HomeMy WebLinkAboutTransportation Board - Minutes - 10/20/1993Draft Minutes to be approved by the Board at the November 17, 1993 meeting.
TRANSPORTATION BOARD
MEETING MINUTES
OCTOBER 20, 1993 6:10-8:00 P.M.
FOR REFERENCE:
Chair -- Colin Gerety
Council Liaison -- Gina Janett
Staff Liaison -- Rick Ensdorff
Staff Support -- Cindy Scott
*** Due to the lack of a quorum, the scheduled agenda was not followed. The
following notes and information were recorded. ***
BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT:
Mark Egeland, Sara Frazier, Colin Gerety and Paul Valentine.
BOARD MEMBERS ABSENT:
Elizabeth Hudetz, David Lemesany, Sharone Mekelburg, Michael Poppenwimer, and
James Reidhead.
STAFF PRESENT:
Rick Ensdorff, Greg Byrne, Cindy Scott, Rita Davis - Transportation Department,
and Alan Krjmarik - Finance Department.
Considering the short time frame in which to work with regarding the LaPorte Lot
issue as well as Member's time constraints, it was agreed to go ahead and
consider the Lot issue..
The Board also agreed to discuss Administrative Issues (Absences) and Gerety's
"State of the Board" letter.
1) Laporte Lot - Ensdorff and Alan Krjmarik
2) Administrative Issues
3) "State of the Board" letter - Colin Gerety
DISCUSSION TOPICS:
1. LAPORTE LOT
Ensdorff gave a background account of the lot and referred to the
information included in the packets. He gave a detailed history of the
ownership, lease increases, and negotiations to purchase the lot. He
stated that the lease payments currently come from the Transportation
Reserves and there was discussion about the details of that.
Ensdorff stated that the Transportation Department feels the LaPorte Lot
is an important parking resource to the downtown. The lot also has a
significant element which is the Transfort Transfer Center and that at
some time in the future, part of the lot may be designated for carpool
parking. The lot is also significant to the Opera Galleria and there has
been a recent proposed agreement with their representatives as far as the
number of spaces that can be guaranteed to them. The Transportation
Department's goal has been to try and find a balance between providing
parking for that agreement as well as for the other downtown businesses.
A copy of the proposal is available if anyone is interested in reviewing
it. .
Ensdorff explained different parking options available for the downtown
area - permit lot spaces, timed lot spaces and on -street timed areas.
There was a short period of questions and answers, including the issue of
the general assumption that the City should be the one to purchase the lot
and be responsible for providing parking and what would happen if the City
opted not to purchase the lot. In the event that the City did not
purchase or continue to lease the lot, there is a letter on file from
Trillium Company stating that if there is an encroachment on the property,
it will be fenced off.
Mr. Krjmarik took the floor and explained the financial details of the
purchase of the LaPorte Lot. Chairman Gerety stated that he dislikes the
thought of using General funds for the purchase to support parking and
subsidize the use of the automobile. It would seem more appropriate to
use Transportation Reserves. Board Member Valentine stated that he thinks
it is a good buy, it is something the City ought to do in favor of the
downtown. The Board agreed that the LaPorte Lot should be purchased by
the City, but Chair Gerety stated that he would like to put a caveat on
the recommendation to Council. 1) The lot should be self sustaining - no
monies should be taken out of the General fund; and 2) He also stated
that he would like to see the lot become more than just parking - that
alternatives modes programs such as carpooling, transit and bikes would be
encouraged and utilized in the lot, i.e. carpool parking spaces, bike
lockers and an improved Transit Transfer Center. The other members were
in agreement with Chairman Gerety's two suggestions. Ensdorff stated that
staff would draft a letter for Chairman Gerety's signature in support of
the City's purchase of the LaPorte Lot with the two caveats stated
previously. Mr. Krjmarik stated that he would need the letter by early
next week to be included in Council packets.
2. ADMINISTRATIVE ISSUES
Absences were discussed, and it was agreed that in the future, the
Boards and Commissions Policy on attendance must be enforced. Mr.
Poppenwimer indicated to Cindy Scott that he would have to resign from the
Board due to conflicts. Ensdorff will contact the other members who have
missed several meetings to see if they still have an interest in
participating on the Board and Cindy will contact the City Clerk's office
to find out what the proper procedure is to fill Mr. Poppenwimer's
position at this time.
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3. STATE OF THE BOARD - LETTER FROM COLIN GERETY
Chairman Gerety stated that he has spoken with both Ensdorff and Council
Liaison Janett since the time the letter was sent out. He felt that since
he wrote the letter, he should preface it a bit. He stated that what he
wrote may have been misinterpreted some which is a sign that it may have
been poorly written. He said that he would like to go through it and more
clearly express what he was trying to say and perhaps just as importantly,
what he was NOT trying to say. One thing that he did not intend to do was
to attack the staff or the Transportation Services Department as
individuals. He knows that staff is hard working and more over, City
staff has always been uniformly open and communicative.
He stated that secondly, he did not mean it as an attack on the actions
that the Transportation Department is doing in terms of the projects they
have proposed to the City or what's been accepted. In fact he thinks
those projects have been in support of the Transportation Plan Policies
and Objectives that have been adopted by Council. What the Board has seen
from the federal and state funding is that the projects that are being
proposed are basically for alternative transportation, so that wasn't his
intention either.
The intent of the letter was to talk about the stack of paper that he
thought the Board was largely formed to promote - tentatively titled the
Transportation Policies Plan. That's independent in a sense from what
goes on the street and its independent from the projects that go on day to
day. Chairman Gerety also stated that the note about the State of the
Board was saying that last year the Board said that at the end of the year
they were going to have an Action Plan that could actually be taken before
the Council and the Board has not made substantial progress on that. He
expressed his frustration and stated that in order to make progress on
that the Board will have to have staff support on that particular effort.
That is the intent of what he tried to state in the letter.
Board Member Egeland stated that he shared the frustration of not making
progress on the action plan. He suggested that perhaps the Board set a
criteria for what items the Board will review, to be selective and perhaps
have more time to work on the plans.
Board Member Valentine reminded the Board that at one time they broke up
into subcommittees specifically to handle the.plans and that when the
Regional Transportation Plan came up, the subcommittees ceased to meet.
Board member Egeland stated that he felt the subcommittee meetings stopped
due to everyone's busy schedules. Chairman Gerety said that he thinks the
Board can organize themselves to make progress on two fronts - to review
things and to make progress on the long term plan. He stated that Board
Members don't have time to sit down and write the Transportation Policies.
Board Member Valentine agreed and stated it would almost have to come from
staff with recommendations and comments.
Ensdorff stated that some of the words in Chairman Gerety's letter did
strike him uncomfortably and that he appreciated Gerety's comments and
explanation tonight.
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He agreed that the Regional Plan is taking up a lot of the Board Members'
time as well as staffs and reminded the Board that they made that
conscious decision to pursue it. He said that staff has gotten smarter
about the process of developing a Policy Plan. We now realize that there
are many parts that must fit together to have a successful plan i.e., Land
Use and Density issues must be resolved before a Transportation Policy
Plan can be effective. He stated that staff also feels frustration at the
lack of progress. He also stated that he totally supports the premise
that was brought up that staff needs to do the work and get it to the
Board. It is not an expectation that the Board should do the work, but
rather for the Board to review it and pass their comments on to staff.
Council Liaison Janett also suggested that for the Board's 1994 Work Plan,
certain criteria should be established for the review of issues and to
set some goals. She stated that she appreciated what Ensdorff said about
getting smarter about the necessity of integration to have a successful
Policy Plan.
Ensdorff briefed the Board on the Land Use, Transportation and Air Quality
(LUTRAQ) team that has recently been formed to work together on those
respective issues.
Gerety stated that he wrote the letter after going over last years' Work
Plan and that he is a "products type" person. He admitted that it was a
harsh note and he felt harsh when he wrote it because of the frustration
over the lack of progress. Ensdorff asked that the Board spend more time
discussing concerns in order to vent them and give everyone an opportunity
to define what progress is. He agreed with Council Liaison's suggestion
to set some goals in the 1994 Work Plan. He feels that the Board has made
progress.
At the next meeting, the Board needs to define the focus and goals they
want to achieve for 1994. Council Liaison Janett suggested that perhaps
the Board might consider going to a retreat to assist them in defining
what they want for 1994. There was a brief discussion about re-
organization in the Transportation Department and Council Member Janett
asked for a note from CPES to Council about this issue.
Board Member Frazier stated that it was extremely helpful to hear how much
the Board helps the Council by making recommendations and that she feels
better about defining expectations and goals at the next meeting.
4. OTHER BUSINESS
Items for the November agenda will include: Approval of Minutes -
September 1993; 1994 Work Plan - defining products the Board wants to
achieve.
The m et'9 concluded at 1:00 p.m.
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Cindy L. ott
Board Secretary
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Citizens Advisory Board for Transportation
Fort Collins Colorado
State of the Board
Colin Gerety
October 11, 1993
The Citizens Advisory Board for Transportation has been in existence for somewhat over a year. At
the October 1993 meeting, new officers will be elected and a work plan for the next year will be discussed.
As current chairman it seems appropriate to give a "state of the board" report. This is a statement of my
views. It has not been endorsed by the other board members and is not a statement by the board itself.
Plan for 1993
The transportation board is a consultative board established by the City Council to oversee development of
the Transportation Policy Plan and to provide feedback on city proposals which impact the transportation
system. In addition, the transportation board is to coordinate with all other boards and commissions on
transportation issues.
The board was formed after Council adopted a mission statement and objectives for transportation.
These are to provide the basis for the Transportation Policy Plan. If the city is to meet its objectives, the
actions of the city must support the objectives.
For 1993, the board work plan said we would prepare an initial draft of the Transportation Policy Plan
for review by council.
What Happened
Ic. 1993, the board gave input on many transportation issues before the city. These included: Transfort
c: npliance with the Americans with Disabilities act, Shields Street improvements, and the restriping of
`l.;untain and Remington for bike lanes. We also reviewed the Transportation Improvement Program
which covers projects that receive state or federal funding. Board members are on all of the citizen input
groups for the regional transportation plan sponsored by the North Front Range Council.
While we have been busy, we have failed to make any progress on our main objective, the Transportation
Policy Plan.
It is my understanding that the Council expects staff to prepare work and present it to the board for
review before it heads to the general public for input or the council for review and adoption. For example,
Brian Woodruff and Susie Gordon, the staff liaisons to the Air Quality Task Force, have worked with that
group to establish a process and have shepherded the group through it. They also make sure that the
rest of the city staff participates. For example, they invited staff members from various departments to
brainstorm possible actions, their effects on air quality and the likelihood of adoption.
Board members volunteer their time. All of us are busy with other activities and none have the time
necessary to develop the Transportation Policy Plan. In the past year, the transportation staff has not
presented even a skeleton Transportation Policy Plan. It has not proposed any action items to be put in
the plan, nor has a plan to generate actions been suggested. I think it is fair to say that the Air Quality
Task Force has made more progress on transportation action plans than the Transportation Board.
Transportation funding for the city is a complex matter involving street oversizing funds, sales tax
money, and funds from the state and federal government. Transportation spending is done by half a
dozen city organizations with separate accounts for 'ransfort, street maintenance, capital improvements,
and transportation services. The board has never seen a complete picture of transportation funding and
spending.
As a matter of course we review projects that receive state or federal funding. The board finds out
about other projects only when a specific request to address the board is made by another city agency
or when a board member requests the review. The Shields street improvements are a case in point. The
board requested a review because members realized the issue was going before council without our having
seen it.
A congestion management plan was commissioned as part of the North Front Range Council's regional
transportation plan. City staff is working hard on the plan. Members of the Transportation board are
participating in this, but it is not clear that the work will find its way into a comprehensive Transportation
Policy Plan for the city.
Recommendation
The Transportation Policy Plan is critical to the city. The Council as well as other boards and commissions
regularly express frustration that they are being asked to make decisions without the support of a detailed
transportation plan. In my opinion, city actions are often in conflict with the goals of clean air and reduced
use of the single occupant vehicle. These actions have long lasting, deleterious effects on the quality of life
in Fort Collins. Without a comprehensive plan, this will continue.
If the city is to get a Transportation Policy Plan, the bulk of the work must be done by city staff. If
the Transportation Board is to meaningfully comment on transportation proposals, the complete funding
and spending picture must be presented to the board.
The city must find the staff to support the Transportation Policy Plan and the Transportation Board. If
the Transportation Services department doesn't have the resources, another department should be assigned.