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MINUTES
CITY OF FORT COLLINS
NATURAL RESOURCES ADVISORY BOARD
REGULAR MEETING
281 N. COLLEGE - DEVELOPMENT SERVICES
SEPTEMBER 5, 1990 - 7:00 PM
Board Members Present
Bill Miller
Tim Johnson
Dave DuBois
Chuck Davis
Board Members Absent
Joyce Berry
Deni LaRue (excused)
Staff Members Present
Edith Felchle
Shirley Bruns
Joe Frank
Christine -Ferguson
Will Smith
Harold Swope
Ward Luthi
Tom Shoemaker
Susie Gordon
Minutes
Minutes from August 8 regular meeting were unanimously
approved as submitted.
A request was made to identify the responsible party in action
items in the minutes.
Old Business
Committee Assignments:
Education - Johnson, Smith, Miller
Recycling - Johnson, Smith, Miller
Land Use - Ferguson, Swope
Water - Swope, DuBois
Hazardous Materials - DuBois, Davis
Legislation - ad hoc
Mitigation committee - ad hoc
Johnson will call absent members to determine which committees
they want to be on. He asks that last year's committee chairs
phone new committee members and arrange the designation of new
chairpersons.
LDGS Audit:
Joe Frank provided an update on the LDGS Audit and distributed
copies of the most recent report. He explained that City Council
reviewed the Audit at their August 28 work session and directed
Planning to ensure that all the boards and commissions reviewed and
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commented on it. Council is very interested in each board's
response. Frank agreed to wait until after the Board's meeting on
October 3 for the NRAB's comments.
Frank directed the Board's attention to the pull-out
prioritization chart on page 45. On the following page, the
Planning and Zoning Board's recommendations are given. Their
additions and changes are identified by stars and. italics. For
example, the P&Z Board added the Transportation Plan as a high
priority item. (An updated version of this page was handed out
separately from the report.)
...Swope... inquired.. whether _.Planning...had ...considered ._hiring,_a
contractor to perform the Audit rather that doing it within the
department to avoid the perception of bias. Frank responded that
the time constraints of completing the project in 15 weeks
precluded that option. In his opinion, the review by the P&Z
Board, citizen surveys, and other public comment made it an
unbiased, independent document.
Johnson asked whether there had been any objections to the
recommendation for a submission requirement for hazardous waste
identification by industrial and commercial users (page 21). Frank
answered that there had not been objections. He explained that an
inherent problem during development is that the end user is not
always known. Hazardous waste identification'may have to be added
to Building permit requirements. -
Ferguson suggested that Frank specify his expectations for the
Board's response to the Audit. Frank explained that any thoughts,
comments, or additional emphasis that the NRAB wanted to make on
issues in their areas of concern would be useful to Planning and to
Council.
Frank said they are interested in finding out how things can
be improved. He pointed out that just because an issue is rated
"less important" that doesn't necessarily mean it won't get worked
on immediately. Easy projects, for example adding wording to an
ordinance, will be accomplished quickly.
Ferguson observed that the Audit doesn't contain any
strategies or tactics. Frank explained that the next step in the
project is to develop the work program for the priority items by
October, including descriptions of time frames and necessary
resources, followed by work plans for the other items.
Ferguson questioned Frank about the form that he envisioned
the LDGS"will take in the future, and about enforcement. Is the
P&Z Board bound to the LDGS decision -making tool? He replied that
the essential structure of the LDGS is unlikely to change, but that
some of the policies and some clarifications of criteria will
change. It is a set of development regulations and they (P&Z) are
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limited to the criteria contained in the LDGS.
Ferguson asked about what is being perceived of as "short
circuiting" the LDGS, the "so-called fast track." Frank responded
that there was nothing on any "fast tracking" process being
considered for the LDGS. He thought that what she referred to is
consideration that is being given for a new zoning district that
would apply to the Harmony Corridor area. A two step process is
proposed; if a project is planned for one of the five uses
identified in that zone, it is eligible to go through a special
process. First it goes through a preliminary P&Z approval, where
the LDGS criteria are applied. Then it goes through design
guidelines.. and . special.. conditions.. review... .This.. process ,could
potentially be applied to other projects that have gone through a
master plan process; it's designed to allow that flexibility.
However, it's not a new process, and it is not any faster. He
commented that it is hard to tell at this point whether the zoning
district proposal will be approved.
Davis asked about the recommendation, "use of points." Frank
replied that it is a suggestion to keep a log to track how the
points are used, and how often people are taking advantage of
certain features, such as including low income housing or energy
conservation.
Ferguson commented on the absence of noise pollution in the
Audit. Frank answered that it was included as a traffic and
neighborhood compatibility issue. She also complimented Frank on
the professional work and expertise of the Audit, to which he
replied that during the project they had adhered to the policy that
"there are no dumb questions."
Johnson requested that the land use committee review the
Audit. Ferguson suggested assigning pages to each member of the
Board to review. DuBois observed that Chapter 4 is the essence of
the document. Johnson suggested that all members read the
introduction and made the following assignments for Chapter 4;
Ferguson, Swope
City Land -Use Policy- Smith
Design- Smith
Infill and Neighborhood Compatibility- Ferguson
Predictability of Land Use- Miller
Predictability of Decisions- Davis
Johnson observed that this coverage should provide solid
recommendations for City Council. Frank cautioned the Board that
the -old version of the chart and the new version of the pull-out
chart look different but that the contents are the same.
When an inquiry was made about the Anheuser Busch Agreement,
Shoemaker explained that the agreement to an emissions cap had set
a precedent that was being considered for other projects. Frank
added that originally AB wanted to burn coal, but that they agreed
to the use of natural gas with oil as a back-up.
The discussion of the LDGS Audit concluded by Johnson
encouraging members to call Frank if they have further questions.
Recycling:
Smith directed the Board's attention to the draft letter that
had been handed out at the last meeting which made the
recommendation to Larimer County Commissioners to adopt plans for
an intermediate processing center (IPC). Because the Commissioners
voted for- an..IPC.four- .days. later, _the..letter.will-be.not_be sent .as
it was drafted.
Shoemaker described that the County public hearing was well -
attended and that the vote was unanimous, 3-0, for an IPC. Frank
Lancaster, director of County Natural Resources, was asked to
provide some more information on the IPC by the next and final
hearing early in October. Bid proposals will be examined, and it
is likely that the new facility will be built and operating by
early summer, 1991.
Shoemaker announced that a joint grant proposal made to the
State Energy Conservation Office by Fort Collins, CSU, Estes Park,
and Loveland has been accepted. In addition to awarding the
request for $93,000, the agency allocated $10,000 for the purpose
of disseminating information about the project to other communities
in the state. Fort Collins will receive $30,000 of the grant. The
money will be used for educational packages, and a video or slide
program on waste reduction. Almost half of the money will be "pass
through" funding for other groups' recycling projects and
activities. Guidelines for project eligibility will be developed
by the Natural Resources Division.
Ferguson asked how the IPC will be funded. Shoemaker replied
that a private contract would be likely to happen, and that the
contractor would recoup their costs through increased tipping fees.
The landfill rate structure is likely to be rearranged and tipping
fees increased; potentially, use of the IPC will not cost anything.
Smith inquired whether the resolution permits private
companies to set charges based on whether or not customers recycle;
is free market still the only approach that can be taken to rate
structuring? Shoemaker commented that the IPC allows the
opportunity to get one step closer; if there is no charge to
recyclables and a higher charge for throwing away waste, there will
be a direct incentive for haulers to participate in recycling. He
added that the Commissioners were very interested in investigating
a "pay as you throw" system. Shoemaker noted that their interest
creates an opportunity to pursue joint legislative lobbying with
the City to change state laws that prevent intervention into
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private haulers' rate structuring.
When Miller asked about the effect on individuals in the
county who haul their own waste, Shoemaker replied that they would
be subject to increased tipping fees, but in the same proportion,
and that the same incentive to recycle would apply.
Smith observed that the resolution doesn't include any
reference to market development for recyclables, such as Styrofoam.
Shoemaker replied that the Economic Development division could play
a role here, and that the, operator of the IPC would be responsible
for brokering recyclable materials.
Ferguson inquired whether the City will receive a percentage
of the IPC contractor's revenue, and whether that money would be
earmarked to encourage people to participate. Shoemaker said it
was included in Council's resolution, but that it was still a
detail to be worked out.
Smith asked if the County's plans will change the City's
curbside proposal, other than the timing, to which Shoemaker
replied, no, except to add the beneficial aspects of the IPC, such
as the co -mingling collection system, which would reduce traffic,
and to increase efficiency and economy of scale.
Bruns commented that basically the only'change that has been
made to the draft that was previously submitted to the Board is the
addition of legal definitions.
When asked about used motor oil pick-up, Shoemaker stated that
he recommended against including oil collection until it has been
determined by the EPA whether oil will be classified as a hazardous
waste. Bruns added that commercial users are not exempt from used
oil disposal regulations, but that they usually contract for its
collection.
Shoemaker explained that the ordinance specifies an annual
designation by the City of the materials to be recycled. This will
allow marketplace considerations to be part of the decision -making
process. For example, yard wastes could be added (although they
are not included presently in the recommendation) during the annual
review. The market for compost is currently poor, and it is
possible for people to perform composting individually. Johnson
agreed that education would increase community awareness of the
value and need for composting yard wastes.
A draft letter to City Council concerning the recycling
program,- was. distributed-. Discussion followed ---concerning the
problem haulers have with reporting their list of customers.
Shoemaker stated that he will ensure that reporting is conducted
using proprietary locked files to alleviate their concern. Bruns
noted that after the City Attorney's review of the ordinance, it
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will be publicly available and the waste haulers and others will
have a final opportunity to comment. The ordinance is scheduled to
go before Council on October 2, at which point, staff will be
asking for adoption of the ordinance on the first reading.
Bruns referred Ferguson to page 5, section 9, when she
inquired about commercial requirements. Smith interjected that
there is no language in the ordinance concerning requirements.
Council preferred to have free market conditions determine
participation in recycling, which is why the Board advocates
financial incentives.He added that brokering services are very
important to small and medium sized customers.
When asked whether there are restrictions to out -of -county
haulers to using the landfill, Shoemaker commented that he thought
it likely that the IPC would become a brokering center for northern
Colorado. He mentioned that it has been a concern of the Chamber
of Commerce that businesses that have been conducting their own
brokering and recycling will still have their rates increased.
Johnson noted that a recommendation will need to be made on
the ordinance, and that the Board doesn't meet until October 3. A
motion was made and passed for the recycling committee to meet and
prepare a recommendation on staff's recycling proposal.
EMP Report:
Shoemaker related the outcome of the August 28 work session
and Council's appraisal of the Environmental Management Plan, and
suggested that the Board consider scheduling a separate additional
meeting to discuss it. He described the session as a command
performance that could not be postponed, although staff had
notified Council and the City Manager that work on the EMP
Framework had not been completed.
Shoemaker noted that there was a strong message from Council
that too much process had been presented, and that Council was
anxious for the action on the plan. Most importantly, Council
conveyed that they care about improving environmental management in
the city. He stated that the door is open and that staff intends
to take action items to Council.
Shoemaker went on to say that staff is in the process of
regrouping and that an Action Agenda report is being prepared for
printing next week. The goal is to produce a manageable report,
15-20 pages long. A background report will be available for
further reference. At this point, Shoemaker distributed a handout,
EMP Action Schedule.
Swope related his observation of the Council work session that
Council seemed to want to be further along. There was dissention
among individual members; Maxey expressed that the EMP should be a
broad policy, while Horak wanted to see specific areas addressed.
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Swope thought that Council seemed puzzled about what was expected
of them, that it wasn't clear.
Johnson concurred with Swope. He went on to underscore that
the stage appears to be set for action and to urge staff to move
forward with specific proposals.
It was agreed to schedule a supplemental meeting to discuss
the EMP on Wednesday, September 19, at 7:00 pm in the Employee
Development Conference Room, 200 W. Mountain, Suite A (please note
that this is a change in location).
Land Acquisition Fund:
Shoemaker explained that the timing is probably good for
promoting a land acquisition fund. Councilman Horak had raised
the issue at the August 28 work session and at the same time,
Council has been deliberating on the historic preservation fund.
He added that the City Manager has requested that he prepare a
budget proposal for acquisition projects.
At this point, Shoemaker distributed a draft letter to Council
concerning land acquisition. He explained that because of the
timing of upcoming budget reviews, he took the opportunity to draft
a letter that requested funding be set aside.
Davis inquired about the option of using a change in zoning to
accomplish land acquisition. Shoemaker agreed that as an avenue of
preservation, zoning needs to be investigated. Miller concurred
that it could be a strong selling point, to offer a zoning change,
or else acquisition. He wondered if an acquisition fund could be
dovetailed with open space.
Shoemaker stated that although other funds such as open space
and stormwater in part achieve the objectives of natural area
planning, there is a need to preserve areas that may not have
recreational or flood control value. The lottery money funding is
designated for trails year by year. The funding source that we are
requesting would be new money.
Smith asked whether the future designation of land purchased
under this fund could be shifted to open space, or whether
designation as natural area was binding. Could this be a
transitional source of funding, used to acquire land as unexpected
opportunities arise and when other sources have been used up?
Shoemaker expressed that he thought there should be a funding
source allocated for natural resource values, but -that he would
expect natural areas to be part of the open space system, managed
under different management plans. The NRAB would likely play a
role in making decisions.
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Ferguson observed that the City Manager wants to see "a map
with circles and price tags and priorities." Shoemaker commented
that there are other aspects to the program, such as finding ways
to help homeowners associations and reservoir companies create and
preserve.natural areas. The heart of the program is to determine
what constitutes valuable land, where they are, and what their
costs are.
Smith asked whether the fund would carry over from year to
year and have a regular inflow of money, or need to be used
annually. Johnson stated that the money- should be used for
appropriate purchases and not just to get spent. Shoemaker
commented that. the fund would provide the ability to respond to
opportunities, especially when there are limitations to other
funding.
A discussion ensued about the format of the letter to Council
and how to make the request, or "fill in the blanks." Johnson
cited the Harmony Corridor project, during which planners
identified available wetlands and estimated their costs at $6
million. He asked whether the Board should make a list of
available purchases in a particular price range of $1/2-2 million
as part of the proposal to Council. For example, the Spring Creek
Corridor could be identified as a prospect. Swope noted that if
there were a fund, people would probably be inclined to donate land
or contribute money to it. Smith suggested that instead of looking
at large corridor projects, smaller individual parcels could be
purchased.
Miller asked whether it would be useful to avoid specific
wildlife or wetland designations and just buy land in the city's
best interests, but other members felt that the fund would get
diverted. Davis stated that specifying a dollar amount would
necessitate having a "for instance" list. Johnson observed that a
fund could be built up from an initial amount of perhaps $3/4
million now, to be added to next year.
Miller inquired whether there was a possibility of dovetailing
the fund with mitigation fines. Johnson thought that would be a
possibility to discuss. Smith suggested using an acreage approach
instead of a monetary approach. Ferguson agreed that a per capita
acreage figure could be established. Davis asked Shoemaker if he
knew of a precedent in other cities for average first year
spendings on this type of program. Shoemaker stated that there
were programs in various forms around the country.
Johnson noted that it is important to provide a dollar amount
in the proposal in order to be included is this year's budget.
Shoemaker stated that all these tools need to be addressed in this
policy, but agreed that a dollar figure should.be offered so that
the opportunity isn't missed to be included in the budget. He
noted that when it was proposed at this time last year, lack of a
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budget proposal put the recycling program out of sync and under-
funded. Council will be considering the budget on October 2, and
it would be valuable to have the Board's recommendation for a land
acquisition fund for the work session next week, or in the week
following.
Shoemaker stated that a recommendation from the Board is
important to allow implementation to proceed once the natural areas
policy is approved. When Ferguson asked him if the exact dollar
amount is needed, Shoemaker replied, no, just that it gets included
in the budget. Smith observed that giving Council some
approximations and examples will set a feel for the costs.
A motion was made and passed to complete the draft letter
establishing a land acquisition fund, including examples of other
cities' first year funding for similar projects.
Committee Reports
Education Committee:
Felchle discussed the draft proposal for an NRAB Environmental
Action award. She distributed a copy of a news article on a
similar type of award sponsored by a commission. Smith suggested
that in order to be effective, there should be a public
announcement for the award. Felchle noted that the award has good
potential for schools' class projects. When asked about the
funding for the award, Felchle explained that it comes out of the
Natural Resources division budget.
Johnson proposed using the columbine flower as the symbol for
the award. Smith inquired whether other groups could share the
sponsorship of the award, but members felt that it should be
retained as a Natural Resources award.
Felchle asked for a recommendation on the draft from the
education committee, and for ideas about the composition of the
review board. Comments should be addressed to Felchle or Smith.
Legislative Review:
Davis directed the Board's attention to recent pesticide
legislation and his concerns about the state's preemption of local
control over commercial applications. He described the law as an
"industry protection bill." Shoemaker reminded the Board that
City Forester Tim Buchannon has been considered for a presentation,
and that he might be able to provide more information on the law.
New Business
Ferguson expressed her concern about unnecessary staff time
being spent in Board meetings, and suggested scheduling staff
presentations early in order to excuse them as soon as possible.
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Smith offered a note of congratulations to Natural Resources
staff as recipients of the Golden Handlebar award for highest City
department participation rate on Bike -to -Work Day.
Felchle discussed the Clean Air Fair that is being held at the
Foothills shopping mall on October 13 and 14. She made a request
for volunteers to help staff the booths and to (briefly) wear the
"Whiff the Clean Air Pup" costume. Board members will be receiving
flyers in the mail and are asked to post them if possible.
Miller reported on the progress of Operation Osprey. The
death of one fledgling has been attributed to encephalitis. Nine
birds reached -.the - flight stage, and -four- have - been sighted in
fishing activities. Migration may have already started for the
other birds. Only 3-4 years of the project left to go! Miller
credited volunteers for extreme diligence and hard work.
Congratulations were voiced for Miller and Operation Osprey.
Swope asked that the mitigation process that was discussed at
the last meeting in his absence be amended to include consideration
to the area where damage has occurred. This has been omitted as a
criterion, but it is important that the need for repairing damage
be included.
A motion was made and passed to amend the mitigation process
to include reference to local areas consideration.
The 1990-91 Board and Commissions Manual was passed out to
members. The question was raised whether the NRAB is short a
member. Johnson stated that the status of Ward Luthi is not clear,
as he has not formally submitted his resignation from the Board.
Felchle noted that Council has not determined yet whether the
policy will be to discontinue the appointment of alternative
members, or whether the NRAB has been determined to be a nine
member or it member board.
Adjournment
Meeting adjourned at 9:45 pm.
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NRAB ACTION ITEMS
September 5, 1990
1. Recycling committee will meet and prepare a recommendation to
City Council on staff's proposed recycling program on
Wednesday, September 12, at 7:OO pm. The meeting will be held
at Tim Johnson's house, 2939 Brookwood Place.
2. Board has scheduled a supplemental meeting to review the EMP
on Wednesday, September 19, at 7:00 pm. The location has been
changed to
Employee Development Office, Conference Room
200 W. Mountain, Suite A
3. Complete and "fill in the blanks" of the draft letter to
Council requesting the establishment of a land acquisition
fund. (Johnson, Smith, Swope, and Davis)
4. Amend the proposed mitigation process that was approved at the
August S meeting to include reference to local area
consideration. (Shoemaker)
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