HomeMy WebLinkAboutNatural Resources Advisory Board - Minutes - 05/01/1991MINUTES
CITY OF FORT COLLINS
NATURAL RESOURCES ADVISORY BOARD
281 N. COLLEGE AVE. - CONFERENCE ROOM
MAY 1, 1991
Board Members Present
Tim Johnson
Harold Swope
Chuck Davis
Board Members Absent (excused)
Deni LaRue
Board Members Absent (unexcused)
Christine Ferguson
Staff Present•
Tom Shoemaker
Julie Bothwell
Will Smith
Bill Miller
Dave DuBois
Edith Felchle
Bob Wilkinson
Minutes
It was moved, seconded, and unanimously approved that the
Minutes of April 3, and April 10, 1991 NRAB meetings be accepted
as presented.
Now Business
Larimer County Trash Hauling Rate Structure Resolution
Shoemaker stated that last year there was discussion about
the linkage between how much people throw away and how much they
pay to throw it away. The City and County met this past fall and
worked to get State Legislation introduced to give the City power
to require haulers to charge on a "pay as you throw" basis. The
Bill was introduced by Representative Irwin from Loveland, and
was killed in committee.
Shoemaker said that subsequent to that, Pitkin County
introduced an ordinance to do the same thing. Larimer County
attorneys determined that such an ordinance is feasible for
Larimer County. The proposed requirements are that trash haulers
obtain a license and that they provide curbside recycling service
within the Fort Collins urban growth area and the Loveland urban
growth area. As a condition of licensing, haulers would be
required to develop a means of charging customers on either a
weight or volume basis. The intent is to reduce the amount of
material going to the landfill and provide an incentive to the
consumer to recycle. Shoemaker said that the County has released
this as a draft and Frank Lancaster is in the process of getting
public input. Lancaster anticipates that the Commissioners will
consider this ordinance in early June.
Swope asked if the ordinance says what items have to be
recycled. Shoemaker replied that the structure is basically the
same structure that is in the City's ordinance in that the County
Director of Natural Resources must specify what has to be
collected. This will be done by regulation.
Shoemaker said that the trash haulers are not pleased with
this new ordinance because they do not want any additional
regulations on them, and this will require them to revamp their
accounting systems. The implementation date is January 1992, so
they do have time to make the adjustments.
Smith moved, that a letter be written to Council encouraging
support by Fort Collins City Council of the Larimer County volume
or weight based rate structure. Smith will draft the letter.
Introduction of Council Liaison
Johnson introduced Cathy Fromme, the new Council Liaison to
the NRAB.
Councilmember Fromme summarized the premlinary policy
agenda.
She said the City Manager's Office will sort the policy
agenda items under Council's current eleven goals and will
identify the resources needed for each item before bringing them
back to Council. Council will then prioritize the items for a
final Policy Agenda.
Councilmember Fromme said that Council reworded its goals a
bit. Previously the first goal was the fiscal health of the
City. The first goal now is environmental and the second goal is
to "maintain the fiscal health of the City."
Councilmember Fromme said that she does have a goal of
forming a task force on growth, but right now she does not have
the support for one. She feels that the citizens should have a
say on how they want the town to grow. She asked for some help
on presenting a position paper. Miller asked, "How do you
address various items under the EMP when you do not have good
concept of the vision?" Councilmember Fromme said that she felt
that this could be one of the top five cities in the country if
it was developed right. She feels that it will be more
economically healthy if it grows with open space and clean air.
Smith asked if there was a board that reported to Economic
Development, what Economic Development is, and what citizen input
exists for Economic Development. There were brief comments about
what the role of such a board might be. Councilmember Fromme
stated that growth questions tend to focus on how growth affects
developers. She feels that the question should be how does this
affect the environment and the developers. Shoemaker said that
he will check to see if there is an ad -hoc committee dealing with
economic development. Smith suggested maybe changing the word
"growth" to something else because it polarizes too much.
Councilmember Fromme feels that if the City is paying for the
cost of growth, people should know that, and then they can decide
if they want it. If taxpayers are subsidizing growth, they
should have a say in what can come into the community.
Shoemaker wanted to clarify with Councilmember Fromme and
the NRAB the process for developing the policy agenda. Council
met on April 27, and talked about process questions and started
on the policy agenda; April 30 was focused on the policy agenda
and resulted in a long list of recommendations. Those will be
given to staff and the boards to look at and see what is needed
in terms of project definition and resource needs. It will then
be returned to Council June 3, for finalization.
Johnson thanked Councilmember Fromme for talking with the
Board. Fromme invited the NRAB to call her with any questions or
comments they have.
Staff Roles
Shoemaker described the roles of staff for the NRAB.
Bothwell is responsible for the minutes and agendas; however, she
is still in training, Felchle will continue her role in reviewing
the Minutes and gathering information for the Agenda. Shoemaker
said that Felchle is now the point person for members to call
with questions or comments and she will then talk with Shoemaker
if needed. Shoemaker is the contact person for policy
discussions. It was requested that an entire Natural Resources
Division organization chart be sent to NRAB members.
NRAB Ouorums
Felchle said that a year or so ago, Council looked at the
issue of alternate members on boards the decision, contrary to
the recommendation of the NRAB, was to eliminate the alternate
positions and just have the regular board members. However, it
does not change the quorums. NRAB used to have 11 people from
which to get a quorum of 5. Now there are 9 people from which to
get that quorum and it is starting to be a problem. Felchle
stated that it is now more important that each member put the
board as a priority item on their schedules for attendance, and
it is extremely important that members let staff know if they
will be unable to attend so the meeting can be canceled if a
quorum will not be in attendance.
Smith stated that it was his understanding that there was a
requirement of board members in terms of the number of
consecutive meetings that could be missed even if they were
excused absences. Felchle said that the way it is written, the
limit refers to unexcused absences.
Davis said that the Fire Authority took to their board the
outline of the hazardous materials risk reduction program.
Their board felt that the next step is to bring it before City
Council for approval. Shoemaker stated that Warren Jones would
like to come to the June NRAB meeting to ask for a
recommendation. Davis commented that a decision was made to
streamline the reporting process so that city, stated, and
federal requirements can be met with one form. Shoemaker said
that the only point left hanging by the Fire Authority Board was
the need for state concurence on the submittal requirements.
Warren Jones feels he has strong support for the program.
Swope said he believes the Fire Authority should publish a
list of the common hazardous wastes to enhance public
understanding.
Old Business
Mitigation Fund
Shoemaker said that approximately 50 applications were sent
to groups believed to be interested in applying for mitigation
funds. There also was a press release.
Smith asked about the purpose of review by the board.
Shoemaker replied that the board is empowered to make the
decision regarding expenditure of the mitigation fund. Staff
will administer the contracts once approved by the Board.
It was moved, seconded, and unanimously approved that the
NRAB have a special meeting on May 22, 7:00 p.m., to hear
applications for the Mitigation Fund. The location will be
announced in the Agenda.
Smith asked if the board would be making a decision that
night. Johnson replied a final decision could be made at the
June 5 meeting.
Development Chairs Meeting Regort
Johnson said that the costs and benefits of growth were
discussed at the meeting. He said Councilmember Fromme will be
discussing this in Council deliberations in terms of their future
agenda. Johnson said we will wait and see the results of that.
Johnson also talked about funding of Natural Areas. He said
that Earl Wilkinson stated that people from past councils would
like to see a natural areas plan. Johnson said that Earl
Wilkinson felt that since these areas are expensive, the only way
to acquire the areas is to put an extra sales tax in front of the
citizens; if they vote in favor of it, we can have it, but it is
very expensive and it is hard to get voters to do that. Johnson
feels that one of the reasons people live here is because of
things like the natural areas; there should not be any reason why
these funds could not come from the general budget just as much
as the funding for the extension of Timberline Road. Johnson
asked the NRAB how they felt about this and should the funding
come from general tax or should it come from something extra.
The consensus was that the NRAB agrees with this philosophy.
Johnson would like everyone to be thinking about this and to
discuss it at the June 5 meeting and present it to Council.
Shoemaker commented that the June meeting would be good
timing, because at that meeting it should be possible to discuss
implementation alternatives which would include funding.
Swope asked if there was a City policy that would prohibit
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naming an area after someone that donated some land. He feels
these should be advertising to see if someone would donate a
natural open area. Johnson said that he does not see any problem
with this.
Natural Areas Policy Plan (NAPP)
Shoemaker reported that on April 23, he presented the NAPP
at the Council worksession. He said that it went well. Reaction
indicated that they were pleased with the quality of the
presentation and quality of the plan as a draft stage. The
biggest concern was that a picture is being painted that is so
nice it cannot be achieved. The direction that was given was to
take some time in public review to make sure everyone has time to
really look at it and give feedback. Council directed that work
on an implementation plan be started so that at the time of
adoption, an implementation strategy will be ready. Shoemaker
said the Mayor would like to talk about how she can help this
plan go forward.
Wilkinson was concerned because very few people have
commented on the draft plan.
There was discussion about various groups that should be
approached about the plan.
Shoemaker said public comment will be taken until the end of
May.
Smith commented that as a first reading of Council, they
would have passed this, but the key is, will they budget anything
for it. Shoemaker said he feels they will read it and then
budget some money for it.
Swope gave Shoemaker his comments in writing about the NAPP.
Shoemaker said he would like all comments and suggestions on
the NAPP as soon as possible. At the June 5 meeting, he will
update the board on the comments that have been received. A
recommendation can be considered in July.
Committee Reports (Unscheduled)
Symposium
Felchle said that the biggest disappointment was the crowd,
approximately 200 people. She said she has received very few
evaluations. The comments that she did hear from the attendees
and the people that were involved in the evening were positive.
There were good comments on the quality and choice of the films
that were shown; positive and negative sides to the
presentations. Felchle said there were a few negative comments
from certificate recipients who were unhappy because they did not
get more attention.
Felchle expressed her appreciation to all the board members
that helped with the symposium.
Smith wrote a letter to Felchle and the Natural Resources
Division congratulating them on the symposium, and thanking
everyone for their work and efforts. It was moved, seconded, and
passed unanimously to submit the letter to Felchle and staff on
behalf of Smith and the NRAB.
Land Use
Johnson and Wilkinson met with Howard Alden to talk about
the concept of the Environmental Learning Center. Johnson asked
if board members would be interested in having a picnic at the
learning center immediately prior to the June 5 NRAB meeting, and
then continue the meeting at the adjacent water treatment plant.
Board members agreed to do this.
Johnson said Alden is developing a visionary master plan for
the learning center that will be out at the end of July.
Johnson said it would be great to have the City and Colorado
State University working together on a project that both would
benefit from.
Transportation Plan
Shoemaker handed out a memo about the Transportation Plan.
He said the memo is from notes Smith took at the March 26 Council
worksession.
Announcements
Felchle said that Luthi had resigned from the NRAB so there
will be another opening.
Felchle stated that the director of State Boards and
Commissions was in town a few months ago to let people in all
parts of the state know about commissions and how to apply for
membership. She said that the governor is interested in a
balance from all areas of the State. Felchle handed out
information about several of the boards that might be interesting
to people with interest in natural resources. The only one that
still has an opening date for this year is Natural Areas.
Smith handed out copies of the most recent issue of the
Kodak Company paper for everyone to look at.
Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned at 9:15.