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PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MINUTES
MAY 23, 1988
The regular meeting of the Planning and Zoning Board was called to order at
6:35 p.m. in the Council Chambers, 300 LaPorte Avenue, Fort Collins, Colorado.
Board members present included Don Crews, Sandy Kern, Dave Edwards,
Sharon Brown, Jim Klataske, and Chairperson Laurie O'Dell. Member Bernie
Strom was not present.
Staff members present included Planning Director Tom Peterson, Joe Frank,
Ted Shepard, Debbie DeBesche, Mike Herzig, Linda Ripley, Sherry Albertson -
Clark, Peter Barnes, Renee Joseph, and Consultant Eldon Ward.
Legal representative was Paul Eckman.
Chairperson Laurie
O'Dell stated that this would be
Member Sharon
Brown's
last Planning and
Zoning Board meeting after being
on the Board
for five
years. She stated
that what impressed her about Member Brown
was her
understanding of issues
and her ability to translate
this understanding into
probing questions.
Chairperson O'Dell presented Member Brown with
a plaque
and added that the
Board wished her well in her new
pursuits.
Member Brown stated that this was unexpected and she would reserve her
remarks until later.
Member Edwards took a moment to remember Tom Sutherland. He stated that
if Tom Sutherland is not released before the Board meeting in June, Tom will
have been in captivity for three years. He stated Tom served on the Planning
and Zoning Board for over six years, from April 1969 to October 1975. He
added that the Tom Sutherland Fund was established by Tom's wife, Jean, to
carry on his work while he was in captivity. Member Edwards brought atten-
tion to the Bob Cooney poster that depicts a cedar tree in Lebanon and that
the yellow ribbon around the tree signified the release of the hostages. He
stated he was convinced of Tom's belief in agricultural production as a means
of peace and prosperity.
Planning Director Tom Peterson reviewed the Consent and Discussion Agenda.
The Consent Agenda included: Item 1, Minutes of the April 25, 1988 meeting
(continued until the June 27,1988 meeting); Item 2, #31-83B Stanton Creek PUD
- Master Plan; Item 3, #31-83C Stanton Creek PUD, Phase 1 - Preliminary; Item
4, #57-86G Sunstone Village PUD, 3rd Filing - Final; Item 5, #32-84C Auto
Avenue Mall PUD - Final; Item 6, #53-85Q Centre for Advanced Technology
PUD, Parcel Q - Preliminary; Item 7, 024-80M Fort Collins Club Office Park
PUD - Final; Item 8, #12-78F Foothills Fashion Mall PUD, Phase 2 - Amended
Preliminary and Final, Foothills East PUD, Phases 1 and 2 -Preliminary, and
Foothills East PUD, Phase 1 - Final; Item 9, #144-80G Quail Hollow PUD, 3rd
Filing -Final; Item 10, #58-86B Richard's Lake PUD, Parcel A -Preliminary and
Final; Item 11, #19-85C Cache La Poudre Industrial Park PUD -Preliminary
and Final; Item 12, #3-73 Resolution PZ 88-6 Vacation of a Utility Easement
in Lot 1 and the Easterly 100 Feet of Lot 2, Foothills Green 1st Filing; Item
13, #26-88,A Timan Annexation & Zoning; and, Item 14, #41-88 Kitchell Subdi-
vision -Preliminary -County Referral.
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Mr. Peterson noted Item 10, Richard's Lake PUD, Parcel A - Preliminary and
Final, and Item 11, Cache La Poudre Industrial Park PUD - Preliminary and
Final, would be continued to the June 27, 1988 meeting. The Discussion
Agenda included: Item 15, 032-88 Friendship Homes, Inc. - Group Home; Item
16, #37-88 Mountain Park Homes - Change of Non Conforming Use; Item 17,
#16-8813 Stitch -Tee Warehouse - Expansion of a Non -Conforming Use; Item 18,
#20-87A 1990 Junior High School (continued until the June 27 meeting); Item
19, #34-88 Interstate Lands First - Annexation (continued until the June 27
meeting); Item 20, #35-88 Interstate Lands Second - Annexation (continued until
the June 27 meeting); Item 21, #38-88 Interstate Lands Tract A - Zoning
(continued until the June 27 meeting); Item 22, #39-88 Interstate Lands Tract B
- Zoning (continued until the June 27 meeting); and, Item 23, #48-88 Conve-
nience Shopping Center Policies, Design Guidelines and Code Amendments.
Member Kern pulled Item 3, Stanton Creek PUD, Phase I - Preliminary, from
the Consent Agenda for further discussion.
Member Edwards stated he had a conflict with, and abstained voting from,
Item 7, Fort Collins Club Office Park PUD - Final; Item 9, Quail Hollow PUD,
3rd Filing - Final; and Item 14, Kitchell Subdivision - Preliminary - County
Referral.
Member Crews moved to approve Consent Agenda Items 2, 4, 5, 6, 8, 12, and
13. Member Kern seconded. Motion passed 6-0.
Member Kern moved to approve Consent Agenda Items 7, 9, and 14. Member
Crews seconded. Motion passed 5-0.
STANTON CREEK PUD, PHASE 1 - PRELIMINARY
Member Kern stated there were some questions raised during the work session
regarding this "cookie cutter" development. He asked about the layout of the
land and plat, as well as the straightness of the streets.
Ted Shepard stated that these concerns had been relayed onto the developer.
Member Kern asked if staff was convinced the layout would work.
Ted Shepard replied that staff was convinced. He commented that the drain-
age was acceptable, and that the streets were less than 3% in grade and will
allow for a positive drainage system.
Member Kern moved to approve Stanton Creek PUD, Phase I - Preliminary.
Chairperson O'Dell stated that LDGS Criteria #2 stated the development must
be compatible and sensitive to the immediate environment, including the
disposition and orientation of the buildings on the lot and the visual integrity.
She asked if the project met this criteria.
Ted Shepard replied that the project does meet this criteria.
Member Edwards seconded.
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• Member Brown indicated, for her own clarification, under the land use in
staff's memo, the first phase does not contain a planned neighborhood park nor
a green belt along Stanton and Fossil Creek. These areas will be included in
future phases as the parcel develops from west to east. Therefore, points are
not awarded for future open space amenities. She asked why 20 points had
been awarded when reviewing at the point chart.
Ted Shepard stated this was due to the proximity of the project to Fossil
Creek Park, which City Parks and Recreation had purchased.
Motion to approved passed 6-0.
FRIENDSHIP HOMES, INC. - GROUP HOME
Debbie deBesche gave the staff description of the project.
Dorothy Stout, the applicant, stated the main purpose of the home was to serve
those people who are not ready to be placed in a nursing home but require 24
hour care. She commented that she would help the residents with their meals,
laundry, cleaning their rooms, and taking medication. She stated that the
residents' families would be involved with the home, i.e., birthdays, special
occasions, etc. She indicated the reason she chose the area was because of its
closeness to the hospital and doctors. She stated that none of the residents
drive cars but they need assistance provided for them. She stated that at the
present time, she has three persons in the home which require this type of
care. She stated that, at the neighborhood meeting, the largest opposition issue
• was future hospital expansion plans. She commented that this should not be a
concern because her home would not have any influence on what the hospital
does.
Debbie deBesche stated that staff recommended approval with the following six
conditions: (1) that the home be limited to four (4) elderly individuals; (2) that
a maximum of two (2) staff persons work in the home at any one time; (3)
that the elderly residents would not be allowed to drive nor store automobiles
on the property; (4) that the home be restricted to the site plan submitted and
there will be no exterior changes, other than minor facial changes (new
awning, correct a porch defect, etc.); (5) that there will be no signage for the
group home; and (6) that the yard and landscaping be maintained in an orderly
manner.
Member Crews inquired about the second condition
Dorothy Stout stated that she currently lives in the home. She added a
volunteer registered nurse and a part-time paid employee also help out.
Member Edwards asked Ms. deBesche to state the differences between a rezon-
ing, a variance, and a special review.
Ms. deBesche stated that the zoning is RL, Low Density Residential, and that
this application is not requiring a change in zoning. She stated that group
homes are allowed in RL zonings but they have to meet certain criteria.
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Member Kern pointed out that this was not a rezoning issue but a special
review.
Dave Yust stated that the home began in October 1987 without a license. He
commented that Ms. Stout intentionally began this home without local approval
and is in violation with the neighborhood covenant. He added that he sees
this as a crack in the covenant.
Paul Eckman stated that protective covenants are private devices in subdivi-
sions to limit land use and to provide for regulation. He commented what
protective covenants provide for or do not provide for should be taken up in
court if there is a dispute. He added that these are private matters.
Chairperson O'Dell asked if Mr. Yost could seek other means for his concerns.
Paul Eckman stated that if the neighborhood felt the covenant has been viol-
ated, they might consult with a private attorney to see what remedies are
available to them.
Member Kern asked if any rulings at this meeting would override the cove-
nants.
Paul Eckman stated that the rulings are separate and would have no affect.
Member Edwards stated that, for further clarification, when it comes to the
enforceability of private covenants, neither the Planning and Zoning Board nor
the City are in a position to hear these issues.
Paul Eckman stated that this was correct
Member Brown commented that any decisions made by this Board should not
discourage anyone's actions toward this matter.
Al Hilderman stated that he bought his land because it was low density. He
stated he did not agree with the group home in this area.
Member Crews asked Ms. deBesche to review the criteria for group homes so
the audience would be aware of them.
Ms. deBesche stated that the basic criteria for a group homes is as follows:
1. Group Homes in RL zones shall conform to a lot area and lot separation.
In this case, the lot has to have a minimum of 6,000 sq. ft. per each three
residents.
2. Group Homes have to be 1,500 ft. from any other group home within the
city.
3. Other issues reviewed include building height and setback, building
coverage, external signage, traffic, parking, and compatibility of the
architectural design with the existing neighborhood.
Paul Eckman stated that the Code also stated that the Board can specify the
type of group home, i.e., elderly, handicapped, etc.
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Member Kern pointed out that this was stated mandated; that any zone is
• eligible for a group home.
Don Barrett stated that he supported the approval of the group home. He
informed the Board that his mother-in-law and father are presently in the
home. He commented that he was happy with the results, that the home was
well kept, and that group homes are allowed in this zoning. He added there
was no traffic problem. He stated that Ms. Stout does an excellent job taking
care of the elderly.
Chuck Rhodes asked, for clarification, as to how the home started without the
City's permission. He stated he was against the project for the reason that it
began without approval. He added he was not against the project for the use
of the property.
Peter Barnes stated that a lot of
uses
are started without the City's permission.
He stated that
on December 29,
1987,
he received a formal complaint. A notice
was then sent
to the owner and
occupants. This notice stated the property had
to be brought
into conformance
with
City Code. The two ways this could hap-
pen are: 1) discontinue the use,
or
2) get approval from the Planning and
Zoning Board.
He stated that if
the home was denied by the Board, the owner
would have to
discontinue the use
as
a group home and evict one resident.
Member Brown inquired about the requirement of state licensing.
Mr. Barnes stated the licensing application can be submitted if the Board
approves the group home.
Member Brown inquired about the status of the occupancy.
Mr. Barnes stated the City can not issue a certificate of occupancy at
the
present time until the home is approved.
Chairperson O'Dell asked that, since the home is not in conformance with
the
Code, if it is not the City's position to punish at this point.
Mr. Barnes stated that the Code orders removal of the violation and that
the
applicant has taken the appropriate steps at this point.
Member Brown asked if the normal course of events were to legalize the
use,
then make application to the State for licensing, and then to move people
into
the home.
Mr. Barnes replied that this was correct.
Member Brown asked what would happen if the State did not approve
the
license immediately.
Mr. Barnes replied that the City would issue a temporary license to cover
the
State's back log.
Paul Eckman stated that if the State rejected the application, the City would
• revoke the temporary certificate of occupancy.
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Mr. Barnes stated that the zoning code does not deal with operational issues of
the group home.
Mr. Rhodes wondered if the Board was being put in an awkward position by
knowing Ms. Stout has been in violation of the Code but would approve the
proposal anyway.
Member Kern stated the Board was not able to make legal judgments.
Paul Eckman stated that he detected some resentment that this use was able to
be established before going through the necessary channels. He stated that the
populous was on notice by virtue of the City Code and can only become aware
when a violation is reported.
Mr. Rhodes commented that it was up to concerned citizens to take action
when they see these things happening.
Paul Eckman stated that in this case, a concerned citizen informed the City
that there might be a violation.
Mr. Rhodes stated that he assumed the Board was the proper authority to
handle the violation.
Member Brown stated that when something like this happens, the Board will
try to resolve the situation out of court, rather than kick the people out of the
home.
Member Klataske commented that, as landowners, there is a responsibility to
see that we are not in violation of City Codes.
Howard Bruner stated he thought he had selected a high quality area of living
when he purchased his home. He commented at the meeting a few weeks ago
that it was almost unanimously decided by the residents in the area that this
group home should not be permitted. He stated it was poor business manage-
ment to start a business without following the proper procedures. He stated it
was the Board's primary concern to consider the individuals that moved into
the area years ago. He added he was concerned that a whole row of group
homes could be started along Pitkin because someone could see this as a
money -making business.
Chairperson O'Dell stated that a whole row of group homes along Pitkin was
not possible. The City will not approve another group home within 1,500 feet
of this group home.
Mr. Bruner stated his real concern is that the neighborhood is totally helpless
in this situation where the hospital is buying homes in the area.
Member Kern stated he has been in the same situation with business invading
his neighborhood. But he restated this is an allowable use and there is little
the Board can do about it.
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• Paul Eckman commented the State statutes do require the cities in Colorado
from prohibiting group homes for elderly and the developmentally disabled in
various zones.
Debbie DeBesche stated the use is permitted in the RL zones. The RL zones
include: single family dwellings, public and private schools for elementary and
high school education, public and quasi -public non-profit and recreational use,
public utility installations and facilities for the protection and welfare of the
surrounding areas, churches, and group homes subject to special review.
James Kasai stated he is opposed to the project. He commented Ms. Stout
intentionally began and continued to operate the home without local approval
or licensing. He stated she has not acted in good faith with the City, State
and neighborhood.
Jack Vilms
stated
he is also
opposed to the project. He commented the prop-
erty values
in the
area rest
on the zoning and a change or impairment of the
zoning will
effect
the value
of the homes.
Member Kern inquired if there is any evidence that group homes effect the
value of property in neighborhoods.
Tom Peterson stated no studies have been conducted as to this issue.
Shirley Barrett informed her mother has been in the home for the past three
• years. She said she can not see where having a group home in a neighborhood
effects the property value of other homes.
Member Edwards moved to approve the special application of Friendship
Homes, Inc. - Group Home with the six conditions as stated by staff and
reserved his comments to see if there would be a second.
Member Crews seconded.
Member Edwards stated a group home is an allowable use in the RL zone.
The City does have the opportunity to review the application and a decision is
made based on the criteria. He indicated comments were made by audience
members that the applicant is in violation now, so deny the application. This is
not one of the criteria the Board reviews and therefore is not a valid point.
He continued, if every neighborhood said they did not want group homes the
City would have to set aside an area for group homes; this is not feasible. He
added all must share in accommodating for the needs of the elderly.
Member Kern inquired about he suitability of this particular house for the use
of a group home.
Debbie DeBesche stated the State looks at the size and number of bedrooms.
Member Kern commented the house does not appear to have a basement and
was concerned if each person would have their own bedroom.
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Ms. Stout informed the house has five bedrooms, three on the main floor and
two in the basement.
Member Brown stated the building meets the criteria for group homes. She
commented she does share the concern that the applicant did not follow the
proper procedures for starting a group home.
Member Kern stated as long as the home is maintained and that there is no
knowledge that there is a decrease in the property value, he has to decide if
this is an appropriate placement for a group home. He indicated he does feel
this is an appropriate use and therefore supports the motion.
Member Crews stated he agreed with the other Board members. He added the
Board makes land use decisions, not legal decisions.
Member O'Dell stated she also supported the motion
Motion passed 6-0.
MOUNTAIN PARK HOMES - CHANGE OF NON -CONFORMING USE
Sherry Albertson -Clark gave the staff description of the project.
David Herrera stated he had asked for a change of a non -conforming use. He
commented presently the site is a mobile home park with one home on the
land. He suggested the present use is not appropriate. He informed the
proposal is to redevelop the land into high density residential housing.
Sherry Albertson -Clark stated the site plan was designed with the three
variances in mind. The variances are: 1. reduce the required parking lot
setback along Mountain from 10 ft. to 7 ft. behind the sidewalk; 2. reduce the
required number of parking spaces from 41 to 28 (based on one vehicle per
unit, opposed to 1.5 per unit); and 3. reduce the amount of required interior
parking lot landscaping from 436 sq. ft. to 210 sq. ft. She commented in
reviewing a non -conforming use change the criteria are as follows: 1. nature of
proposed expansion, 2. size of proposed expansion; 3. difference in the degree
of use of the non -conforming use as a result of the proposed expansion; 4.
reasons for the proposed expansion; and, 5. overall impact of the proposed
expansion on the surrounding property.
Member Kern asked for the definition of elderly and inquired if the housing
was restricted to the elderly.
Mr. Herrera stated elderly is defined as individuals 62 years or older. He
informed the proposal did not provide for family housing in an elderly devel-
opment.
Member Kern inquired what would happen if an 80-year old were to have a
20-year old spouse. Would they be able to live in this housing.
Mr. Herrera stated in this case alternative housing would be found
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Member Brown inquired if non -elderly handicapped would be allowed in the
housing.
Mr. Herrera stated the project is designed for independent living.
Member Crews inquired if there would be income restrictions. He also was
concerned about the parking.
Mr. Herrera stated there would be income restrictions and a limited number of
cars allowed.
Chairperson O'Dell inquired who would take care of the walks and mainte-
nance.
Mr. Herrera stated there would be a maintenance crew with the necessary
equipment to handle these things.
Paul Eckman informed
the Code
states in considering
a change to a non-
conforming use the Board
shall make
findings as to whether
or not the use is
more compatible to the
surrounding
area than the existing
non -conforming use.
Member Crews moved to approve the Mountain Park Homes -Change in a Non -
Conforming Use based on the findings that this change in a non -conforming
use will be more compatible than the previous non -conforming use; and, based
on the understanding that elderly is anyone over 62 and that children are not
allowed to live in the development.
Paul Eckman stated he assumed by Member Crews' motion that all residents
have to be 62 years or older.
Member Crews stated at least one individual has to be 62 years or older.
Chairperson O'Dell inquired about handicapped non -elderly people.
Member Crews stated he was restricting his motion to elderly individuals based
on the parking restrictions.
Member Kern seconded.
Chairperson O'Dell inquired if this was acceptable to Mr. Herrera to restrict
the housing to elderly.
Mr. Herrera stated this is a housing policy decision for non -elderly handicapped
individuals to reside in the housing. He commented he would like to keep the
housing to the elderly.
Member Kern inquired in what way does the site become less compatible with
the use. He stated there may be a need for more flexibility.
Mr. Herrera commented on the parking issue. He stated he would file cove-
nants to restrict the number of vehicles a resident could park. Within the
lease, restrictions would state that only one vehicle would be allowed per
household. He stated this would constrain any future use of the property.
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Member Edwards asked Member Crews and Member Kern to make a clarifica-
tion as to the word elderly.
Member Crews stated at least one resident would have to be 62 years or older,
but not both.
Paul
Eckman
restated the motion:
. . .at least one person of 62 years or older,
but
not both,
no children allowed
to reside in the units, and spouses or friends
can
reside in
unit no matter what
their age.
Chairperson O'Dell stated that was the intent of the motion.
Paul Eckman inquired if the lease restriction of one vehicle per unit would be
included in the motion.
Member Crews stated this was acceptable to him as the motioner.
Chairperson O'Dell stated she did not support the motion. She commented the
project is a great development but did not like the motion. She indicated she
would like to see the State Housing Authority decide who would reside in the
units.
Motion denied 4-2.
Chairperson O'Dell requested that a positive motion be made.
Member Edwards moved to approve the Mountain Park Homes -Change of Non -
Conforming Use, based on the findings that this change in a non -conforming
use will be more compatible than the previous non -conforming use, and that
the age and non -elderly handicapped residents be left to the decision of the
housing authority.
Member Klataske seconded.
Member Kern stated he does not object to the intent of the proposal but he
does not like the additional factor added into the decision at this late date.
Motion passed 4-2.
STITCH-TEC WAREHOUSE - EXPANSION OF A NON -CONFORMING USE
Sherry Albertson -Clark gave the staff description of the project.
Dick Rutherford stated since the neighborhood meeting there had been a few
minor changes made to the building. These changes included: 1. The original
building was to extend straight north 60,000 sq. ft. in addition to the building.
Now because of zoning lines the building has to have a setback of 30 ft.,
therefore changing the dimensions of the building to accommodate the setback.
2. The building will be extended 25 ft. to the north. 3. There will be an
increase in the density of the landscaping along the new addition. 4. There
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will be landscaping provided around the parking lot by adding 6% of the
parking lot as additional landscaping. And, 5. The storm drainage report has
been completed and there is on -site storm detention provided.
Member Kern inquired about the tractor parking. He wondered if the trucks
will keep their motors running while parked.
Greg Conger stated no trucks will be sitting idling and running.
Member Kern inquired how tall the trailers are in height.
Mr. Conger stated approximately 14 ft. high.
Member Kern stated he was concerned about the noise and inquired if the
landscaping will help buffer the noise.
Mr. Rutherford informed when the landscaping matures it will hide the trail-
ers.
Member Brown stated she had visited the site and noted six tractors, four
trailers, and four tractors with trailers attached sitting in front of the
building.
Member Crews inquired if there would be no loading at the rear of the build-
ing; the north side of the building.
Mr. Conger stated presently all traffic is handled through the south end of the
building. He informed 99% of the business is bottling products and this is
handled through the south door.
Member Kern inquired why is this project being handled as a non -conforming
use rather than a PUD.
Tom Peterson stated when the City annexed the property less than one month
ago, the City placed a PUD condition on the property so that any future
development would be considered a non -conforming use.
Member Edwards inquired about the landscaping around the building. He
asked if it would meet City requirements.
Mr. Conger stated there would be no landscaping within four feet from the
building.
Mr. Rutherford stated the landscaping would meet City requirements.
Member Brown inquired if the facility operated 24 hours per day.
Mr. Conger stated train traffic is not on a 24 hour basis, but truck traffic is
(from the south end of the building). He informed the expansion will lesson
the truck traffic because the business will be able to keep a supply on hand.
Member Brown inquired about the unloading of the train cars.
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Mr. Conger stated 10 cars are unloaded per day.
Member Brown inquired where and how long the empty cars sit.
Mr. Conger stated they back the full cars in on the center line. He commented
the empty cars stay there until the local comes at 2:00 p.m. the next day. He
added two shifts unload five cars, totaling the 10 cars per day.
Sherry Albertson -Clark stated staff recommends approval of the project based
on consistency with the following criteria: 1. Nature of the proposed expansion;
2. The size of the proposed expansion; 3. The difference in the degree of use
of the non -conforming use as a result of the proposed expansion; 4. The
reasons for the proposed expansion; and 5., The overall impact of the proposed
expansion on the surrounding property.
Leonard Ewy stated this is the first time anyone from Stitch -Tee has been
present for discussion of the project. He informed when the neighborhood
meeting was held Stitch-Tec and the landowners refused to come. He suggested
the Board withhold approval until the neighborhood received more information
concerning the proposal.
Chairperson O'Dell stated when the motion was made for the annexation of the
land, the motion included that a neighborhood meeting would be required.
Tom Peterson stated this was correct. The motion included that a neighbor-
hood meeting would be held, which was on May 5, 1988.
Virgil Cline stated he had questions regarding air handling, the noise of the
air conditioning, and the water run-off from the existing building. He
commented he agreed the Board should deny the project until further informa-
tion is given to the neighborhood.
Robert Kopitgh inquired how high the berms would be, what type of trees
would be used for the landscaping, and why trucks are using Timberline Road
when I-25 is less than a mile away. He stated during the winter months the
trucks would probably stay running. He was concerned if there would be
fueling on the site, and what type of compounds would be used to clean the
trucks.
Member Edwards asked Mr. Cline and Mr. Kopitgh to present their additional
questions at this time.
Sherry Albertson -Clark stated
she would answer
the three questions
regarding
the landscaping. First, with
a non -conforming use
the review of
the
site plan
is restricted as to how it relates
to the proposed
change. Second,
the
berms on
the north edge and cast side
of the parking area will be three
feet
and two
feet respectively. Third, she
read from a plant
list which stated
the
proposed
vegetation.
Mr. Rutherford commented in regards to the storm drainage concern. He
stated all the water from the existing and proposed buildings will go north to
the detention pond.
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Mr. Conger stated there are no plans to heat or cool the proposed facility. He
indicated the building will be two feet higher to allow for bottle storage. He
stated the trucks driving down Timberline Road needed a route that would
alleviate unexpected traffic problems.
Member Edwards inquired if the variance for the trucks to drive on Timber-
line Road was to allow the trucks not to stop at the weigh station on 1-25.
Chairperson O'Dell inquired how the City feels about the traffic on Timberline
and Prospect.
Tom Peterson stated the roads are built to handle this type of traffic. He
added this was the first time he had heard that the State had granted a
variance.
Mr. Cline stated in regards to the trucking issue, the State Transportation
Department can distribute red A's that designate trucks that are able to pull
through the weigh stations and continue on. He suggested that this be done
for these trucks to alleviate the traffic on Timberline Road.
Mr. Conger informed trucks would be cleaned on site. He stated the process
would be similar to a car wash. He doubted toxic chemicals would be used.
As to fueling on site, he stated he was unable to answer this question.
Member Brown inquired if the two, five car per day shift was currently being
met.
. Mr. Conger stated the expansion would reduce the activity around the facility.
Member Brown inquired with the expansion, would more materials be delivered.
Mr. Conger stated no. The same schedule would be maintained.
Member Brown inquired about additional bottles.
Mr. Conger stated a two week supply would be kept on hand to eliminate addi-
tional truck traffic.
Member Klataske inquired about the train lines.
Mr. Conger stated the main line is more or less the border of the project. He
informed the switch for the tracks is not on the site plan.
Member Klataske stated he was concerned about the crossing signal and
inquired why the rail cars are allowed to go south of the insulated joint.
Mr. Conger stated the signals stay activated when the railroad has to move cars
that the mule can not move. He commented Stitch-Tec does not cross the road.
Occasionally, because of a backup of cars the railroad has to move box cars
and this effects the crossing signals, he added.
• Member Klataske inquired if the mule was used to take cars across the road.
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Mr. Conger stated he does not have access to that line.
Member Brown inquired if there is an activation switch on the line that
Stitch-Tec uses. She asked if it has been disconnected or removed.
Mr. Conger stated only the railroad can activate the switch when they use that
spur.
Member Edwards moved to approve the
of Stitch-Tec Warehouse. He stated he
Attorney as to whether this expansion
expression of findings or not.
Expansion of the Non -Conforming Use
had not heard from the Assistant City
of a non -conforming use requires the
Paul Eckman stated the Code states the Board shall make findings as to
whether or not the expansion of the non -conforming use adversely effects the
surrounding properties.
Member Edwards added to the motion: and, the Board finds the expansion
would not adversely effect the surrounding properties. Member Klataske sec-
onded.
Member Crews stated he wished someone from the trucking company were pre-
sent to answer questions regarding the washing of trucks.
Tom Peterson stated the water for washing the trucks would be recycled. He
added the detergents would go into the sanitary sewer system.
Member Brown inquired if there would be fueling on the site how would the
fuel be stored.
Tom Peterson stated the project seems to be appropriate in terms of the
trucking operation, especially the parking lot, washing and fueling. He
suggested the Board remove these items from their review because it is an
accessory use but does not effect the acceptance of the project.
Paul Eckman suggested the Board should put a condition on the approval that
there be no washing or fueling on the site.
Member Edwards stated he would be in agreement to this amendment to the
motion.
Member Klataske inquired if the loading and unloading areas could be
switched from the south entrance to the north. He stated this was advisable
because during the winter months diesel trucks would stay running, and the
switch would move the tractors further away from the residential area.
Mr. Conger stated there would be no problem with switching the tractor and
trailer parking.
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Member Kern commented he agreed with Member Klataske. He stated he is
aware during the winter months diesel trucks stay running. He asked Sherry
Albertson -Clark why the original document of the proposal had a two year
condition placed on the variance and this proposal does not.
Sherry Albertson -Clark stated the City attorney indicated that was not the
proper way to handle the situation and therefore the two year variance was
deleted from the report.
Member Kern stated when the land was annexed a neighborhood meeting and a
PUD condition was placed on the project. Now the proposal is actually a
doubling of a non -conforming use. He stated he finds this strange and this
strains the approach of the project as a PUD.
Tom Peterson stated when the proposal originally came in the expansion pro-
posed was small and when the applicant and staff talked the land was IL
limited industrial zoned without the PUD condition. Then the Board attached
the PUD condition that City Council later ratified. He stated the applicant
was informed that the PUD condition would apply at such a time when there
is an additional building and expansion.
Member Kern inquired what the difference is between an addition and an
expansion.
Tom Peterson stated it is a semantic difference they are dealing with at this
• point. He commented Sherry Albertson -Clark will state how the Board would
look at the project if it were submitted as a PUD.
Sherry Albertson -Clark stated if the project were a PUD the Board would not
be looking at the five criteria as discussed previously. She informed more
criteria would be required for the review of the project.
Member Kern inquired why the project was not looked at as a PUD when the
Board had requested this.
Tom Peterson stated the Board asked that any new use be handled as a PUD.
Member Edwards stated he is in favor of the motion because the criteria has
been met. He commented looking at the project as a PUD, this is a classic site
for an industrial use. He stated this is a reasonable request since it is an
outgrowth of something that already exists. He added this will be a better
situation after the expansion.
Member Klataske seconded. Motion passed 6-0.
CONVENIENCE SHOPPING CENTER POLICIES, DESIGN GUIDELINES AND
CODE AMENDMENTS
Joe Frank gave a brief background of the process involved. He stated there is
a good balance of all concerns at this point.
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Harold Worth from the Shields and Prospect Association stated he has watched
the development of these guidelines very closely. He commented from a neigh-
borhood standpoint, the proposed document is a notable improvement. He sug-
gested the proposed guidelines, policies and code amendments be carefully
monitored over a one year period and that adjustments be made when needed.
Member Edwards inquired if the Board makes the recommendation for adoption
how can the Board assure the review and monitoring. He stated the intent
should be to review even before one year.
Joe Frank stated the Board could place a condition on the approval that the
Board could reevaluate the effectiveness of the policies and guidelines within
one year.
Paul Eckman stated if the policy and guidelines are adopted, changes will only
happen if the City Council approves it. He commented the Board can review
this item if a condition is included in the motion.
Chairperson O'Dell inquired about the reevaluation process. She asked if it
would take place at a public hearing so that there would be public input.
Joe Frank
stated that a re-examination could take many forms, including
opportunity
for public input. One
alternative would be to
reform the advisory
committee.
The staff and Board
might discuss how this
re-examination will
take place
at a later date. In any
case, if problems occur,
the staff will bring
changes to
the Board as quickly as
possible.
Member Edwards commented if there is an obvious problem at any time and
when staff becomes aware they can have the Board review the item.
Member Kern moved to approve Convenience Shopping Center Policies, Design
Guidelines and Code Amendments with the proposed provision for re-
examination after one year. Member Edwards seconded. Motion passed 6-0.
OTHER BUSINESS
Tom Peterson informed there would not be a work session in June 1988.
Meeting adjourned at 10:35 p.m.