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CITY OF FORT COLLINS
NATURAL RESOURCES ADVISORY BOARD
OCTOBER 7, 1987
7:00 p.m.
Board Members Present:
Suzanne Bassinger
Dave DuBois
Bill Fischer
Tim Johnson
Denise LaRue
Board Members Absent:
Sheryl Barr (excused)
Council Members Present:
Susan Kirkpatrick
Visitors Present:
Dan MacArthur (Triangle Review)
Ari Michelsen
Pat Reed
Bob Sanz
Deborah Shimkus
Rich Fisher (unexcused)
Agenda Change
The meeting opened with a motion to change the agenda to allow recent
air quality matters to be discussed first, then to proceed with the
remainder of the agenda. The motion passed unanimously.
Discussion of Air Quality Activities of Recent Weeks
Michelsen handed out a "Chronology of Air Quality Meetings and Events"
outlining activities from August 11 through September 23 dealing with an
LPO/MPO agreement being developed by the transportation department. It was
stated that the relationship between NRAB and staff needs clarification.
Boards and staff each have the responsibility. of informing Council, but
sometimes the two are at cross purposes.
Kirkpatrick stated that she does not believe there has been closure on
the air quality issues of recent weeks. The Resolution adopted by Council
on 9/l/87, establishing the North Front Range Transportation Planning
Council, does allow exploration of other options for an air quality
advisory board. She stated that NRAB can proceed to discuss the item in a
longer time frame. She stressed that Council feels it is very important
that advice coming to Council from staff be a consensus. Advice to Council
from boards, however, need not be a consensus, even though the City Manager
would like for boards to be in consensus with staff.
Woodruff advised that the City Manager has stated that he wants the
air quality lead agency process to proceed through the Governor's office
before the City looks at any alternatives.
LaRue asked Kirkpatrick if the Council actually gets only one view
when they are making decisions.
Kirkpatrick responded that, in a sense, that is true. She stated that
it would be paralyzing for Council to be presented with all options.
Fischer expressed concern that, relative to recent actions, staff was
actually telling the board what they could and could not look at.
Kirkpatrick responded that there is a built-in tension between boards
and staff.
Fischer asked whether or not boards have independence. Also, what
support is available from staff.
Kirkpatrick answered that there is support with real strings attached.
She stated that advice to Council from boards can be more political than
advice from staff. She said that Council needs good technical advice from
staff. From boards, Council needs both technical and political advice.
Sanz asked why staff canceled the board's September worksession,
rather than contacting the board chair to see if the chair wanted to cancel
the meeting. He also asked if the board was supposed to be reactive or
proactive.
Kirkpatrick stated that staff's canceling of the meeting could have
been handled much differently. She has communicated this to the City
Manager.
Shimkus stated that the cancelation of the September worksession made
her feel cheated out of the necessary time to get all of the information
needed on the issue of an air quality lead agency. She felt this
information should have been presented, whether or not the board made a
recommendation to Council at that time. She asked if NRAB would be allowed
to meet for an information session before the December meeting.
Michelsen stated that he thought the board could meet before the
December meeting, but that the City Manager prefers that there be nothing
which could appear as though there is any division on this issue.
LaRue stated that the Air Quality Committee is reviewing the adopted
transportation air quality organization structure and possible appointees.
Johnson said he would like for the entire board to know what the committee
is looking at. He would like to reschedule the cancelled meeting to
discuss the adopted organization.
Kirkpatrick stated that looking at the issue (of appointments) before
the December meeting would be okay, and probably helpful.
Fischer cited some of the history of the City's Water Board and asked
if the responsibility of boards has changed since the early '601s. He
asked if boards can go out and identify issues and make suggestions to
Council. He stated that if staff determines what boards can review, boards
are then just rubber stamps.
Wilkinson stated that the Natural Resources Division's charge from
Council includes looking at the possibility of making changes.
Reed stated that he felt it was healthy to have a diversity of
opinions, that he felt all options needed to be looked at when making
decisions.
Sanz asked why looking at options would jeopardize funding (this had
been the reason the board was not to look at options at this time).
Woodruff stated that staff is not in consensus on this matter.
Kirkpatrick stated that if staff disagrees, Council needs to know what
kinds of differences there are, i.e. are they political or technical.
Approval of Minutes
The Minutes of the September 2 NRAB meeting were unanimously approved
as submitted.
Committee Re orts
EDUCATION INFORMATION: LaRue reported that the committee met with
staff the last week of September to review the plans for communication with
the public this winter regarding pollution warnings. They also discussed
publicity for the Fort Collins Better Air Campaign. Shimkus stated that
NRAB needs to remember to include other environmental groups when
disseminating information.
LAND USE: The committee has been reviewing the combined issues of
development on Benson Reservoir and adoption of the Wildlife Management
Plan. It was reported that several board members have contacted Council
members regarding the Wildlife Management Plan. Wilkinson stated that, at
the Conceptual Review stage, he had advised that the DNR wetlands map
showed the Benson Reservoir area as an area of high concern and he advised
the developer to contact the Army Corps of Engineers. The Corps decided
not to take jurisdiction of this area. Wilkinson stated that he had
concerns about some of the things he saw on the master plan and felt the
City needed to make sure that the developer can be required to do needed
studies to determine the development's impacts. He stated that
neighborhood meetings will be held regarding the Benson development. He
also stated that he has asked that adequate notes be placed on the master
plan to insure protection. It was stated that Planning staff had initially
recommended approval of the master plan.
Wilkinson recommended working within the administrative processes and
not trying to push past that right now to get the Wildlife Management Plan
approved. It now looks like the Planning and Zoning Board may adopt the
wetlands map; that action would insure implementation. There was feeling
among board members that if the Wildlife Management Plan had already been
adopted, it would have taken care of the Benson problem. There was
discussion about whether or not NRAB should go ahead with a letter to
Council regarding the Plan. Suggestions included: (1) the matter should go
to committee, (2) nothing should be done, (3) a message should be sent to
the Planning and Zoning Board and to Council stating that NRAB feels the
Wildlife Management Plan should be adopted into City planning expediently.
It was moved and seconded to have the Land Use Committee compose a letter
to City Council and the Planning and Zoning Board emphasizing NRAB interest
in pursuing the Wildlife Management Plan, and call attention to the Benson
issue and how the Plan could impact such issues. The motion passed 8 - 1.
Fischer voted against, saying he felt what is being done is enough,
Wilkinson has the situation in control.
It was announced that Wilkinson will speak to the Sierra Club on
October 22, presenting a slide show on the Wildlife Management Plan.
Air Quality Lead Agency Appointees
Michelsen briefly outlined the structure of the Transportation/Air
Quality Council, mentioning possible groups for which NRAB could recommend
appointees in order to help build an effective organization. Because of
the lateness of the hour, there was not time to adequately pursue this
matter.
January Symposium
Felchle mentioned that DNR is doing some early planning for an
environmental awareness symposium for January 1988, similar to the one held
in January 1987. She stated that input from NRAB members would be welcome,
particularly if there was anything from last year they thought should be
repeated, or anything they would like to see changed. Specific discussion
was tabled until the November meeting.
Announcements
The report of the City's curbside recycling project was handed out.
The question was raised about recent development proposals at the CSU
Bull Farm. Wilkinson will discuss this individually with interested NRAB
members.
The meeting adjourned at 9:50 p.m.