNR budget which will be mailed to
them for comment at the next meeting. Susan Kirkpatrick stated that
Council would appreciate input from a citizen's point of view from NRAB
members. They would like to know if the performance measures in the DNR
programs are what NRAB considers important to carrying out functions of the
programs. Due to time constraints, she suggested individual NRAB members
provide input in the upcoming public meetings rather than try to submit a
consensus written statement from the entire Board.
Recess
Due to the lateness of the hour, it was moved and seconded to recess
the meeting and reconvene on 9/15/86 at 7:00 p.m. at a location to be
determined by staff. The vote was unanimously in favor.