HomeMy WebLinkAboutAffordable Housing Board - Minutes - 08/03/1995AFFORDABLE HOUSING BOARD
MEETING MINUTES
August 3, 1995
The meeting of the Affordable Housing Board began at 4:10 p.m. in the Community
Planning Conference Room, 281 North College Avenue, Fort Collins, Colorado.
Board members present were Chairperson Mary Cosgrove, Bob Browning, Joanne
Greer, Susan Nabors, Tom Sibbald, and Sue Wagner. Staff member present was
Dickson Robin.
Ms. Cosgrove called for public comment. Ms. Stitzei distributed information
concerning definitions of affordable housing, the spread of housing supply, and the
entities providing that supply. Ms. Stitzel commented on a dearth of, and need for,
factual information concerning such items.
Ms. Cosgrove noted the wealth of detail in the minutes of the last meeting. Moved
by Ms. Greer, seconded by Ms. Wagner: To approve the minutes of July 6,
1995. Motion approved unanimously.
The affordable housing policy agenda for 1995-1997 was discussed. Mr. Robin
distributed the latest version adopted by City Council on the prior Tuesday and the
initiatives to be undertaken during 1996-1997. $15,000 has been applied for
development of a public education program regarding affordable housing issues. Mr.
Robin stated his wish to bring in City employees to form a public awareness team
to formulate a campaign to educate the public. Tess Heffernan, in particular, was
noted as a potential member of this team. Mr. Robin advocated the presence of the
Board in this role and requested the formation of a committee to review this issue.
Ms. Cosgrove welcomed the presence of Ms. Heffernan at a Board meeting, pending
a decision by the Board to assist further. Ms. Greer offered to spearhead a
subcommittee oriented to public education.
Mr. Robin recommended a subcommittee to review the Provincetown issue. Ms.
Cosgrove noted her conversation with Mike Ludwig concerning the negative effect
of the NIMBY concept on effective development. Two prevalent issues raised by
those groups are property value and crime. Mr. Ludwig suggested that research be
compiled to counteract those negative assertions within a public education program
and encouraged the Board to participate in that process.
Mr. Sibbald stated that at least seven studies have addressed the perception of
negative property value impacts. Two of those studies are available through the
University of Indiana and the Urban Land Institute. Mr. Robin has ordered the study
through the Urban Land Institute.
Mr. Sibbald further stated that: bad land plans should not be supported simply
because they are brought forth in the name of affordable housing; developers have
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used the affordable housing effort to advance plans that are not worthwhile on their
merits; that a balance is needed to ensure that the important issues are addressed
and resolved; that P&Z has generally been able to ferret land use decisions out of
neighborhood objections; that a bad land use decision for low- and moderate -income
housing is aggravated later due to lack of capital to deal with the bad design.
The Board discussed the negative perceptions of affordable housing and the housing
populations. Mr. Robin noted the mechanisms in place to deal with potential
development problems. Ms. Greer expressed irritation over unfair labeling of the
residents. She noted success with privately assisted properties and recommended
review by the press with the private developers and managing agents of assisted
housing within the community. This effort can be done privately.
Ms. Cosgrove suggested that a committee meeting be held following the attendance
by Tess Heffernan, with ideas to be brought forth by Board members and non -Board
members. Rusty Collins, Lou Stitzel, and Sister Mary Alice were mentioned as
potentially involved people.
Mr. Browning questioned the status of an affordable housing survey. Mr. Robin
mentioned the use of a map by Ken Waido at the Lincoln Center Mayor's meeting.
Mr. Browning stated that such an inventory would be a valuable education tool and
that the map used by Mr. Waido was of little value. The Board spoke approvingly of
such an inventory, with private and Housing Authority developments labeled
discretely. Mr. Browning and Mr. Sibbald expressed concern about the City's ability
to formulate such a map. Mr. Robin suggested that Mr. Browning and Mr. Sibbald
assist in that effort.
Ms. Cosgrove noted the next item on the affordable housing policy agenda; housing
production and methods of stimulating it. Ms. Cosgrove and Mr. Sibbald stated that
the stated ideas have been discussed for some time.
Ms. Cosgrove next raised the policy agenda issue of student housing. She noted
recent reports on student abuse of property and its effect on neighborhoods. Ms.
Janett, in prior conversation with Ms. Cosgrove, had advocated mechanisms to
inform the students of the image they create and ask for the students' cooperation.
Mr. Robin noted the presence of a CSU committee to develop a long-term student
housing plan. Mr. Waido has been working with this committee. Ms. Greer
mentioned potential zoning restrictions for unrelated persons in a household. Mr.
Robin stated that the City could not legally enforce such zoning. Mr. Sibbald
expressed dismay that the policy agenda had been adopted without suggestions
from the Board. He further stated that the problems with student housing stemmed
more from property appearance and treatment than the numbers of students in a
house. Mr. Sibbald advocated a property maintenance ordinance, with
consequences flowing to the landlord. Mr. Robin noted a similar approach already
taken by the West Central Neighborhood group.
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Discussion was held whether public concern about student housing focused more
on the household composition or property appearance. Ms. Cosgrove noted a mini
task force report regarding those divergent views. Mr. Sibbald stated that the mini
task force reported that restrictive zoning of unrelated persons within a household
could increase stresses on affordable housing by increasing the number of units
needed for those residents.
Mr. Sibbald and Ms. Greer noted that Greeley has a household standard regarding
the number of unrelated persons in a dwelling. Mr. Sibbald stated that the existence
of such a standard gives him leverage as a landlord to remedy problems in
households that violate that standard. He recommended that elimination of the
standard would be a disservice to landlords.
Mr. Sibbald noted that the standard was not addressed in the policy agenda and
inquired whether it was contained within the land use policy agenda. Mr. Robin
stated it was not on any agenda, although the West Central Neighborhood group has
explored this area. He suggested that someone from Zoning address the Board
regarding enforcement of the standard.
Mr. Sibbald stated that he would like a one -page memo from staff within the next 60
days regarding Item 7(b)(1) on the policy agenda. Mr. Robin stated that items of
discussion have included street width, triple trenching, and standards for
manufactured housing. Mr. Sibbald noted that this item has been a topic of
discussion for some time, and Mr. Robin assented to produce the requested memo,
containing an update on staffs intentions and the time frames involved.
Ms. Cosgrove informed the Board that she had received a letter from Mayor Azar!
replying to the Board's memo of various items of concern and discussion. Ms.
Cosgrove expressed discouragement that the Board's issues were not well
addressed. She felt that the Board had not been adequately heard on the issues.
She requested the assistance of staff for continuing updates on those items.
Mr. Sibbald stated that he felt that Mayor Azarl's memo expressed that the items
listed were being addressed in some fashion, except for those which were
impossible to do. Ms. Cosgrove reiterated her request for continuing updates.
Regarding Item 7(d) in the policy agenda, members of the Board noted that housing
types were not broken out and expressed a desire to see more itemization, to ensure
that some types of housing, such as manufactured housing, were not excluded.
Regarding Item 7(e), Mr. Sibbald stated that a need existed for an inventory of
affordable housing. He stated the following: that no one knew where all the available
affordable housing existed; that the Larimer County Housing Consortium, after
spending $30,000 on a needs assessment, was not reporting any success; that
without knowing the inventory, a particular segment of the market could be
overstimulated, when resources could be better used elsewhere.
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Ms. Cosgrove called for suggestions for Board action on the policy agenda items.
Ms. Greer echoed the need for an affordable house inventory. Mr. Robin stated that,
in terms of staff time, 7(a) was viewed as a priority. Several members of the Board
stated that an inventory of housing was needed for the public awareness program.
Mr. Robin requested input on the indices needed to track progress.
Mr. Sibbald stressed the need for the public awareness program to personalize the
population of low- and moderate -income housing, accompanied by an inventory, to
allow acknowledgment of the need for housing within the community. He further
stated that a certain growth rate would generate a certain number of people needing
housing, and those rates were not known. Mr. Robin replied that such assumptions
could be made without empirical data and that the public awareness program would
be designed to open the eyes of the community to eliminate stigmas attached to the
concept of affordable housing. He stated that an inventory should be made and
progress should be measured, but that the assumption could be made that
affordable housing is a continuing community need.
Ms. Cosgrove spoke of her experience on a phone bank in Loveland in campaigning
for a referendum. The callers had prepared answers to all concerns. She suggested
a brainstorm session to prepare answers to questions that may come up in the
awareness program. Ms. Nabors stated that information concerning the location and
number of housing units would be an essential part of the information offered to the
public.
Ms. Cosgrove suggested that a committee compile what data would be needed for
the information process. Ms. Nabors stated that such information has been
requested for four years and has not been produced. Mr. Robin and Mr. Browning
noted the difficulty affordable housing projects go through for approval. Mr. Sibbald
noted that not every project has difficulty and declined Mr. Robin's suggestion to
assist in that issue.
Ms. Cosgrove invited ideas for the next meeting on suggestions for Council. Mr.
Robin noted that Council was still reviewing some of the findings. Ms. Cosgrove
echoed Mr. Sibbald's statement concerning Council developing a policy first and
then asking for Board comment. She expressed confusion on the role of the Board
in this process.
Mr. Robin noted that the policy draft was required of staff since the last Board
meeting. Mr. Sibbald dissented, stating that the concept had existed since May. Ms.
Cosgrove stated that she would discuss with Ms. Janett the role of the Board in
commenting on policy during its development.
Mr. Krcmarik made the following comments concerning Provincetown: There are 339
acres, with approximately $3.8 million of costs and bonds. The City had viewed two
approaches of a traditional RFP, or a nontraditional RFP, in which possibilities of
development were left open. He noted Mr. Sibbald's suggestion of a third option in
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which the City would serve as a developer and master planner. Finance staff is
researching those three possibilities.
Mr. Krcmarik further stated that the process is being reviewed by many other boards
and commissions within the City, as well as the Finance Committee of City Council.
Mr. Wanner has stressed to staff to be creative and keep their options open. Ms.
Kneeland is enthusiastic about generating a mix of income strata in the
development.
Mr. Krcmarik reviewed financial aspects of Provincetown. Nine percent interest is
generated for the bonds, or approximately $41,000 per quarter. Consulting fees for
planning would be $50,000-100,000, with an additional three months for the project
to go through a consultant RFP.
Mr. Sibbald questioned the type of input to be made by the other boards and
commissions. Mr. Krcmarik noted that Natural Resources Board requested 160
acres for wetlands and buffer ground. The City is pursuing a valuation of the
property. Mr. Sibbald noted the proximity of the property to the envisioned Fort
Collins/Loveland buffer, and that much of the property along County Road 32 is not
developable as wetlands. He stated that the Natural Resources Board should not
dictate the value of the property, particularly when a great deal of undevelopable
property lies nearby. Mr. Sibbald advocated a balanced approach to deciding on the
acreage of public ground within Provincetown.
Mr. Krcmarik stated that input would be received and reviewed from all the affected
Boards. He noted that if 160 acres is not developed, then at a value of $3,000 per
acre, the City would lose much of the revenue needed for bond and interest
payments. Mr. Sibbald offered to explain his idea to the Board. Ms. Cosgrove stated
that she would have to visit the property before voting on a particular course of
action. Ms. Nabors invited Mr. Sibbald to explain his idea.
Mr. Sibbald stated his view that the City would master -plan the Provincetown
property for a mixed -use community, with reasonable natural resource area provided
for a 700-800 unit development. By going through the master plan process, the City
could reduce overall development time, thereby driving up the value for developers.
Developers with different emphases - single-family, townhomes - could participate
by buying parcels of the development. Once the property is free and clear of the
bond encumbrances, remaining property could be used for affordable housing
efforts, either on the property itself or by being traded for property elsewhere.
Mr. Sibbald and Mr. Krcmarik discussed the potential interest for participation by
developers. Mr. Sibbald recommended that the City contact those who have
expressed interest to discuss their views on the master plan process and their
willingness to participate in acquiring smaller parcels.
Ms. Cosgrove invited comments on the Community Development Corporation
discussions. Ms. Nabors and Ms. Wagner commented on the lack of funding in the
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absence of a specific goal for the funds. There are no assets presently within the
CDC to fund any projects. Ms. Nabors stated that the City would have to form a new
CDC for affordable housing projects; the present CDC is focused on community
development. Mr. Sibbald expressed frustration with the lack of funding and stated
that economic development funding would probably not survive the '96 Federal
budget process.
Ms. Nabors stated that Provincetown was seen as a viable project for the CDC, if
funding became available. Ms. Wagner noted that the business community was not
participating. Mr. Sibbald questioned whether the business community would be
motivated to participate in view of apathy by City Council to economic development.
He expressed pessimism that anything would be accomplished without a specific
program to drive funding. Ms. Nabors stated that progress could be made but that
the pace of progress would be dependent on being project -specific. Ms. Cosgrove
stated that staff was needed who were hired to focus on and promote the project and
not be proceedings to many different directions.
Ms. Greer asked for the CDC's role in Provincetown. Ms. Nabors stated that the
CDC could gain an asset from the Provincetown project. Mr. Sibbald stated that
using Provincetown as a capitalization tool would result in nothing until
approximately 1998. He stated that unless the CDC could capture resources quickly,
the available resources would dwindle to nothing in a short time. He suggested that
existing staff, including former grant writers, be used to put a project for funding in
place.
Ms. Nabors noted that the purpose of the CDC was to pool resources, provide
technical assistance, and minimize overhead for different organizations. Mr. Sibbald
stated that some nonprofit groups felt threatened by the CDC and that the CDC was
seen as a competing entity for resources. He further stated that the CDC had not
started as project -specific, was now trying to turn project -specific without leadership,
and doubted that it had the wherewithal to make a project happen.
Mr. Robin advised the Board concerning Pioneer. A proposed mobile home park
developer is approaching the City with an annexation and rezoning application, for
200-300 units of mobile homes, just south of the previous Summitview site. The
applicant is asking for MM zoning without a PUD condition for use by right. The
project will appear first before Council in September for annexation and then
Planning and Zoning later in September.
In response to questions by the Board, Mr. Robin stated that the project was new,
but he anticipated opposition, as with prior proposals. The developer is willing to
take Pioneer residents who have acceptable homes. Pioneer has 170 units
remaining.
Mr. Robin stated that Shelley Stephens has applied to HUD for emergency Section
8s for Pioneer residents, not limited to Fort Collins. Mr. Donaldson is negotiating with
Rusty Collins of Neighbor -to -Neighbor to provide counseling and a clearinghouse for
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funding for the Pioneer residents. The City held an information session with Pioneer
residents and received a number of applications for home assistance, a dozen of
which were for home ownership. Mr. Donaldson is also assisting residents in selling
their mobile homes. Board members discussed the market for used trailers.
Mr. Robin stated that the City is initiating an RFP process for a grant for mobile
home park relocation assistance or home buyer assistance. $235,000 is allocated
to that effort. Mr. Sibbald advised Mr. Robin to also write the RFP for a loan process
to allow CDBG funds to be loaned to a for -profit enterprise. Mr. Sibbald stated that
costs can be a detriment to a developer, so that if a low -interest CDBG loan were
available to a private developer, it could stimulate some applications. Board
members discussed the advantage of loan programs and redistributing loan income
for other projects.
Mr. Robin gave the Board an overview of Pioneer residents' feelings at the City
information meeting. They have expressed frustration, particularly with the City, have
retained an attorney, and may seek litigation against the City. The history of the
project was discussed: the City stating it would not abandon the Pioneer issue; the
expectations that the statement raised; and the situation as it now exists. Mr. Robin
stated that although some residents are interested in home assistance, the majority
wish to move their units to a new park.
Mr. Robin noted the ineffectiveness of the recent survey. The residents did not want
the City involved in the survey. Survey questions included: income levels, without
defining the categories; and prior knowledge of rezoning. The residents were
generally not in favor of moving to apartments. The residents wish another mobile
home park to be available to them.
In response to a query by Ms. Greer, Mr. Robin and the Board discussed the original
Donaldson Summitview proposal. Although problems existed in the proposal, the
denial was due to neighborhood opposition. In response to a comment about
miscommunication at the Council meeting, Mr. Sibbald stated that Council members
were explained the meaning of their vote in unequivocal terms and that the applicant
was approved with rezoning to IL, which was unacceptable. Mr. Robin noted that the
new developer would abandon the project if MM zoning were not granted.
Mr. Browning asked if the Pioneer residents were being informed that a mobile home
park was going to be available. Mr. Robin stated that he was informing people of the
type of proposal; that there were no guarantees; that he encouraged residents to
explore other options. Mr. Browning and Mr. Sibbald stated that the residents are
aware that no mobile home parks are available before Pioneer is redeveloped but
that the City and Housing Authority assured residents otherwise.
Mr. Sibbald expressed doubt that emergency Section 8 assistance would be
available. Mr. Robin noted the existence of the special reserve fund to which
application was being made. Mr. Sibbald compared the Pioneer issue with the
hurricane destruction of mobile homes in Pensacola and the need for emergency
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assistance in that setting. Mr. Robin concurred but stated that the Pioneer situation
did fall under the guidelines for emergency assistance.
Mr. Sibbald and Mr. Browning stated that the City and Housing Authority had not
abided by their commitment to the Pioneer residents, and that the residents view the
City and Housing Authority as one entity. Mr. Robin reported on his recent visit to
Pioneer and echoed the residents' frustrations. Mr. Sibbald expressed some
bafflement on City actions in rezoning, displacement of the residents, and views on
the Harmony Corridor Plan.
Mr. Robin expressed hope that the current proposal would be approved; Mr. Sibbald
stated that it would not be timely for the Pioneer residents. Mr. Robin informed the
Board that Mr. Donaldson would be willing to delay redevelopment of the Pioneer
site should other mobile home sites become available. Mr. Browning, stated that the
prior rezoning effort may have been motivated more to prevent litigation than to
move the park.
Ms. Cosgrove asked that the Board work plan be placed on the next agenda, to be
specifically addressed. She stated that the Utility Department is willing to present
new ideas in response to the Board's previously expressed concerns. The Utility
Department has stated that some of the items they reported on were in error, and
they wished to clarify those issues for the Board. Problems were discovered as a
result of the Board's statements.
Mr. Sibbald stated that a fiscal analysis study will be reviewed by Council in October,
a portion of which will be a range of new impact fees to be levied on developments.
Mr. Sibbald requested a short memo from staff enumerating the elements of that
discussion. He stated that new fees will be added and masked as growth -related. He
does not feel that the proposals will viably include affordable housing as an
exception.
Ms. Greer asked whether progress had been made on the Planning and Zoning
appeal process. Ms. Cosgrove and Mr. Sibbald stated that the Board's
recommendation had been declined by Council in work session.
Nothing further has been heard from HUD concerning the conflict of interest
situation. Mr. Robin stated that he would advise the Board of HUD's response.
Mr. Browning moved for adjournment, seconded by Ms. Nabors. Upon a unanimous
vote, the meeting adjourned at 5:55 p.m.