HomeMy WebLinkAboutNatural Resources Advisory Board - Minutes - 03/03/1993• MINUTES
CITY OF FORT COLLINS
NATURAL RESOURCES ADVISORY BOARD
REGULAR MEETING
281 N. COLLEGE AVE. - CONFERENCE ROOM
MARCH 3, 1993
For Reference: Will Smith, NRAB Chair - 221-0425
Chris Kneeland, Council liaison - 221-2950
Tom Shoemaker, Staff liaison - 221-6263
Board Members Present
Will Smith, Hal Swope, Phil Friedman, Bill Miller, Deni LaRue, Steve
Erthal, Tim Johnson
Board Members Absent
Terri Knudsen (excused), Craig McGee (unexcused)
Staff Present
Julie Bothwell, Rob Wilkinson, Edith Felchle, Sherry Albertson -Clark
Guests Present
John Bartholow, interested citizen, Chris Kneeland, Council liaison
Approval of Minutes
It was moved, seconded, and unanimously approved that the Minutes of
the February 3, 1993 NRAB meeting be accepted as written with Friedman
abstaining.
Now
Introduction of Council Liaison
Smith introduced Councilmember Kneeland, she is the Board's Council
liaison.
Councilmember Kneeland stated that all advisory boards in the City are
in place to continuously act as special interest advisories for Council.
Councilmember Kneeland expressed her interest in the WTP1 project and
stated that the Board should get it on the new Council's workplan.
Councilmember Kneeland told the Board to let her know what she could
do for the Board and how she can help e.g., getting an item on Council's
agenda.
LaRue asked Councilmember Kneeland how she felt about the NAPP.
Councilmember Kneeland stated that she felt it was one of the best things
that could have been done. She feels that it is a solid plan.
Environmental Clearinghouse
Edith Felchle from the City of Fort Collins Natural Resources Division
was present to introduce the Board to some environmental education
considerations that are happening in the community.
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Felchle stated that she would like to receive some input from the
Board and that it may serve as some background information for the future.
There could be a need to come back to the Board for a recommendation.
Felchle stated that there are two groups, the Landscape Opportunity
Study (LOS) Environmental Education Subcommittee, and Challenge Fort
Collins, that have identified a great interest in having an Environmental
Clearinghouse in Fort Collins. She has also had individuals contact her to
express their opinions.
Smith asked what was meant by an "Environmental Clearinghouse."
Felchle answered that this is the question and that is what she would like
to discuss. She explained that there are as many definitions of an
Environmental Clearinghouse as there are people who are thinking about it.
Felchle stated that the reason the City has been brought in to it is
because of people coming to them and asking, "Can't the City do this?" The
activity of the City at the present time is that Felchle, and boardmembers
Miller and LaRue, have been serving on the LOS Environmental Education
Subcommittee, and Felchle has been asked to serve on the clearinghouse
component of Challenge Fort Collins.
Felchle distributed a list of comments that she has received as to
what this "idea" is or will do. She said that the Board's input could take
a number of directions. She is not looking for anything official, but said
it would be helpful to have the Board's ideas of what it thinks an
Environmental Clearinghouse would be.
Felchle reviewed the comments of what various people have said the
Environmental Clearinghouse would be: (1) someone to organize environmental
events in Fort Collins, (2) one place where anybody coming into town can
call with any kind of an environmental question, (3) a central collection
of environmental information, (4) the central collection of environmental
information, (5) a non-profit, self sustaining entity supported by fees for
service and organizational sponsorship as well as by grants, donations and
by fund raising activities.
Felchle reviewed the comments on what people have said the
Environmental Clearinghouse would do: (1) promote environmental awareness
and education, (2) match volunteers to programs, (3) provide expertise to
existing organizations on education and public relations, (4) provide grant
information and coordination for environmental activities, (5) help create
a nature center and physical home for the clearinghouse, (6) organize the
environmental organizations in Fort collins for purposes of environmental
activism, (7) provide Eco Net for public use, (8) increase the City's
environmental newsletter to bi-monthly and include news/information from
environmental organizations, (9) operate a speakers bureau, and (10)
facilitate information among environmental organizations so that they each
know what the others are doing.
Miller stated that CSU and the City are the two main parties that are
driving the Landscape Opportunity Study. CSU is promoting an idea of
enhancing and coming up with a building for the ELC and the building could
house the Environmental Clearinghouse. He stated that as to whether the
community wants to get involved in supporting something at a CSU location,
at a City location, or an independent organization is unanswered at the
present time.
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Johnson stated that this sort of an idea has been in front of the
' public for approximately 12 years. He feels that there is a need for many
of the things that were presented. He recommended putting a "warning sign"
up because if one looked at items six, eight, and nine regarding what the
Environmental Clearinghouse would do and called it a "Chamber of Commerce
Clearinghouse" with the same terms, people would react very differently.
He feels that the City should not be part of any of the private groups.
Swope stated that he agreed with number five of what would the
Environmental Clearinghouse be. He feels that it could serve a worthwhile
function to have a depository for all environmental information and then
use a lot of the other recommendations to distribute information from that
depository.
LaRue stated that the organizations should remain autonomous. She
also feels that number five is a great idea. She stated that if out-of-
town people want to get involved with an environmental project and are not
sure what is available, they can check in with this organization and get
some leads on who to contact.
Friedman stated that if this was necessarily needed it would have
already happened. He agreed with Swope and Johnson.
Friedman asked if this was a solution looking for a problem. Johnson
stated that there is a need and the issue is whether to go through the City
to coordinate it or if the groups want to get together and contribute
towards an office.
Erthal stated that he is skeptical. He agrees with other
Boardmembers, but does not feel there is enough staff, and if there is
enough staff he would like to see the effort involved in this be put into
other organizations and groups.
Felchle stated that one of the discussions that came about when the
groups were together was that they saw this as possibly two pieces. She
stated that the real concern she is hearing is the City being involved.
The groups were wondering if the activism portion would almost be an
environmental coalition. Some of the items such as a central place for
environmental literature could be separate and called an Environmental
Clearinghouse and operated separately. She asked Boardmembers if they see
any kind of separation between those kinds of things.
Smith stated that at the rate at which environmental information is
changing, he finds it difficult to imagine one group having a single
depository. He said that the City is already doing a good job acting as a
central point and wonders why there is a need for some of the other type of
activity.
Johnson suggested asking the library to have a section for volunteer
groups to distribute their information for the public.
Miller stated that he feels that the City should not be involved in a
clearinghouse, and he does not feel comfortable with a single depository.
He does like Johnson's idea of volunteer groups sending their information
to the library for public access, but he also sees CSU taking a greater
role of creating an environmental library and resource facility that will
probably grow. CSU has more manpower and the budget to look at something
like that. If the City does become involved in an Environmental
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Clearinghouse he feels that it should be just information only and no view
points expressed; that knocks out the idea of the clearinghouse having an
activist role.
LaRue asked Felchle if she thought this was a need. Felchle answered
that some of the items are not appropriate for her to be involved in as a
City employee, but the fact that some of the clearinghouse items showed up
as a need indicates to her that there is a need for the City to improve its
environmental education promotion.
Councilmember Kneeland stated that part of the philosophy of Challenge
Fort Collins is not to create anything that is already being done.
Friedman asked what the first step would be if the clearinghouse
concept proceeded. Felchle answered that if the clearinghouse was defined
as everything on the sheet she handed out, then it is difficult to answer
because it could come from different directions. If a recommendation was
made by a group, that group would probably decide who should operate the
clearinghouse; if they thought the "who" was the City, then the
recommendation would be presented to Council.
Miller announced that there is a meeting of the environmental
organizations, to discuss the clearinghouse, on March 22, at 7:00 p.m. at
Village Inn Restaurant.
Johnson suggested that number nine be changed to, "Coordinate a name
list of speakers."
Earth Week Events
Felchle handed out a copy of events that will be happening during
Earth Week.
The City is involved and helping with the following events -- April
19, Save the Earth Club Environmental Conference at the Lincoln Center;
April 24, Earth Feat Fort Collins, a community earth week celebration at
the Environmental Learning Center with different events going on throughout
the day; April 20, the NRAB will present the Environmental Action Awards at
the Council meeting; April 17-25, Sierra Club and the City will be
sponsoring a precycling campaign at the downtown Safeway store.
Felchle stated that other organizations are also having events during
Earth Week. All events will be listed in the newsletter that will be out
the first week of April.
Old Business
Second Review of Solar Orientation ordinance
Sherry Albertson -Clark, from the City of Fort Collins, Planning
Department, was present to discuss the review of the second set of lots
that were considered in terms of meeting the criteria for the Solar
Orientationiordinance.
Albertson -Clark stated that staff reviewed 500 lots in the last six
months and 314 were solar oriented which is 62%. She said the first 350
lots that were reviewed were at 52%. The Ordinance was adopted requiring
65% when looking at individual subdivisions in the planning review
developments.
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Albertson -Clark •ated that it was presenteo the Planning and
' Zoning Board (P&Z Board) on February 22. The P&Z Board's recommendation
was that staff continue tracking the solar orientation results for another
year and that at the end of the year staff present another audit back to
the P&Z Board. The P&Z Board will be looking at the same kind of
statistics that have been compiled i.e., looking at lots that have been
reviewed and the numbers approved as well as variances granted.
The P&Z Board wants to see how receptive the market is to solar
oriented lots. When the ordinance was first adopted it was intended to
create an opportunity to provide solar oriented lots that were not
available to people in the market prior to the adoption of the ordinance.
The P&Z Board is asking staff to try and get a handle on the receptivity of
the market to solar oriented lots. They also want staff to track building
permits that are issued to see how many of those solar oriented lots are
getting building permits. The P&Z Board would also like staff to see if
can get a handle on energy usage in homes that are solar oriented vs homes
that are not.
LaRue asked if there was one builder who time after time kept
receiving variances. Albertson -Clark answered that the variances have been
scattered throughout various projects.
Swope asked if the Planning Department had any authority to make
developers/builders conform if they are not making any kind of effort.
Albertson -Clark answered that staff does not have authority, but can make a
recommendation to the P&Z Board.
Johnson asked how are the developers/builders receiving this and are
most of them expecting that they will be able to always get a variance.
Albertson -Clark answered that it varies depending on which developer and
consultant that staff is working with. She said that one of the biggest
concerns that both the developers and the designers raised when this was
first going through the public hearing process was that it was going to add
cost to designing projects and they would have to pass that cost to the
homeowner. Staff's feels that is not any cost because they are aware of it
now and they can design their project knowing that up front.
Smith stated that among those that were part of the study several of
those that were infills happened to do better than those that were new. He
commented that he is having a difficult time with the argument that infill
development cannot do it.
Smith asked what the reason is for recommending another year.
Albertson -Clark answered that it was the recommendation of the P&Z Board.
Staff originally recommended six months with the idea that the following
six months is going to be busy in terms of the number of developments that
get reviewed.
Smith asked what is going to be done at the end of the six months that
cannot be done at the present time. Albertson -Clark answered that the key
for the P&Z Board and staff is to see if this is working; is the market
receptive.
Smith stated that it was shown that it is likely that the house will
be oriented appropriately if the lot is oriented appropriately; there is a
four percent energy savings. He said that the biggest issue that seem to
rise at the time that this was being worked on by the Solar Orientation
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Task Force was the cost bf implementing it and he feels that it is not
being well documented. Albertson -Clark stated that if there are any
suggestions of how staff can document this, they would like the input. She
commented that the majority of time that goes into them from staff's
perspective is reviewing the plan and writing the staff report because the
solar orientation section tends to get lengthy, especially if there is a
variance requested.
Smith stated that the cost of implementing it is not the cost of
reviewing for meeting the requirement, but the cost of rewriting it for
variances that are granted. This is actually the cost that is incurred for
not meeting the ordinance, not the cost of meeting it.
Friedman asked if there has been any investigation to see how many
houses have actually been built to take advantage of solar orientation of
the lots that have complied with the ordinance. He said that four percent
is good, but that is a very passive four percent. Smith answered that this
is only a first step to getting a house to be set and oriented correctly.
Albertson -Clark said this is one of the reasons that staff recommended
another six months and P&Z Board recommended another year because there
have only been two or three building permits issued so far in any of the
developments.
Smith commented that in the first set of 10 subdivisions reviewed
(447 lots) staff had made recommendations that when variances are granted,
there should be some requirements as to what the houses should look like.
All the recommendations were denied by the P&Z Board, and there is no
indication of staff saying that there are other ways that the developers
can meet these requirements; it seems to have been dropped. Albertson -
Clark answered that it has been dropped for the present because there was
no support from the P&Z Board, and there were a number of designers that
spoke out against that concept. She feels that is something that staff
will look at in the next audit.
Erthal stated that if the NRAB is going to be active in the issue and
make the solar orientation resolution work he feels a need to start
requiring some changes in local building codes and start educating the
contractor, builders, and designers on how to build solar.
Smith felt that in terms of the report there should be what the PUD
is, who the developer is, the acreage, the number of lots, percentage
meeting requirements, and then a set of columns identifying if a variance
was granted and why.
LaRue suggested the ordinance needs to be enhanced if developments
continue not to meet the goals.
Johnson stated that one point the NRAB should recommend to Council is
that the developers who chronically and abysmally failed to reach the solar
orientation percentage be identified and find out the reason for the
abysmal performance.
Air Quality Policy Plan
Brian Woodruff from the City of Fort Collins Natural Resources
Division was present to discuss the Findings, Goals and Objectives, and
Policies of the Air Quality Policy Plan (AQPP). The Plan will be presented
to Council for adoption on March 16.
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Woodruff stated that the goal of the plan is, "Continual improvement
of air quality." The City is approaching compliance with federal and state
air quality standards.
Staff will begin to collect data on air quality indicators, including
vehicle miles of travel (VMT), the number of unconverted wood stoves and
fireplaces, and the number of people taking action on indoor air quality
issues. Staff is proposing a biennial progress review when Council will
review the data collected on ambient air quality and air quality indicators
to see how we are doing. That will be Council's opportunity to_redirect
strategies if needed.
Woodruff stated that an important point is the air quality objective
dealing with motor vehicles. A concern over the past years has been how to
connect the Transportation Plan with the Air Quality Plan. This plan does
that by setting forth motor vehicles objective. It calls for the City to
more strongly influence residents to use alternatives to single occupant
vehicles and to provide travel alternatives to single occupant vehicles.
The Plan identifies motor vehicles as the number one source of air
pollution.
Woodruff explained a couple of issues related to land use and air
quality. He stated that there needs to be more emphasis on higher
densities, especially in residential development, and on mixed land uses.
That kind of development supports alternative modes and shorter trips,
which is possible if you have places to work, shop, and play within the
neighborhood; that is what mixed land use is all about. Higher density
allows for better transit service.
Woodruff stated that there are seven objectives in the Plan. They are
related to specific air quality indicators that Staff is going to collect
data on every two years and report to Council. The seven objectives are:
o Reduce the growth of VMT, which is expected to increase 8% faster
than population growth over the next ten years.
o Reduce vehicle emissions per mile of travel.
o Prevent total motor vehicle emissions from rising above its lowest
point.
o Reduce total emissions of high priority pollutants from commercial and
industrial sources in the Urban Growth Area.
o Reduce area -wide wood smoke emissions.
o Reduce the number of non -certified wood stoves and conventional
fireplaces.
o Increase the percentage of residences and work places taking
actions to reduce exposure to indoor air pollution.
Smith stated that with the first two objectives, there is no mention
of trip numbers and he feels that is important. He explained that short
trips have the highest emission rates, and they are the best ones possible
to substitute with other modes. Woodruff agreed that reducing trips helps
reduce VMT growth and emissions per mile.
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Woodruff stated that three things can be done to reduce VMT growth:
(1) reduce the number of trips taken by vehicles, (2) reduce the average
lengths of trips, and (3) increase the numbers of passengers.
Councilmember Kneeland stated that she has noticed a large increase in
traffic within the last year and asked if it was due to railroad crossings
where cars idle for 5-7 minutes waiting for trains. Woodruff stated that
trains are part of the City's overall congestion; anything that reduces
"stop and go" driving will help air quality.
Erthal suggested putting a sign up at railroad crossings asking people
to turn their vehicles off while waiting for trains.
Johnson asked if the City will continue to publicize their use of
natural gas in vehicles. Woodruff answered that there is a policy in the
Plan that describes the City's program. First, the City is going to change
its own operations to reduce emissions, then provide education and
incentives to others. Only last will the City regulate air quality.
Johnson suggested that the City should purchase a few bicycles for every
vehicle that it buys.
Woodruff stated that there are a number of fleet owners who are
working together to get enough methane vehicles to justify building a
pumping station, the issue has been how to fuel them.
Miller asked what public information or education process staff
proposes to for getting the Plan out. Woodruff answered that Strategies
have not been outlined yet, but staff is beginning to work on them with the
Transportation Board and the AQTF.
LaRue commented that it seems that staff is looking beyond just
monitoring air pollution and getting into more education and informational
issues. Woodruff agreed that staff will be working to provide information
to the public, especially on indoor air quality issues.
Smith stated that emissions are defined differently in SARA Title 313;
Kodak emits chemicals in tank trunks in liquid form, but this is called an
emission. He suggested that when the term "commercial/industrial
emissions" is used, to be careful what is being talked about.
Swope stated that he liked the plan with the exception of pushing
mixed land -use. He feels that it is an idealistic theory and there is a
need to evaluate whether it is working or not.
Friedman moved and Miller seconded that the Board recognize the
efforts of the AQPP and recommend that the Goals, Objectives and Policies
be adopted by Council. The motion was unanimously approved.
Schedule for April Meetings/Field Trips
Rob Wilkinson from the City of Fort Collins Natural Resources was
present to discuss the 1/4 cent sales tax and the policy direction.
Wilkinson said that Shoemaker will present the prioritizations at the April
7 NRAB meeting. Wilkinson stated that there is a desire for a field trip
to look at the priority sites and asked the Board when they would like to
take it.
The Board discussed it and agreed on May 1. The trip will be from
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9:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. •
Committee ReDOrt
Land Use Committee
Miller distributed a letter that he wrote regarding the acquisition of
critical wetlands outside of the Urban Growth Area.
Miller asked the Board if they wanted to let development occur in the
Greenstone subdivision area. He has concern for the portions of both
parcels of the lands that lie outside of the UGA, between the UP railroad
right-of-way on the west and Timberline road on the east and recommended
that Natural Resources Division attempt to acquire the land using the 1/4
cent sales tax.
Smith recommended that this be deferred until the April 7 meeting
since Shoemaker will be discussing the priorities at that time.
Wilkinson stated that when the initial prioritization was done this
area was not mapped so staff did not even consider it. It is worth
reevaluating the priorities.
Announcements
Friedman stated that he had an article about the Boulder library
having a habitat model of Boulder Creek in a 420 gallon aquarium. He
thought maybe people might be interested in getting something like that
going for the Poudre River.
Smith announced that on March 10 at 7:30 P.M. the Commission on the
Status of Women is holding their Boards and Commissions meeting in the CIC
Room at City Hall West. It is an open house for the public to find out how
to get involved with Boards and Commissions. Smith asked if any
boardmembers wanted to attend and Friedman stated that he would do it.
Councilmember Kneeland thanked the Board for having her come.
Adiournment
The meeting was adjourned at 9:50 p.m.