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MINUTES
CITY OF FORT COLLINS
NATURAL RESOURCES ADVISORY BOARD
REGULAR MEETING
CITY HALL WEST - 300 LA PORTE AVE.
JULY 16,1997
For Reference: Phil Murphy, NRAB Chair -
491-6303
Bill Bertschy, Council Liaison -
484-0181
Tom Shoemaker, Staff Liaison -
221-6263
Board Members Present
Bill Miller, Phil Murphy, Jan Behunek, Craig McGee, Kelly Ohlson, Ed Secor, Randy Fischer and
Don Rodriguez
Board Members Absent
Phil Friedman
Staff Present
Natural Resources Dept,: Sally Maggart, Tom Shoemaker, Rob Wilkinson
Stormwater Dent.: Kevin McBride, Marsha Hilmes, Glen Schlueter and Link Mueller
Guests
Sally Craig, Planning and Zoning Board member
The meeting was called to order at 9:40 p.m., following a presentation on the Transportation Master
Plan and the Timberline Road, Final Design with the Transportation Board.
Introduction of new members: Randy Fischer and Don Rodriguez
Review and Approval of Minutes
With the following changes, the minutes of the June 4, 1997 meeting were approved as written:
Ed Secor said that he is confused about the statement on the bottom of Page 2 referencing
how much zoning is happening. Staff will clarify at the next meeting:
Kelly Ohlson noted that the decision on Page 4 should read "for eliminating gassing this
year" Ohlson explained the comments made by Katy Mason on Page 5 about improving
mechanisms to get information to all council members.
Ed Secor asked for a revised list of City Plan indicators. Staff will provide this in the next
packet.
Natural Resources Advisory Board
July 16, 1997
Page 2
Announcements
Craig McGee noted that his work number is 416-0692 and fax number is 416-0809.
Tom Shoemaker said that he working with the attorney's office to negotiate a contract on the 960
acre McKee acquisition. This is a joint acquisition with Larimer County and Loveland located
between Shields and Taft Hill.
Presentation on the Use of Rip -Rap: Kevin McBride, Stormwater Utility
Kevin McBride, Senior Engineer, presented slides that showed different types of rip rap construction.
McBride explained the results of increased water flow, erosion handling, ecological problems and
the use of insects as main indicators for aquatic health and water quality. Link Mueller, Senior
Engineer, noted that the Stormwater Department is attempting to engineer projects to provide for
habitat issues.
ISSUE
• Rip rap can be covered, but if flows are extreme, it is difficult to do.
• Rip rap is an inexpensive means for erosion control.
• The use of rip rap is different on a site -to -site basis.
• City Plan has changed a lot of the regulations and requires a 100-300 foot buffer adjacent to
streams.
• In non -storm flow situations, storm water is relatively clean compared to stream standards.
• Bio-monitoring is the key to monitoring stream flows; insects and macro invertebrates are
not that mobile.
• There is a monitoring station on Spring Creek. Pesticides have never been found there.
• Suggest varying the size and gradation of the rock used. Eliminate the use of pink rock.
• The big issue is taking out trees and the habitat at Heatheridge.
• The two main issues are aesthetics and habitat.
• Regulations need to be enforced.
• Recommend monitoring the water quality and comparing every five years.
DECISION
• Habitat assessments will be done to look at the potential to restore habitats or do flood
control measures.
• A Sediment and Control Inspector has been added to the budget. Staff will see if rip rap
inspection can be included in the job duties.
• The design criteria for erosion control is being revised. Revisions will be brought to the
board.
• Monitoring of the ecology of the system should drive the aesthetics.
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July 16, 1997
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Staff will advise the board if something is used other than white rock.
A technical advisory committee will meet on July 25 to focus on water quality, different
alternatives and what an appropriate level of treatment is.
Natural Areas and Street Costs: Tom Shoemaker
Shoemaker reported that the city attomey's office has determined that this is a dead issue given that
sales taxes are passed for specific purposes. The exception would be if a new street is needed to
access a natural area and is called for in the management plan.
Budget Ad -hoc Committee: Phil Murphy
Chair Murphy said that three or four volunteers are needed to form a subcommittee to work with
Shoemaker on budget issues. Kelly Ohlson, Bill Miller and Phil Murphy volunteered to be on the
committee. Murphy will ask absent board member Phil Friedman is he is interested. Staff will
arrange a meeting.
Retreat Plans: Phil Murphy
A retreat is planned for Wednesday, August 6 to meet staff, discuss roles and clarify responsibilities.
Council liaison Bill Bertschy will not attend the retreat; a future meeting will be set up with him.
The retreat will be an opportunity to work through concerns in a positive way. A special board
meeting will be held Wednesday, August 20.
Adjournment
The meeting adjourned at 11:30 p.m.