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Minutes: Regular Meeting of August 17, 2005
Council Liaison to the Board: Councilmember Diggs Brown
Staff Support to the Board: Jerry P. Brown, Manager of Golf at 221-6350, and Dawn
Worth, Administrative Aide at 416-2265
Call Meeting to Order: Board Chairperson David Johnson called the meeting to order at
7:30 p.m. at the SouthRidge Cart Building.
Agenda Review: There were no changes to the agenda as printed.
Items of Note:
♦ Jerry reminded the Board that Lary Buckendorf and David Johnson's terms expire in
December and they both stated at last month's meeting that they were going to
reapply.
♦ Jerry introduced the City's Purchasing and Risk Management Director Jim O'Neill.
He explained that Jim is ultimately the one responsible for the golf professional
contractual process and he is the one who signs the agreement with the City.
♦ Lary Buckendorf arrived at 7:50 p.m
Approval of Minutes: Grant Sherwood suggested that a change be made to the draft
Minutes on page 4, top paragraph, last sentence, clarifying that the Golf Fund transfers
$120,000 yearly to the General Fund for overhead. The Board unanimously agreed that
the change be made. Then, on a motion by Grant Sherwood, seconded by Lauren
DeRosa, the Board unanimously (8:0) approved the Minutes of the July 20, 2005 Regular
Meeting, as corrected.
Citizen Participation: None
Consideration of Extending the Term of the Agreement with the SouthRidge Golf
Professional
Gordan Michael feels that the atmosphere at SouthRidge has changed since Dale has
taken over and he has done a great job despite all of the construction that has taken place
around the course. Fred Frantz, a member of the SouthRidge Men's Golf Association,
stated that we are very fortunate to have Dale and that all three golf professionals and
their staff s are great. Collindale Golf Professional Jim Greer stated that he fully supports
Dale. He has known Dale for many years and he respects him and the way he handles his
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business. In his opinion Dale is a great player and he's one of the best in this State, even
in this Region, and it's neat to see his name in newspapers. He feels Dale has really
turned things around since the previous Golf Professional left. Jerry mentioned to the
Board that he received 18 a -mails supporting the extension of Dale's agreement. City
Park Nine Golf Professional David McCleave feels Dale does a great job and that there
can't possibly be anyone that can do better. SouthRidge Concessionaire Rob Dahl feels
that Dale runs an honest, clean business and that we are getting a tremendous value with
Dale. SouthRidge Superintendent Randy Bonneville feels Dale and his staff has done a
fine job, however he's concerned about the Service Fee increase. With the wage freeze
the City has implemented employees have not received an increase in pay since 2002 and
Randy stated that he has had to make a number of cuts in his budget. He feels that this
increase would be unfair to the maintenance staff.
Jerry informed the Board that he had a discussion with the CLRS Director Marty
Heffernan in regards to this. He mentioned to Marty that Jim O'Neill suggested
potentially using the CPI which would be an annual calculated increase rather than a set
percentage increase. Jerry and Marty both feel that we should honor the original bidded
commitment. Jerry stated that the investment we make in our Pro Shop is important
because they are our front line of our business. He doesn't look at the Service Fee we pay
the Golf Professional the same as wages because that money isn't just going directly into
Dale's pocket. He has to pay for his staff, benefits, and his merchandise sales are going
down, and driving range sales have also gone down. David Johnson said that he feels we
couldn't easily replace Dale. Shane Houska mentioned that Dale puts in a lot of hours and
we should abide by our commitment. Jay Kammerzell suggested that we extend Dale's
agreement and feels we should consider implementing a website for Pro Shop sales. Jerry
mentioned to the Board that they still have a month to decide if they would like to extend
Dale's agreement, or they can vote tonight. David Johnson said that we haven't heard
anything negative so he suggested a vote tonight. Jay Kammerzell then made a motion to
extend Dale's agreement including the 4% annual increase. The motion was seconded by
Deron Grothe and approved unanimously (8:0). Dale then offered to give half of his
annual increase for maintenance purposes and he thanked the Board for their confidence
in him.
Other Business
♦ Jerry stated that he recently received an e-mail from Shane Houska after the Chamber
of Commerce cancelled their tournament at Collindale. The Chamber stated they
didn't have enough players and some felt that the course is too hard. Jerry gave them
the option to take their tournament elsewhere and they chose to do so. Jerry
mentioned that Shane suggested we do some brainstorming to discuss ways to bring
in more revenue, etc. Jerry feels that's a good idea, and said the market in golf has
changed dramatically. He explained that for about 15 years golf was doing very well
and there wasn't as much competition. Even though golf was doing well many
national organizations were pushing it to grow even more, and they were also
encouraging developers to build more courses. In 1990 The National Golf Foundation
started a project to hopefully open a new golf course everyday for a year. They
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wanted to see 365 new courses a year opened and they projected that there could be
3,650 courses built in 10 years which would meet the supply and demand at that time.
Courses are still being built but the game of golf itself has flattened out. There hasn't
been any growth for a few years and it's not predicted to recover quickly and with all
of the additional courses it just exacerbates the problem. The way we market, how we
present our courses, and encourage players to come to our facilities is different now
than it was just a few years ago. He stated that the courses we have are different from
each other so we may have to market them in different ways. He explained that there
isn't a rule that states that each course has to have the same fees and times, but it does
make it easier for the players. He has spoken to the Golf Professionals about this and
they are also thinking of new marketing ideas.
He mentioned that in a conversation he recently had with Marty Heffernan he was
told that Marty knows people that won't play at Collindale because they feel it's too
difficult. Jerry said that we have raised the skirts on a lot of the trees near the fairways
so that players wouldn't have a difficult time getting their ball out. He has had
suggestions from people to cut down some trees. Jerry said that one of those
suggestions came from the architect that designed the course. Jerry also mentioned
that Greeley lowered their fees by $4.00 across the board and to the best of his
knowledge it hasn't made a big difference. He asked if the Board would like to
brainstorm "marketing" ideas as a whole, or if we should put together a subcommittee
and then bring the ideas to the next meeting. David Johnson suggested that any Board
member interested can attend the committee meeting. Jerry said that if more than
three members meet we would need to post an announcement so the public would be
informed. Shane said that the reason he brought it up is that we are always talking
about the fixed budget and we just can't run on a fixed budget anymore. Jerry said
that we will set up a meeting in September before the next Regular Board Meeting
and any Board Member interested may attend. Jay Kammerzell feels it would be
helpful to have a list of constraints and asked Jerry to provide that for the marketing
meeting.
♦ Jerry informed the Board that July was the best month we've had in 3 years. We
made 15.1% revenue for the year in that month despite the high weather
temperatures. As of today we have added another 10% since August 1st and hopefully
we'll still have some nice weather ahead.
Board Member and Staff Comments/Reports
Jerry explained the issues the golf courses have had over the last week. Someone broke
into the cart storage basement at Collindale and stole all of the Concessionaires' alcohol.
Jim Greer noted that the locksmith never took out the manufacturer's combination and
the thief(s) were able to press any five numbers and open the lock. At SouthRidge, the
kitchen water heater broke on Saturday and we were unable to get a new one until the
following Monday. There was also some vandalism at SouthRidge, as the #4 Green was
dug up with a shovel and there were multiple sets of footprint that appeared to be headed
to the Oak Ridge Neighborhood. Randy Bonneville said that it was 18" deep in some
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parts and about 300 sq ft. At City Park Nine a lady was hit on the arm while driving past
the course. Jerry stated that he took the Risk Manager out there and he has requested that
we raise the net behind the #5 Green. Jerry also received notice that the new E-Z-GO golf
carts at Collindale that we recently purchased have a potential fire hazard issue. He has
contacted the Regional Manager for the company and he stated that there wasn't a
problem. Jerry questioned the memo he received and the manager said that they are no
longer selling them, but there wasn't a problem with us continuing to use them. A
technician was sent out to Collindale to inspect the carts and they have assured us they
would be fine, but we shouldn't fill up the gas tanks completely. Jerry mentioned that he
has as also sent an e-mail to the President of the company.
Adjournment:
On a motion by Shane Houska, seconded by Deron Grothe, the Board unanimously voted
(9:0) to adjourn at 8:15 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Dawn Worth
Administrative Aide
Meeting Attendance
Board Members Staff
Larry Buckendorf
Jerry P. Brown
Lauren DeRosa
Dawn Worth
Deron Grothe
Randy Bonneville
Shane Houska
Rob Dahl
David Johnson
Jim Greer
Jay Kammerzell
David McCleave
Dan Preble
Dale Smigelsky
Grant Sherwood
David Thilmany
Guests
Craig Fabrikant
Fred Frantz
Gordon Michael