HomeMy WebLinkAboutTransportation Board - Minutes - 08/21/1996TRANSPORTATION BOARD
MEETING MINUTES
August 21, 1996
Paul Valentine, Chair
Paul Perlmutter, Vice Chair
Will Smith, City Council Liaison
The meeting of the Transportation Board began at 5:30 p.m. at the City Hall West
building in the CIC Room, Fort Collins, Colorado. Board members present included:
Chairman Paul Valentine, Mark Egeland, Sara Frazier, Donn Hopkins, Tim Johnson,
Kathleen Kilkelly, and Ray Moe. Will Smith, Council Liaison, was present.
Staff present included: Bob Noe, Ron Phillips, Dick Schaffer, Susanne Edminster
and Tom Frazier. Kay Rios with CSU and Ms. Deanie Kelly, visitor, was also
present.
Approval of Minutes: There was an approval of the minutes from the past two
meetings.
Capital Improvement Program: Susanne Edminster presented with the aid of an
overhead chart showing the results of the survey.
There were so many project survey results above 50 percent that, obviously,
a great job had been done in figuring out what the people of the community relate
to and how to catch their attention. If funding is not obtained for all of the projects,
it does not mean that Council will not try to determine an alternative way to
complete the projects.
1. There will be an open house on September 12. This will be the first time
the public will see the list that Council will have to wrestle with.
2. A motion was made to come up with a priority list within $25 million. Paul
Valentine suggested: Pedestrian Improvements, Transit Development Plan, Multi -
Modal, Prospect Road, North College Corridor, Northeast Bypass and Laurel Street.
There were motions to add Shields Street, Harmony Road Bikeway, and Taft
Hill. The list currently stands at $25.8 million.
3. There was group discussion regarding whether or not to prioritize the list
and, if so, in what manner. The top ten out of nearly 200 projects is what will be
submitted to Council. Council will be apprised as to the process undergone to arrive
at the top ten. The list will not be prioritized. If for some reason Council would like
the Board to prioritize the projects, it will be dealt with it at that time.
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4. Even though the recommendations that are made to Council may not
make the final balance, the Board is still making a strong statement to Council that
the projects need to be funded. Operation and maintenance fees for each of the
projects will also be submitted to Council.
Northeast Bypass: The State Highway Department is saying if the effects
are within the city limits, it is probably best handled locally. Federal legislation
mandates that local and state government join forces to prove a need to have trucks
removed from a state highway. There is not opposition to removing trucks from
Riverside, Jefferson, and North College; it is a matter of identifying where they will
need to go. It is imperative that studies are promptly undergone and decisions
made so that funding may be approved.
1. It may be productive to have the Northeast Bypass on the project priority
list now in order to get the design study underway and have time to let other funding
accumulate for the project. It is critical to have the environmental work and
engineering done; State money is contingent on those factors.
2. There was lengthy discussion about whether making a final decision and
then funding the project was the best thing to do; or whether money should be set
for the project and then get something done. The impression from the public is that
there has been enough talking; something should be done.
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3. Donn Hopkins suggested that the North College Corridor and the
Northeast Bypass may be done as one project since whatever decisions are made
with the trucks may affect the North College activity. The two projects would merge
well. Ron Phillips also suggested that if the projects were merged, they may be
funded in phases.
Parking Plan: Tom Frazier, of City, and Kay Rios, of CSU, presentation.
The recommendations need to be tightened down. There is a good idea of what the
revenues and expenditures are going to be. Mr. Frazier and Ms. Rios were looking
for comments and feedback rather than recommendations. There are three parts
to the plan: the CSU neighborhood, the CSU campus, and the Downtown Plan.
CSU's campus section is a study, not a plan.
1. CSU Neighborhood: In the CSU neighborhood, parking congestion
is caused by businesses and rental housing. There is approximately 4,800 parking
spaces to deal with. The parking study indicates that there is about a 1,200 parking
space shortage on campus. Because there is this parking shortage the area is very
chaotic.
After meeting with the people residing in these neighborhoods, the following
suggestions were made:
A. Re -stripe some of the area to provide diagonal parking spaces. Re -
striping would potentially provide 15% more parking spaces. Work crew for this
option is needed to re -stripe and paint curbs.
B. Set up reinforced two-hour parking zones. A work crew for this option
is required to put up signs, paint, and reinforce the time limits. More office staff and
equipment would be needed to process fines incurred.
C. Set up residential permit programs. There would have to be studies
done to select the type of permit program that would be best for the area. Permit
programs are the most restrictive and administratively the most difficult to do. This
is the most expensive option. More people and time would be required for the
enforcement of permits. More office staff and equipment would be needed to
process fines incurred.
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Any decision on the above -mentioned suggestions would be made with
the neighborhood so that they will be aware of their individual impact.
2. CSU Parking Study: The CSU parking study considered issues that
tied into the CSU neighborhood. The focus group included staff, administrators,
students, and representatives of the community that are taking classes.
A. Issues included:
(1) Fines were not high enough to deter the kind of violation rate
that is present. There is a high violation rate.
(2) Increase in the parking permit rates would force people out into
the neighborhoods.
(3) People must be enticed back onto campus. Moby Arena is
free parking. That was re -striped and gained more spaces. There is another free
lot down by Aggie Village that is being reopened.
B. There was a study done, with positive response, asking how many
would support garages; however, there is not the same reaction to financially
supporting the garages. Hopefully, that situation can be addressed through
alternative transportation and not through the construction of garages.
A. Paul Valentine and Deanie Kelly asked whether there was a need for
a long-term parking lot and suggested behind the Holiday Inn as a good place.
However, the problem is that that area would have to be re -zoned. CSU Parking
cannot put money into an area which doesn't generate revenue.
B. Hughes Stadium is a good place for some kind of a park and ride
shuttle system. The stadium is under the athletic department.
C. Kathleen Kilkelly inquired about why the new buildings were not
constructed with an underground parking facility. Kay Rios responded that State
legislature demands that those who park will pay. Cost was more than likely the
issue.
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D. Laurel Street has a few different possibilities: re -striping; remove
parking to provide bikeway. Re -striping would probably be better received by the
merchants. Re -striping may also include lanes of traffic, a bikeway, and parking.
E. There is confusion for visitors and newcomers. The information office
is located at Laurel and Loomis so that people can stop in, get a permit, and be on
their way.
F. Paul Valentine inquired about methods to encourage alternate
methods of transportation. In order to try to encourage alternate methods of
transportation, there are current discussions about staff/faculty bus passes. There
is also a campaign with City staff this fall to push alternative transportation. On
Pitkin, parking was lost but bikeways were gained.
A study conducted comparing pedestrians, bicyclists, and motorists
revealed bicyclists had the overall advantage and the motorists have the least
advantage. We have to appeal to their conscience too.
G. Will Smith suggested that raising the permit fees now would allow the
progress to take place concurrently and would put the economic incentive in place
to reflect the true cost of the parking structures and lots, without burden on the
neighborhood areas.
H. Deanie Kelly noted that permit parking is still third on the list and
people in those impacted neighborhoods are crying for relief. The issue is that the
neighborhood has to be re -addressed with the option to ensure cooperation. She
also inquired about the legality of certain numbers of people in the rentals. Tom
Frazier pointed out that there is a committee in the City dedicated to deal with rental
units and housing issues. Advice from the the City Attorney is that it is not
enforceable.
I. Tim Johnson inquired about the CSU policy going out to freshmen and
their vehicles. Mark Egeland stated that it is CSU's responsibility to paint the picture
that if you bring your vehicle, it is going to be tough. Ms. Rios responded that
emissions control is stressed. When talking to parents, the bus pass is stressed.
It is difficult to tell people not to bring their vehicles. The age of the traditional
student is more mature now. These are people with families and jobs who need
their vehicles to get around.
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4. Downtown Parking: The business generated in the area of Laurel and
Mason is primarily provided by students. When a solution is decided upon, the
merchants would possibly like to be involved.
A. Financing for the maintenance will be provided through our fees and
fines. Replacement or new lots will not be covered. Finestfees will be raised on a
graduated scale. There would be a major maintenance fund setup and kept
constant.
B. Employees and employers would no longer be taking up two-hour
parking spaces because the fines would be higher. The fine would go up with each
successive violation.
C. Should government employees pay for parking? There are two-hour
public parking spaces in the government parking lots. Thoughts raised:
Thl taxpayers paid for the lot.
CSU employees have to pay for parking.
Bus passes could be provided to employees to promote alternate
transportation.
Charge more for parking than for transit.
D. Downtown parking will be addressed at the next meeting.
T NOTES: Tom Frazier gave updates.
1. Kathleen Reavis met with the Colorado Department of Transportation
on the Harmony Interchange improvements. That is going very well. Ray Moe is
also on that team. They will be asking the City of Fort Collins for about $30,000 in
design fees to help design a park & ride.
The park & ride will not be traditional in design. It may have bike lockers,
a connecting bikeway, a mini rest area for more than just a park & ride.
2. The Rail Committee is very strong. There have been a lot of phone
calls and lots of interest.
3. The following plans passed last night: Master Street Plan, Pedestrian
Plan, and the Harmony bikeway project's first phase.
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Reports: Paul Valentine gave the presentation.
1. There was a meeting attended by Planning & Zoning, Advisory,
Natural Resources and Transportation. The meeting was held because the chair
of Air Quality felt overwhelmed by the amount of work that needed to be done on
the City Plan.
Some things learned from the meeting are: To ensure that on any given subject
the Board is the first interaction that staff has. The Board is tied for second place
with the most meetings after Planning and Zoning. Chairs want to meet more often.
2. Staff was asked to keep briefing shorter to allow more time for
questions. Board members will be expected to have read material they get in the
mail.
3. Bulleted reports will be given to Council so they don't have to read our
entire meeting minutes to glean out the actions taken or suggestions. We also want
to do reports to other boards.
Will Smith pointed out that the minutes with the point -by -point letter were
easily digested.
4. Dick Schaffer announced that he is leaving the employ of the City. He
is resigning his position. He will stay in the area.
5. Will Smith noted that it was evident at the Board Chairs meeting that
this Board pretty well has its act together. The Board is well supported by staff.
Some of the other boards are overloaded due to the lack of staff.
6. Nine speed humps will be put into the Clarendon Hills neighborhood.
The speed humps will be paid for by the neighborhood.
7. Two thousand tickets were issued in the first two weeks of camera
radar. In addition to the tickets, the radar does speed monitoring. We should have
speed measurements before and after the program became effective to compare
what begins to happen to the speeds.
A motion was made and seconded to adjourn. Meeting adjourned at 9:23 p.m.