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COMMISSION ON DISABILITY
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COMMISSION ON DISABILITY
Monday, December 10, 1984, 6:30 p.m.
The regular meeting of the Commission on Disability was called to order by
Vice -Chairperson Charlotte Kanode at 6:41 p.m. on Monday, December 10, 1984
in the CIC Room of City Hall, 300 LaPorte Avenue, Fort Collins, Colorado.
Members Present : Charlotte Kanode, Nancy Jackson, Judy Siefke,
Rosalie Smith, Eldon Decker
Members Absent : Bobbie Guye, Betty Shuey, Penne Powers Thomas,
Tim Kientz, Betty Pidcock, Bill Bertschy
City Staff : Diana Royval
Guest : Kelly Ohlson, City Councilmember and Liaison to
the C.O.D.
The reading of the November 14, 1984 minutes was dispensed with and the minutes
were approved as written following discussion that no formal action was taken
regarding the Loretto Bishop appeal because there had been no quorum present
at last month's meeting.
LIAISON-& SUB -COMMITTEE REPORTS
The Senior Board will meet again on Wednesday, December 12, 1984 and Nancy
Jackson will attend as a representative from the Commission on Disability.
Section 504
Charlotte Kanode, Betty Shuey, Nancy Jackson and Bobbie Guye met with Dick
Valdez of the City Engineering Department and Rob Roblin of Building Inspec-
tion on November 16, 1984 to tour some of the new ramps and curb cuts being
installed in the downtown area. The type of finish on the ramps and the
structure of the ramps and curb cuts were reviewed. Nancy reported that
the downtown area is experimenting with radial curb cuts which have rounded
corners and one cut in the center of the corner rather than a cut at each
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angle of the curb. A pedestrian is supposedly more easily seen from cars and
is less likely to be hit. Charlotte stated that Haze (her seeing -eye dog)
had surprised her and followed the line of the ramp even though it wasn't
in line with the sidewalk. The fact that the radial cut distorts the dimen-
sion of the sidewalk was reason enough for Nancy to express to Mr. Roblin and
Mr. Valdez that curb cuts that line up with the sidewalk are preferable for
visually impaired as well as some mobility impaired persons.
Nancy reported that on December 4, 1984, Rose Kreston also met with Mr. Roblin
and Mr. Valdez to give her input and voice her concerns on the ramp projects.
She mentioned a specific ramp on Laurel and College which has a drainage
grate with bars parallel to the wheels on a wheelchair. Another example
of an unsatisfactory ramp is the new ramp at the Senior Center which has an
exposed aggregate surface with polished stone, making the ramp extremely
slippery whether wet or dry.
Nancy asked what would be done with the information the City is receiving
from us and was told it would be used in the future and that existing condi-
ditions would not be corrected unless there was money left over. Rose
suggested that Mr. Valdez and Mr. Roblin contact CSU for information on its
ramp project.
At this point, Kelly Ohlson asked if all the new ramps were done incorrectly
by the City. Charlotte and Nancy explained that different finishes were the
result of several factors (the workmen themselves, the interpretation of a
"wood -float" finish, the length of time the concrete had set, etc.).
Mr. Ohlson then asked who he could contact within the City to get the job done
right and use the C.O.D.'s input. He was informed that Mike Herzig, Assistant
City Engineer/Projects is the individual the C.O.D. had initially been working
with and that he would probably have the most information.
Nancy Jackson reported that K-Mart had indicated receipt of her letter re-
garding the installation of automatic doors at the local store. The matter
has been referred to the Vice -President of Western State stores for considera-
tion. No response has as yet been received from the Foothills Fashion Mall.
The owner of Park Plaza has not responded regarding the handicapped ramp in the
parking lot.
Accessible Housing Committee
On December 6, 1984, Lucia Liley and a group of developers met with Nancy
Jackson, Rose Kreston, Vic Beebe, Felix Lee from Building Inspection and
Curt Smith, Director of Community Development, to discuss HB 1477 and
accessible housing in Fort Collins. Ms. Liley pointed out that those
developers present were actively involved with the Building Code review and
interested in accessible housing. The builders asked how they could ensure
that the handicapped units would be occupied and Nancy stated that the HID
( would maintain a list of occupied and vacant accessible units. Discussion
followed on adaptable features to make a unit accessible (i.e. garden
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level ramp with landscaping rather than stairs) and who would be responsible
for funding such modifications. Rose and Vic both stated that two priorities
are accessible ingress/egress and bathrooms in any living unit. Rose then
posed the question: how much does an accessible unit cost to build versus
a non -accessible unit?", but didn't receive a definite answer. Ms. Liley
will be back in touch with Vic Beebe, Chairperson of the Committee, to sche-
dule more meetings in the future.
Building Plans Review
Diana Royval, Nancy Jackson and Rose Kreston met on December 6th to review
three sets of plans submitted by Building Inspection which included a travel
agency remodel (no problem), a six-plex (totally unaccessible) and a new
high-tech facility which had one handicapped bathroom in the whole structure,
located on the first floor in the employee area. While there was an elevator,
the stair railings and open stair structure did not meet GSA or ANSI codes.
At this point, Kelly Ohlson interjected with several comments aimed at getting
the COD to be assertive and demand answers from the City Staff, and not to
accept "no" for an answer or, worse yet, no response at all. He has been on
City Council for two years and has yet to receive a call from the C.O.D.
and assumes everything is fine. The C.O.D. is an advisor to Council and
should not be intimidated by Staff. Examples cited included the ramp pro-
Cjects, lack of input on our plan reviews, and so on. He felt it was ridiculous
for new construction not be accessible or for new ramps to be done incorrectly.
He will follow-up on these issues and encouraged C.O.D. to take on a more
active role and communicate more with Council. Members thanked him for his
support and announced they will certainly feel freer in the future to
contact him or any Councilmember when problems are unresolved.
CITIZEN'S TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY BOARD
Charlotte discussed her frustration with this board regarding the bus stop
across from DMA which always has cars parked in front of it and the lack of
bus shelters across from the hospital. She has received on explanatory
letter from Ken Sylvester/Bob Lee which was unsatisfactory. She will
follow-up with a letter and report back at the January meeting.
ARCHITECTURAL BARRIER REMOVAL APPLICATIONS
The members present unanimously voted to uphold the denial of the application
from Loretto Bishop. Bobbie Guye had submitted an absentee vote to Diana
earlier in the day as she was unable to attend the meeting. Diana will send
a letter to Loretto Bishop and her attorney tommorrow so informing them of
the decision.
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The application from G. Santistevan was approved for assistance pending a
needs assessment by the CDBG's Office Project Manager.
VIDEO TAPE REVIEW
As a final Agenda item, the members watched the video tape of the Wrap -Up
Session of October's Mayor's Awards Breakfast and reflected upon the day's
events. Discussion followed for improvements for next year's Breakfast.
MISCELLANEOUS ANNOUNCEMENTS
Eldon Decker suggested that our Agenda format be revised to highlight
problem areas requiring Council's attention. It was suggested that this be
discussed at next month's meeting when more members are present.
Diana Royval suggested that the Commission on Disability send a letter
to Tom Frazier regarding the extremely slow process of acquiring the handi-
capped signage for City Hall. It has been over a year since the Commission
met with the architects to finalize details of the signs. It was also noted
that none of the new non-smoking signs are designed for handicapped accessi-
bility. She will contact Chairperson Bobbie Guye to write the letter.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 8:35 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Diana Royval`
Staff Liaison
HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL!
SEE YOU IN 1985