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CITY OF FORT COLLINS
NATURAL RESOURCES ADVISORY BOARD
REGULAR MEETING
281 CONFERENCE ROOM - 281 N. COLLEGE AVE.
FEBRUARY 1, 1995
For Reference: Phil Friedman, NRAB Chair - 493-2959
Chris Kneeland, Council Liaison - 221-2950
Tom Shoemaker, Staff Liaison - 221-6263
Board Members Present
Lisa Steffes, Phil Murphy, Katy Mason, Don Tidd, Craig McGee, Phil Friedman, Tim Johnson
Board Members Absent
Arlene Blum (excused), Bill Miller (excused)
Staff Present
Tom Shoemaker, Sally Maggart
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m.
Introduction of Guests
None
Approval of Minutes
With the following change, Phil Murphy moved and Don Tidd seconded the motion to approve
the minutes of the January 4, 1995 meeting. The motion passed unanimously (7-0).
On Page 5, the first paragraph, Lisa Steffes noted it should read "newspaper"
instead of "cardboard".
Phil Friedman noted that at the last meeting it was suggested that Randy Balok be on this
month's agenda to report on the status of Water Treatment Plant 1. Tom Shoemaker explained
that this month's agenda was originally too full, but he would invite Balok to the meeting next
month.
Poudre River Land Use Framework, Tom Shoemaker
Shoemaker explained that this agenda item will be deferred until next month in order to present
the final draft to the board. Craig McGee felt the document was difficult to read. Shoemaker
noted that a key will be provided with the final draft.
Friedman suggested giving board members the option to pick up large documents when they
become available rather than mailing them in the packets. This would give them a better
opportunity to review the materials prior to the meeting.
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Plan for the Region Between Fort Collins and Loveland, Tom Shoemaker
Shoemaker explained the formal comment review process on the plan is starting. He is seeking
the board's comments before the Planning and Zoning Board meeting in February. Larimer
County will be holding a public hearing next Wednesday, February 8 at 6:30 p.m. in the council
chambers. The plan goes to council in March.
Shoemaker presented a slide show that gave an overview of the plan. He noted the name has
been changed from "The Corridor" to "The Region Between Loveland and Fort Collins" because
it is no longer a continuous corridor even though there are still open areas. The plan
encompasses the area south of Harmony Road to 57th St. north of Loveland and from the
Dakota Hogback east to the Poudre River. The goal is to keep the communities apart in order
to maintain separate identities and the unique rural character in the corridor area. Shoemaker
noted the area will grow together without any action. In some instances, the urban growth areas
of the two communities are one mile apart.
He explained it is a complex, controversial project. There were two different citizen groups
involved in the process; one was a focus group and the other was a task force convened by the
Larimer County Commissioners. Shoemaker said the property rights issues is very strong;
there is a vocal group that says that government regulation without compensation is
unacceptable. The key areas are the foothills to the west, the agricultural areas, the extension
of the Cathy Fromme Prairie south to Trilby Road, the Fossil Creek Reservoir and the Poudre
River. The goal is to preserve the natural areas, protect views and preserve the rural character.
He explained the plan needs joint adoption by Loveland, Larimer County and Fort Collins to
make it happen. It is not a new concept and the planning documents of all three agencies
provide existing policy direction on the area. The adoption of this plan would not ensure it
becoming a reality; other things need to happen as well. There would have to be a revision of
intergovernmental agreements, a focus of action plans, a full time staff person for
implementation and the development of design criteria and standards.
Tim Johnson asked if the board needs to make a recommendation to council. Shoemaker said
yes, the board's comments will be presented to the Planning and Zoning Board at the end of the
month and then to council in March. The county commissioners will make their decision in
March. Loveland has not yet set an adoption plan; their planning commission is backlogged,
but it may be in April.
Friedman asked if the city will hold public hearings. Shoemaker said the public hearing would
be in conjunction with the meeting of the Planning and Zoning Board. There will be a public
hearing in Loveland on February 23. Johnson expressed interest in attending the Loveland
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hearing. He said it is important that all three entities adopt the plan as it was the missing link
in the open space election last year.
Johnson noted that the failure of all three agencies to adopt the plan could hurt future funding
from GO Colorado. Shoemaker noted it is important that supportive people attend the meetings
and hearings.
McGee asked what the variables are to prevent a plan like this from achievement if the plan is
adopted. He noted that if the funds were not immediately available, a developer could buy the
open space and take it off the plan. Shoemaker agreed that this could happen. Friedman felt
a plan exists to be amended. He said this is endemic to the planning and land use concept; it
is necessary to recognize that fact and look at the merits of the plan and improve it to where it
can be most accepted and understood by the majority of people.
Don Tidd felt the plan was good the way it is written. He moved that the board recommend
adoption of the plan. Craig McGee seconded the motion. After the following discussion, the
motion passed unanimously (7-0).
Friedman questioned the zoning overlay issue on page 12. Shoemaker said it would be a smaller
area of focus. Friedman felt the sentence on page 14 was backwards on preserving open space
opportunities and minimizing landfill impact on surrounding areas. He thought it should be
incumbent on those next to the existing area to mitigate. He also noted that Subarea 6 did not
have an alternative scenario and Subarea 8 had an alternative but something was missing under
preservation and implementation. Shoemaker noted that it would have the same preservation
goals and the same implementation technique.
Steffes questioned why Sections 18 and 19 in the airport area were not considered agricultural.
Shoemaker said it was a judgement call because of the winter wheat agricultural pattern in the
area. Local farmers did not think agriculture could stay in that area without assistance. Steffes
though the area should be designated as an agricultural preserve.
Mason asked if the plan could be amended. Shoemaker said it could, but he was not sure how
it would work. There would probably have to be provisional adoptions on changes and all
entities would have to vote on them. There should be more information on that after the county
holds the public hearings.
Proposed Land Acquisition for Storm Drainage, Natural Area and Park Purposes, Tom
Shoemaker
Shoemaker identified the area known as McMurry Annex as a joint acquisition between the three
departments. Natural Resources will purchase the pond and riparian area along the oxbow
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(small stream channel). The Parks Department will build a neighborhood park and Stormwater
is planning a dry creek basin channel
Friedman asked if the natural area portion would be managed differently from the park area.
Shoemaker said the design will incorporate all three areas probably through the use of low wood
fences for separation and different signage.
Lisa Steffes made the motion to recommend purchase of the property. Katy Mason seconded
the motion. The motion passed unanimously (7-0).
Shoemaker notified the board of recent contract closings on the Harmony Gateway property and
the 80-acre Jensen addition on the south side of the Cathy Fromme Prairie. This makes the total
natural areas acquisition at 1,624 acres to date.
March 26 Board Retreat
Shoemaker said Kevin Cook is available for a presentation, but details need to be worked out.
The retreat will be from 12-5 on Sunday, March 26. Friedman suggested a brown bag lunch
meeting on February 15 to finalize the agenda for the retreat. Shoemaker suggested giving
thought to what staff members and areas the board would like to focus on. Sally will check on
the availability of the 281 conference room for the brown bag lunch meeting.
Committee Reports
GROWTH MANAGEMENT: No report. Mason will set a meeting date following
adjournment.
RECYCLING: No report.
NATURAL AREAS: Johnson noted that Randy Balok will give an update on the Water
Treatment Plant 1 at the next meeting.
He reported that the Legacy Park Bridge (behind Lee Martinez Park) over the Poudre is partially
in a wetland area. Although it looks like a minimal amount on impact on the north end, he
wanted to know if this could have been avoided. Shoemaker noted that Natural Resources staff
were asked to look at some specific aspects (rare plants), but did not get involved in siting the
location.
Johnson emphasized the need for communication and reviewing internal projects the same as
outside development. Shoemaker suggested the board send a memo that states the problems.
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EDUCATION: Friedman distributed memos from Edith Felchle on the Recycling
Expo/Environmental Fair exchange and the Natural Resources Advisory Board Environment
Action Awards. He said the committee met to discuss increasing the number of candidates and
improving the thoroughness of the applications. The applications will be sent to schools on
February 10 and there will be a press release prior to June 15 for individuals and organizations
other than schools.
Other Business
Mason asked if council has taken any action on recycling. Shoemaker said it was pulled from
the council agenda based on the board recommendations.
Announcements
Johnson cited a Denver Post article by Joanne Ditmer that reported how tax increases are not
covering the expense of growth. The article said the costs of services to urban and rural areas
are not in proportion to taxes received. Shoemaker will bring copies of the article to the Growth
Management Committee meeting. Copies will also be included in the next board packet.
Shoemaker updated the board on the Dixon Canyon Reservoir. The city has purchased the farm
land and the water is no longer needed for irrigation. The owners are selling 380 shares of
water at a cost of $670,000 to the city. The purchase is made possible through Parks
Department funding.
Shoemaker reported that the kickoff meeting for the City Plan went well. It included an open
house, slide show, small group discussion and a"talk show" discussion. McGee said around 80
people attended, with about 20 staff members present. He said there is confusion on whether
the City Dialogue and the City Plan overlap. Shoemaker said they will be integrated.
Adjournment
The meeting adjourned at 9:10 p.m.