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HomeMy WebLinkAboutTransportation Board - Minutes - 04/03/19960 • • • Draft minutes to be approved by the Transportation Board at their April 17, 1996 meeting. FOR REFERENCE: Chair Vice Chair Council Liaison Staff Liaison Secretary TRANSPORTATION BOARD REGULAR MEETING MINUTES APRIL 3,1996 PUBLIC LIBRARY, 201 PETERSON - Colin Gerety 546-0460 - Paul Valentine 493-0100 - Will Smith 223-0425 - Tom Frazier 221-6893 - Micki White 221-6608 BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT: Alan Beatty, Mark Egeland, Sara Frazier, Colin Gerety, Dolores Highfield, Donn Hopkins, Tim Johnson, Ray Moe, Paul Perlmutter, and Paul Valentine. BOARD MEMBERS ABSENT: Elizabeth Hudetz STAFF PRESENT: Susanne Edminster, Tom Frazier, Ron Phillips, and Micki White -- Transportation Svcs.; Brian Woodruff and Linda Devocelle -- Natural Resources; Tom Chapel -- Engineering. AGENDA: Call to Order Approval of Minutes A. PUBLIC COMMENT B. ACTION ITEMS 1.City Council Budget Issues - Edminster C. DISCUSSION ITEMS 1. Revisions to Pedestrian Ramp Standards - Chapel 2. Air Quality action Plan - Woodruff 3. T-Notes a. TMF (attached) b. Other Current Plan Updates 4. Board Member Reports 5. Council Liaison Reports 6. Staff Reports 7. Summary/Next Agenda Other Business TRANSPORTATION BOARD REGULAR MEETING MINUTES April 3, 1996 Page 2 Chair Gerety called the meeting to order at approximately 5:45 p.m. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Tom Frazier noted that on page 5, Timberline Road Extension, Reavis was talking about the length of highway adjacent to HP, not the area in front of it. Moe stated that he was present at the last meeting, but his name was not listed as such. Chair Gerety said that as an advisory board, this group not only sends letters to council, but council and others read the minutes. Therefore it is important to make sure that the comments of the board are adequately represented. In particular, there were a couple of sections that need more detailed board member comments/questions/points of view. Chair Gerety said that in the Air Quality Action Plan information in the packets, the council comments were easy to see and that perhaps this format could be used for Transportation Board minutes in the future. For example on page 4, when the group was talking about the Timberline presentation, one of the things he wondered about was how the patterns of development affect the traffic model and also, whether the extension will change the pattern of development in a way that the city is not planning to develop. On page 5, when talking about the bike plan, he said that he feels it should be recorded that it is disappointing that we can't find enough money to do a couple of the most critical bicycle projects in the city, especially in light of the fact that on the same night, we were talking about tens of millions of dollars for various roadway projects. Egeland said that he agrees with Gerety's comments, that it would be better to have a little bit more detail. A balance needs to be found because we can't have the minutes be a transcript of everything that is said, but the general points of view should be included. Phillips asked if the group would like staff to revise the minutes and hold off on action until the next meeting. Hopkins made a motion to approve the minutes contingent upon the comments made tonight that the board member comments would be included in more detail and the first two amendments mentioned by T. Frazier and Moe would be included. The group discussed Phillips' question. It was agreed that the Harmony Road Bike Corridor and the Timberline issue need to include more detail and use the format Chair Gerety suggested. Chair Gerety called for a vote on the motion and the motion did not carry. Staff will revise the minutes as the Board requested and bring them back to the next meeting. r. • , • • CJ TRANSPORTATION BOARD REGULAR MEETING MINUTES April 3, 1996 Page 3 A. PUBLIC COMMENT Q6M B.1. CITY COUNCIL BUDGET ISSUES - Edminster Edminster said that based on the last meeting with the Board, she composed the draft memo to council on the Board's behalf (included in packet). Since the creation of this memo however, Reavis reviewed the draft and made changes as well. Reavis told Edminster that they weren't really looking at the "hot" list of facilities that they really want to start with first, so she asked Edminster to revise the list to include the "hot" list instead of the high priority list. The "hot" list is four projects: Pitkin from College to Shields; Laurel/Shields to College; Horsetooth/Shields to College; and the railroad acquisition along the right-of-way all the way from Harmony Road to Laurel Street. She then distributed the revised list. Egeland noted that the hot list were things that were in the top priority and were doable in a short amount of time, whereas doing all of Lemay is important, but probably not going to happen in a short time. T. Frazier asked why the Pitkin project is so hot. Egeland responded that it will be providing a connection that is non-existent now, making it a priority. Hopkins added that in the University's plan, it is included to make the connection to Shields and at some point, to the center of campus. He said that on the Laurel/Shields to College that this is something that city/CSU staff has been dealing with for some time. The question is where do you put the 220 cars that park on the street now? Valentine offered a suggestion: Laurel needs to be treated and laid out just as Remington is with one travel lane each way and a turn lane in the center, then you can still have the bicycles and the parking. The traffic there is not so heavy that it needs four travel lanes. The problem is when someone tries to make a left -turn. This should be a relatively inexpensive solution. Hopkins said that this is an excellent suggestion, but that the bike lanes are crowded now. Egeland said that the group didn't really look at it from a university type facility as much as they did a city facility. Chair Gerety asked the Board if they feel these are reasonable projects to put in a letter to council, asking for their support. Edminster said that another option is that if the group did not want to specify them, as an example, it could say, "construct the highest priority projects." Egeland: The letter is not an overwhelming one and that he doesn't mind seeing some • examples left in it. TRANSPORTATION BOARD REGULAR MEETING MINUTES April 3, 1996 Page 4 Johnson: Taking off "matters pertaining to" in the first paragraph and on the fourth line from the bottom, start off by saying that, "the 1997 budget process must address bicycle education and also adopt a plan," making it much more direct. He mentioned that he had a few more comments, but that he would just give them to Edminster on paper. Valentine: Is the Transportation System Maintenance tree graph was to be included with the memo? Edminster responded that only the memo will be going to council. Valentine: In the second paragraph, the second sentence, the phrase, "and get just about anywhere in town quickly and safely," he said the "get just about" isn't quite right. Edminster said that the word "travel" could be used instead. Valentine agreed. Egeland: The in the end part on the last page, he suggested moving the paragraph with the bulleted items up (vision) and then moving some of the more specific things down later in the memo. Valentine agreed. Egeland: Move the IMF section right after the vision items. Johnson: In the second paragraph, the sentence should say, "must" include funding for. .. In the second paragraph: "the Transportation Board actively participated in the design of transportation related plans"; the middle of the second paragraph it should say, "several positive transportation options." Gerety: Add a bullet to the first set that says, "Bring non -auto modes of transportation to a standard where they are a viable option." Maintenance paragraph: A level of service is needed, instead of has been established; and funding for transportation maintenance must be established to provide for an acceptable levels of service for all modes. Choice City paragraph: Valentine suggested starting this paragraph with, "The 1997 Budget must include," and then, `Fort Collins is called the "Choice City"' Bullet Items: S. Frazier asked if Commuter rail should be emphasized more and the wording was adjusted to Frazier's satisfaction. Programs to move people to and between, instead of "children". • TRANSPORTATION BOARD REGULAR MEETING MINUTES April 3, 1996 Page 5 Edminster said that she will send a revised copy to Chair Gerety via electronic mail for his approval to ensure that all the corrections are included. There was a motion and a second to approve the memo with the above amendments. The motion carried by a unanimous vote. Smith said that the chair of the NFRT & AQPC has asked that each individual member of the council talk about what the council should be attempting to complete or work on or make a priority in the coming year. If anyone has any quick thoughts to pass on to the NFRT &AQPC, he would appreciate it. The general comment from the board is that TDM should be a priority. The next meeting will be in Evans, 3700 Golden at 6:30 p.m. on April 4. C.I. REVISIONS TO PEDESTRIAN RAMP STANDARDS - Chapel Mr. Chapel gave an overhead presentation to the Board, showing various pedestrian ramps. Valentine: We are in the middle of a process for the pedestrian plan, can't this wait until the pedestrian plan is further along? Chapel responded that staff is pressed • for time in trying to comply with the ADA guidelines. They want to get something out there as soon as possible. Valentine also added that he is opposed to the ramps due to the fact that bicycle riders will have to go out into College Avenue with the way they are designed. Chapel said that this was addressed somewhat in the ADA. Gerety: Asked the board if they cared to send a note to council on this issue. Valentine: Suggested waiting until the Pedestrian Plan is more in place first. Beatty: They've done a wonderful job on the ramps no matter what the color. Gerety: Suggested a note that says the Board recognizes the need to have better ramps and that these might serve as interim ones until the matter can be addressed when the Pedestrian Plan is closer to completion. Gerety: First we should be accommodating the people who live and walk in the neighborhoods everyday, then accommodate the traffic. It was agreed to send a note to Council with the following statement: The • Transportation Board adopted the interim standards, but would like to refine in light of City Plan standards and the Pedestrian Plan. They agreed that they would like to include that the primary concern of the Board was with mid -radius ramps. TRANSPORTATION BOARD REGULAR MEETING MINUTES April 3, 1996 Page 6 C.2. AIR QUALITY ACTION PLAN - Woodruff' Mr. Woodruff thanked the Board for their time tonight. He said that he would like to present briefly the information in the plan. It is broken down into various objectives: Reducing VMT; Pollution Prevention; and Radon and Wood Smoke Ordinances. Mr. Woodruff then presented his information (follows info in packets). Johnson: Consider using ZILCH loan funds for other than wood stoves and fireplaces, if it's no longer needed. Woodruff responded that he doesn't see this happening. Valentine: New fuel for automobiles that will reduce pollution by 80%? Woodruff said that EPA testing so far is positive. It is potentially revolutionary. Egeland: Always large amounts of construction debris around HP and New Fort Collins High. The ordinance needs to be enforced. Let's get more aggressive on it to make them clean it up. Woodruff responded that he has worked with the Larimer County Health Department and the Storm Drainage people to enforce it, but have not been very successful so far. Frazier: Asked if anything is being done to reduce VMT in neighborhoods such as reducing the number of different trash haulers in each neighborhood. Woodruff responded that not at this point, although it is being tried out in different neighborhoods whose associations have coordinated it. Gerety: There is not enough data -- not enough monitoring information. In terms of working with the county in regards to the road construction projects, I would really like to see a reduction in dust and traffic, I don't know what it is, but would like to see something. Also, what happened to the Teledyne Radon information? Woodruff thanked the Board for their comments and said that he will incorporate them before the Council sees them. C.3. T-NOTES a. TMF Edminster distributed a hand-out. She noted that there was an article in Sunday's newspaper and that she had been expecting a large amount of phone calls but there weren't. This is going to Council on April 16 and she invited one and all to attend that meeting. Phillips also encouraged the board members to call their council members. • TRANSPORTATION BOARD REGULAR MEETING MINUTES April 3, 1996 Page 7 Egeland: Asked if there would be a problem with him representing C-4 to speak in favor of the TMF as a Transportation Board member? Someone responded that as long as he identified himself as a C-4 representative, it should be fine. He also mentioned that he was contacted by a member of the League of Women Voters to be on a panel in favor of it, but he decided to bring it to the board and see if anyone else on the Board that might be interested. Gerety said that he has it down on his calendar. Egeland will call the contact person back with Gerety's name. Valentine: Went to a meeting recently of the Choice City Citizens. They are a group who are going to address various issues regarding city and county government. Their initial flyer talks about TMF. They don't like the idea of a fee. They want to have a citizen vote on it. I will continue to go to their meetings to keep this board informed and to see if I can learn anything from them. • b. Other Current Plan Updates T. Frazier distributed a table that shows the various plans and certain deadlines. He asked that the Board review it and see where it might fit into their meeting schedules. CA. BOARD MEMBER REPORTS Egeland: Attended a recent meeting C-4 meeting -- the snow removal is getting better, the bike lanes are getting attention and C-4 appreciates that. Hopkins: CSU, in their budget and planning process, is pursuing a number of strategies for mass transit and parking. One of those is to support. House Bill 96-1360 which is the clean air transit benefit for state employees. Currently, under State fiscal rules, no State entity can offer an incentive for people to use mass transit and we're working to get that changed. Valentine: (Passed around a SH 14/I-25 frontage road project flyer.) Eric Bracke is the lead person and I would assume that he will keep us informed if there is anything we need to be aware of. There is an Open House on April 11 from 4-7 p.m. at the Plaza Inn if anyone is interested. • Beatty: Went to Washington D.C. recently and rode a high speed underground train -- keep up your perseverance, Sara! TRANSPORTATION BOARD REGULAR MEETING MINUTES April 3, 1996 Page 8 Johnson: Would like a copy of the Conservation Trust fund to be distributed in the packets for the next meeting. C.5. COUNCIL LIAISON REPORTS None C.6. STAFF REPORTS - T. Frazier said that in regards to Dial -A -Ride, 99.9% of the issues have. been dealt with. T. Frazier asked the board what their preference for food type is for their meetings. The general consensus was that what has been provided in the past is fine, and that the more substantial the better since the meeting time falls during the dinner hour. Phillips mentioned that Marc Engemoen will be giving an update on the Timberline issue to Council next Tuesday and that it isn't anything different than this board heard at one of their recent meetings. C.7. SUMMARY/NEXT AGENDA - Updates on: Master Transportation Plan Pedestrian Plan - Street Oversizing (April 17 or May meeting) OTHER BUSINESS There being no other business, the meeting adjourned at approximately 8:30 p.m. 4 C*jC -- Cindy L. Scott, Secretary