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MINUTES
CITY OF FORT COLLINS
NATURAL RESOURCES ADVISORY BOARD
REGULAR MEETING
281 CONFERENCE ROOM - 281 N. COLLEGE AVE.
OCTOBER 4, 1995
For Reference: Phil Murphy, NRAB Chair
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Gina Janett, Council Liaison
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Tom Shoemaker, Staff Liaison
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Board Members Present
Lisa Steffes, Katy Mason, Phil Murphy, Ed Secor, and Kelly Ohlson. Phil Friedman joined the
meeting at 7:55 p.m.
Board Members Absent
Craig McGee, Bill Miller
Staff Present
Tom Shoemaker, Sally Maggart, Sue Kenney - Natural Resources Department, Felix Lee -
Building and Zoning Department, Doug Swartz - Light & Power
The meeting was called to order at 7:10 p.m.
Guests
Dan Chapin, K-Lynn Cameron - Help Preserve Open Spaces, and Bruce Brown - Latimer County
Weatherization
Approval of Minutes
With the following changes, the minutes of the September 6, 1995 meeting were unanimously
approved:
Kelly Ohlson noted that on page 7, second paragraph, it should read
"review" instead of "code check".
Agenda Review
Phil Murphy noted that he had received an e-mail from Phil Friedman regarding Water Treatment
Plant 1; this will be discussed at the end of the agenda.
Tom Shoemaker said that staff anticipates bringing two new natural area acquisitions to the
November board meeting. He noted that board members have not yet toured the two areas; one
is the Fossil Creek Drainage located on the west side of College across from Fossil Creek
Meadows, and the other one is east of Shields and south of Trilby. Shoemaker asked if board
members would like to tour the areas as a group or individually; most members agreed that a
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group tour would be best. Shoemaker said that he will schedule the tour, provide a map and
invite the Parks and Recreation Board.
Announcements
Katy Mason distributed an article entitled "Not So Fast" from the New York Times magazine.
She announced that members of the Growth Management Committee need to stay after the meeting
to set a committee meeting date and time.
Shoemaker announced that the WREN Pit Reclamation Project was given a Stewardship Award
from Latimer County; the Plan for the Region Between Loveland and Fort Collins was given a
Governor's Smart Growth Award; and the Northern Colorado Regional Planning Study that the
board acted on last month was awarded a Statewide Planning Excellence Award from the
Colorado Chapter of the American Planning Association. In addition, the Foothills North
Tributary Channel Design received a statewide engineering excellence award.
Help Preserve Open Spaces Proposal,.K-Lynn Cameron
K-Lynn Cameron told the Board that she is returning to ask for formal support of the Help
Preserve Open Spaces initiative that will be on the City Council agenda October 17. She noted
that the Parks and Recreation Board voted support at their last meeting.
Phil Murphy asked about Cameron's perception of voter approval. Cameron said that it looks
favorable; there is no organized opposition and a wide spectrum of support. She noted that the
Loveland Chamber of Commerce, the Board of Realtors, the Audubon Society, the Sierra Club,
Citizens Planners, Larimer County Horsemen Association and the Estes Valley Improvement
Association have all expressed support.
Katy Mason moved to support the Help Preserve Open Spaces initiative and express to Council
the Natural Resources Advisory Board's strong backing of the measure. Lisa Steffes seconded
the motion. There being no further discussion, Murphy called for a vote on the motion and it
passed unanimously (5-0).
Tom Shoemaker will prepare a letter of support for the Chair to review. He asked for key points
for inclusion in the letter.
The following suggestions were made:
1. It will tie into the City's ongoing natural area program, integrate with the County and be
an important continuation once the City tax ends.
2. The City will get a direct share.
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3. This will increase the possibility of obtaining future GOCO grants by providing matching
money and partnering.
4. The need is great and the time is now.
Cameron thanked the Board for their support. Kelly Ohlson suggested that the Chair or a
representative of the Board attend the Council meeting on October 17 in support of the initiative.
Murphy said he would attend.
The Board thanked Cameron for her presentation.
Energy Code, Felix Lee, Director, Building and Zoning Department
Lee stated that he hoped the question and answer format that was included in the board's packet
answered the concerns expressed by members at the September meeting. He added that the
proposed energy code is ready to go to Council on October 17. Lee noted that the Building
Review Board endorsed the proposal unanimously on the non-residential portion and by a 5-2 vote
on the residential. He said he is seeking approval from the Natural Resources Advisory Board.
Lee asked for questions and comments from the board. Ohlson asked if the Building Review
Board made any changes to the code in their second vote. Lee answered that they had not
changed anything, but after studying the proposal and getting their questions answered, they voted
to approve the proposal as presented.
Following are the questions asked by the board members and the answers from staff:
1. Why is the energy code updated every ten years rather than on a five year cycle?
The energy code will be reviewed on the same cycle as the building code, with a target
for implementation every four years.
2. Is the referenced dollar amount in question #14 corrected in the text of the code?
The amount noted came from the Affordable Housing Board meeting and is not accurate
as stated.
3. Is the National Association of Home Builders an unbiased information source?
The Northwest Lab researched the data and they felt comfortable with the numbers.
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4. How will the code be enforced?
There will be on -site enforcement as well as plan review.
5. Will a copy of the disclosure form be given to the homeowner?
Yes. There is no statute of limitations on code violations.
6. If code violations are found, would there be follow-up investigation on the builder's
work at other locations?
Yes, enforcement is the key.
How can a house have an adequate air supply yet cannot be "leaky"?
Gas furnaces use combustion air. This should not create a difference in the pressure and
prevent the flue from carrying the combustion products out of the house.
Kelly Ohlson made the motion that the Natural Resources Advisory Board recommend the
adoption of the Revised Energy Code to City Council. Additionally, he wanted the motion to
reflect that, while the code revision represents only a modest improvement, the Board is
supportive of it and does not want it weakened. Katy Mason seconded the motion.
Ed Secor asked if there would be both a residential and a commercial ordinance. Lee answered
that there is one ordinance covering both residential and commercial. Secor asked for more detail
on the commercial. Shoemaker noted that the commercial information was included with the
residential in last month's packet, but it had not been discussed.
Jon McHugh, Energy Service Engineer at Light & Power, explained the ASHRAE 90.1 Code for
commercial buildings. He noted that requirements are different for houses and commercial
buildings. McHugh added that the cost impact is larger in operating a commercial building;
cooling is the primary load in commercial while heating is the primary load in residential. He
noted that this is the first time that the City has had a separate non-residential energy code. He
said that there are standards for commercial energy consumption.
There being no more questions, Murphy called for a vote on the motion recommending adoption
of the August 10, 1995 Energy Code Revision, noting that, while the code revision represents
only a modest improvement, the Board is supportive of it and does not want it weakened. The
motion passed unanimously (6-0).
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Environmental Action Awards, Sue Kenney and Phil Friedman
Sue Kenney said that the Education Committee met on September 21, reviewed the 16 award
nominations, and are recommending three, possibly four, for board approval. Mason asked how
many nominations were in each category. Kenney answered that there were two in wildlife, three
in air quality, five in environmental education, two in recycling, one in hazardous waste and three
in natural areas. Mason asked how the committee decided on the final categories. Friedman
explained that the decision was made on individual applications, not categories.
Friedman noted that one of the finalists, LaserWolf, is a new business that recycles laser
cartridges and there is no way now to tell the permanence of the company or the direct benefit to
Fort Collins. Ohlson said that the committee's concern was that the award should be based on
performance. After further discussion, the board decided to send LaserWolf a letter of
explanation and encourage them to apply again next year.
Friedman cited the city nominations as another topic for consideration. He said that the committee
felt that city applicants were doing their projects in the course of their work and that it would not
be appropriate competition for the other applicants. Friedman added that the committee decided
to have an internal competition within the city. Shoemaker noted that since the rules of the
awards allowed city departments to submit applications, a recognition program would be a good
way to acknowledge city programs. Mason asked if this can be implemented this year.
Shoemaker recommended thinking it through and deciding later on the format for the city awards.
Murphy suggested that the Education Committee discuss it and make a decision.
Murphy asked what the committee needs from the board. Friedman answered that approval of
the recommendations of the three nominees is needed. He also recommended special
acknowledgment for the application from the "Fox Family".
Phil Friedman moved that the Board approve the three nominees for the Environmental Action
Awards, with a special acknowledgment for the "Fox Family", and request that the Education
Committee meet and determine a way to acknowledge the City of Fort Collins' employee
nominees. Ed Secor seconded the motion and it passed unanimously (6-0).
It was noted that the awards will be presented at the first City Council meeting in November.
Ohlson noted that it is important to have the awards at a time that Council is seated. He stressed
the importance of the city -sponsored awards and said that these people deserve acknowledgment
before the seated Council. Shoemaker said he will look at what else is on the Council agenda for
November 7 and will work with the committee on the presentation.
Compost/Recycling Update, Susie Gordon
Susie Gordon, Environmental Planner in the Natural Resources Department, briefed the board on
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the composting and waste reduction efforts and her involvement as part of the recent staff
reorganization. She said progress had been made last year when Jon Ruiz from the City's Policy
Agenda office issued an RFP (Request for Proposal) and awarded the contract to the consulting
firm of R.W. Beck. Gordon explained that Ruiz moved to Utah and the project came to a halt.
She added that she, Shirley Bruns, Recycling Coordinator in the Natural Resources Department,
and Scott Harder in the Water Utility are working together to "jump start" the process. Gordon
said she is asking the board if they agree with the approach and if they will help by expanding the
Recycling Committee into an advisory group that includes the County and the waste haulers.
Ohlson said he was not clear on the purpose of the task force; will it also study the feasibility of
a city trash hauling utility? Gordon responded that Council has approved studying the feasibility
of a city trash hauling utility and the study will be included with the composting component.
Ohlson expressed concern about the trash haulers being on the committee. He said he is worried
that a committee dominated by a vested interest would be biased. Shoemaker noted that the board
can invite other members to join the committee. He explained that having the trash haulers on
the committee will provide active involvement with the board.
Gordon noted that the trash haulers will bring experience to the group in determining what type
of composting facility will work. She added that it will not be a voting group; decisions will come
to the board through the Recycling Committee. Secor said that the trash haulers would have the
ability to help sell the board's decision.
Gordon presented the work schedule. She noted that there will be an introductory meeting on
October 5. Gordon reported that after the first task force meeting, committee members will have
the opportunity for input on scheduling future meetings. Murphy suggested having the task force
meeting scheduled closer to the board meetings for reporting purposes. Gordon said she will
document the decisions and discussions and provide a report to committee members.
Ohlson expressed concern that the trash haulers have not notified their customers that recycling
is part of the trash hauling package. Gordon said that the staff change will help do that.
Ohlson suggested including representatives from Citizens Planners and the Sierra Club on the task
force. Friedman recommended having a representative from the horticultural field. Shoemaker
said that Jim Clark might be a good choice. Gordon emphasized the importance of keeping the
committee at a manageable level. Oblson agreed on the importance of giving the haulers the
opportunity to participate from the ground floor.
The board thanked Gordon for her presentation
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Natural Resources Department Reorganization, Tom Shoemaker
Shoemaker distributed a draft of the proposed Natural Resources Department organizational chart.
He said he will be sending out the final chart with a formal memo. Shoemaker explained that the
board will be seeing different faces and there will be different assignments within the department.
He explained that the reorganization is an effort to move toward a more formal definition of the
program areas: Administration, Clean Air (implementation of the Air Quality Plan),
Environmental Review (involvement in the planning review process), Natural Areas, Waste
Reduction, Special Projects (environmental information, education and outreach activities, and
work outside the department).
Shoemaker said that two new positions were requested for the 1996 budget. He explained that
they were requested as ongoing or permanent but the City Manager recommended them as one
year contractual positions; one is in the air quality program to assist in outreach and education and
the other is an environmental planner in waste reduction. Ohlson asked if there is a movement
in Council of pushing for one, if not both positions, to be permanent. Shoemaker said that the
City Manager's office is now recommending that the air quality information specialist be a
permanent position.
Friedman asked what "one year contractual" meant. Shoemaker explained that there would be
an option to renew or it would be one year with a definite end; the funding does not automatically
continue or discontinue.
Budget Followup, Tom Shoemaker
Shoemaker distributed copies of the board's May 4, 1995 budget memo to Council, the program
budget information, the 1996 Budget Summary and the program sheet for the natural areas budget.
He said tonight he wanted to focus on the board's memo to Council; time will be reserved at the
November meeting to discuss the other areas.
Shoemaker reviewed the status of the recommendations made to Council in the May 4 memo:
1. The Cost of Development Study is adequately funded and proposals should be completed
this year.
2. The City Plan will be completed in a timely manner; funds are committed for completion
next year.
3. The Poudre River Corridor concerns will be handled through GOCO grants and City Plan.
4. The Master Naturalist Program funding has been increased within the capital budget.
5. Funding is included in the budget to pay a share of the Ranger/Naturalist position.
6. The natural area management plans will be completed by the end of 1996. The Foothills
Plan is almost at the public draft stage.
7. With department reorganization, Shoemaker should be able to focus more on the Fort
Collins/Loveland Corridor. There is money in the budget for the No. Co. Planning Study.
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8. At present there is $25,000 budgeted for opening Water Treatment Plant 1 to public use.
There was fear that with more dollars committed to the project some of the partners might
drop out.
9. Solid waste and recycling is being handled with the department reorganization.
In summary, Shoemaker said that all identified issues have been handled well except for Water
Treatment Plant 1 and the item on the special planning study around the Fossil Creek Reservoir.
He noted that Greg Byrne, Community Planning and Environmental Services Director, tried to
get $30,000 budgeted, but it is not happening. Shoemaker noted that Fossil Creek Reservoir is
a critical part of the implementation of the Plan for the Region Between Fort Collins and
Loveland.
Mason asked if the board could reintroduce the Fossil Creek Reservoir budget request. Secor
suggested making one recommendation that includes the other items. Murphy cautioned the board
about "going to the well" too often and asking for money. He suggested the board prioritize what
needs to happen. It was agreed to continue the focus on the funding for Water Treatment Plan
1 and that would be discussed under Other Business.
Other Business
Friedman noted the letter from Tim Johnson questioning Council's cutback on the $80,000 budget
request for Water Treatment Plant 1. Shoemaker said that Council had not been provided the
rationale on the funding amount. He added that there is strong support from Mike Powers and
K-Lynn Cameron in the Parks and Recreation Department, but they do not want to send the
message that the City is providing all the funding and have the partners back off.
Friedman noted that Johnson believes that the partners are more likely to walk away from the
project without the City's $80,000 commitment. Friedman said he also did not understand the
$25,000 amount. Shoemaker said that he will meet with Powers and get his rationale. Mason
said that Council needs to hear a reaffirmation from the Board on the request for $80,000.
Friedman said he is not clear on how the math works.
Shoemaker said he will draft a letter to Council for the Chair's signature and will talk with Powers
to get a better understanding of the request. Friedman said he will talk with Johnson.
Shoemaker notified the board that he has not yet had a chance to speak with Don Tidd about his
resignation. He said that the opening cannot be advertised until Tidd has formally resigned.
Adjournment
The meeting adjourned at 10:35 p.m.