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MINUTES
CITY OF FORT COLLINS
NATURAL RESOURCES ADVISORY BOARD
CITY HALL WEST - CIC ROOM
OCTOBER 3, 1990
Board Members Present
Charles Davis Ward Luthi
Dave DuBois Bill Miller
Christine Ferguson Will Smith
Tim Johnson Harold Swope
Deni LaRue
Board Members Absent (excused)
Joyce Berry
Staff Members Present
Tom Shoemaker Edith Felchle
Bob Wilkinson Joe Frank
Minutes
It was moved and seconded that the Minutes of the September
5, 1990 NRAB meeting be approved as mailed. It was stated that the
Minutes should be changed to show that Joyce Berry's absence was
excused. The amended Minutes were unanimously approved.
Committee Reports
Education Committee: Smith reported that the NRAB environ-
mental award will be announced to the public in October. LaRue
said she would like to add a media category to the award. It also
was decided that the business/government category be divided into
two separate categories, and the organization category be changed
to group/organization. It was suggested that a copy of the
announcement be sent to Poudre R-1. It was moved, seconded, and
unanimously passed to adopt the environmental award program.
Smith reported that Council passed the recycling ordinance on
October 2. He said the Mayor wants a resolution outlining specific
recycling goals for Fort Collins. Shoemaker said that the current
ordinance includes a 25 percent reduction goal, but other, long
range goals can be developed.
Land Development Guidance System (LDGS)
Joe Frank from the Planning Department was at the meeting to
answer questions and receive comments. It was stated that the LDGS
audit will go to Council November 6. Johnson asked if there had
been discussion regarding underground storage tanks. Shoemaker
referred to Poudre Fire Authority's (PFA) long-standing ordinance.
He said PFA has been holding off on some implementation to see what
the state will do. He said PFA is planning an extensive hazardous
materials program that will address siting issues; design, con-
struction, and operation standards; permitting; on -site emergency
response planning; education; and business inspection. PFA will
hire a full-time hazardous materials specialist within four to five
months. Davis asked if there would be an orphan tank inventory.
Frank said he didn't know.
Smith, referring to land use issues on page 20, said the Front
Range Council of Governments needs to be involved. He said the
first sentence on the first paragraph referred to something that
was proposed 11 years ago, and that Council has changed its think-
ing since then. He said there needs to be more of a vision of what
the city is or should be. This position was stressed by many board
members. Frank said the vision is embodied in the Comprehensive
Plan and is part of specific plans, e.g. the Transportation Plan.
He said the LDGS audit recommends that the vision be brought into
one document. Luthi said it is impossible to judge the LDGS, the
EMP, or any other document unless there is a "big picture" against
which to judge. Frank acknowledged this but said it is not an easy
concept for citizens to grasp.
Smith said many current environmental and energy criteria are
so lenient they are ineffective. Frank said that all environmental
criteria are absolute. He said there is a lot of information and
technology out there, especially on energy conservation, and the
community needs a process that brings it together into a consensus.
Smith stressed that his concern is that environment and energy be
looked at community -wide, not just site -by -site.
Johnson asked if bonuses could be offered to developers who
include positive environmental aspects in their developments.
Frank said this idea was workable, but it was important not to just
jump in and do it without adequate background information.
Smith asked how often the point system is upgraded. Frank
said the system was established in 181 and has had two audits and
constant changes since that time. Ferguson said that Tom Peterson
often says "vigilance is the price of democracy." She said we are
paying a lot of people to advocate for citizens. She isn't con-
vinced we have a comprehensive plan. It seems just site specific.
She said a large part of the community is suspicious of the
strategy.
It was stated that the Planning staff should come up with
good, forward -looking goals for Fort Collins.
Ferguson said she wanted to include a citizen survey on the
November 6 ballot. The survey would make environmental statements
and ask voters to either agree or disagree. The answers would not
necessarily be legally binding. It was stated that this would be
difficult on the November ballot because that was not a City elec-
tion. Johnson said maybe this could be investigated for the City
election in the spring. LaRue suggested that the quality of life
survey might be reinstated and updated.
Johnson asked how the LDGS is looking at improving bicycle and
pedestrian aspects. Frank said that will be done through the
Transportation Plan, not the LDGS. Johnson asked how design pro-
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blems are corrected after the fact. Frank said there is good
enforcement on things that show up. He said zoning violations are
one tool and that occupancy is not allowed until improvements are
installed. Johnson said that land use seems too unpredictable.
Miller said he assumes that no one knows where we are going.
Ferguson moved to empower the Land Use Committee to tie
together NRAB's comments on the LDGS and send a statement to
Planning, the Planning and Zoning Board, and Council. Luthi
seconded the motion. It carried unanimously. It was requested
that board members send comments to Miller in writing.
Environmental Management Plan
Board members commented on specific sections of the draft EMP
agenda. Item 7.0 should be moved from moderate priority to higher
priority. Section 1.1, wetlands and wildlife habitat, should
include provision for purchase, maintenance, and enhancement.
Likewise, 1.2 needs a provision for acquisition of sensitive areas,
depending on how "sensitive" is to be defined. 9.0 does not iden-
tify ahead of time gravel pits along the river corridor. The City
may want to interact with gravel companies to seek deeding of spent
pits to the City. Generally, throughout the agenda, "guidelines"
should become "requirements." It was suggested that mitigation is
undesirable, even impossible. Prevention was a preferred approach.
It was suggested that human habitat also is a sensitive area, and
then sections dealing with human aspects, e.g. light and noise pol-
lution, become sensitive areas. It was suggested that pesticides
should be moved to the water section. Some felt that stormwater
should not have such high priority. Wilkinson explained that the
criteria indicated that stormwater should be rated high; it has
wetland, safety, federal regulations, and other issues.
Section 3.1.4 should be careful not to create yuppie river
banks. 4.1 should implement a local process. Section 4.1.22 needs
environmental impact statements and enforcement. Transportation
should be in the air areas so the EMP can enforce the Transporta-
tion Plan. In the mineral resources area, pollution control should
be established. Section 10.2 should require water conservation.
Section 11.11 should monitor the effects on the landfill. Electro
magnetic should be included in visual impacts. Section 16.0 is a
terrific idea; it should be city residents, not staff.
Staff said it is helpful to hear the board's opinions, espe-
cially in the area of whether the agenda is strong enough. It also
was stated that, when requiring enforcement, it is important to
have enforcement capability." We have to be realistic in this area.
Luthi asked if it would make sense for the board to take
several areas and educate people in order to get broad support for
environmental issues. Johnson said it did make sense and he cited
recycling as a good example. That issue remained a high visibility
education issue at symposia and through other educational efforts,
and the result has been very positive.
Smith said it is important to look at aspects of all plans and
then cross check with those plans.
It was stated that, on table 3, the education section, there
is a gap in the public involvement aspect. The public involvement
should occur in conjunction with the guide. Leadership is not as
important as public education, and this should be reflected in the
agenda.
There should be stronger requirement for business to provide
information about hazardous materials generated. This could be
coordinated with emergency communication process. The emergency
people currently have a process to communicate hazardous materials
information, but they have no funds to put the information on the
computer. Wastewater treatment should be added to the agenda.
The idea of a vision was again brought up. It was asked if
the EMP calls for a vision. Shoemaker said that the vision is
missing from the agenda but it will be brought out in public
involvement. He said the tension staff works under is that some
want the vision first, others just want current policies enforced.
Luthi stated that the Planning Department is working toward a popu-
lation of 150,000, and he asked if the EMP is working toward the
same goal. He said the population issue needs to be addressed.
Shoemaker said that, in general, policy is looked at first, then
change is made if necessary.
Smith noted that the EMP includes nothing about boundary areas
into which Fort Collins will grow.
Staff suggested that NRAB make its comments officially to
Council. General, overall statements, e.g. population concerns,
would be helpful. It was suggested that the board comment on such
issues as whether the agenda has the right priority issues, whether
the agenda is strong enough, whether recommendations for next 12-
15 months are appropriate, whether additional resources should be
allocated in order to accomplish all that should be done.
Shoemaker handed out updated EMP action agenda information.
The following board members will meet Thursday, 1/11 at 5:30
p.m. at the Natural Resources office to put together the board's
list of EMP comments. After the draft of the comments is circu-
lated, if any board member has major problems with it, call the
Natural Resources office.
Announcements
DuBois reported that Council approved purchase of property for
the sludge farm, but that they did not approve immediate use of the
property for sludge. They want further environmental study.
Council appropriated $200,000 for a natural areas fund.
Felchle handed out Clean Air Fair flyers.
The meeting adjourned at 9:45 p.m.