HomeMy WebLinkAboutAffordable Housing Board - Minutes - 09/07/1995AFFORDABLE HOUSING BOARD
MEETING MINUTES
September 7, 1995
The meeting of the Affordable Housing Board began at 4:10 p.m. in the Community
Planning Conference Room, 281 North College Avenue, Fort Collins, Colorado.
Board members present were Chairperson Mary Cosgrove, Joanne Greer, Ann
Sanders, Christa Sarrazin, Tom Sibbald, Sue Wagner, Tony Kavanagh, Susan
Nabors, and Bob Browning. Staff members present were Ken Waido, Dickson Robin,
Felix Lee, and Tess Heffernan. Gina Janeft was present from City Council. Doug
Schwartz, from Light and Power, and Bruce Brown, from County Weatherization,
were also present.
Public comment was solicited. Betty Maloney, from the Affordable Housing Task
Force, addressed the issue of difficulty in gaining community approval in placing
affordable housing projects and the need to educate the community on affordable
housing. She explained that a study has been performed on what happens to
property values of structures located near affordable housing or public housing
projects. The study found no difference in the property values of these structures.
Ms. Maloney added that John Barnett from the County has great insight into the
unique processes of affordable housing and wished to pass his name onto the
Board.
Ms. Maloney also mentioned that the Affordable Housing Task Force will be
conducting a community education process on affordable housing and suggested
this Board and the Affordable Housing Task Force work together in their community
education to avoid duplicating efforts.
John Meleski, of the Building Review Board, requested to delay his comments until
later in the meeting. After some discussion, this was agreed to by the Board.
Lou Stitzel wanted to emphasize the importance of total community education. She
feels that too often neighborhoods act like separate entities, and they must act as
part of the whole community. She believes that it is important to determine how to
help people develop the capacity to live in neighborhoods trained to be a part of the
whole community.
No further public comment was heard.
Ms. Cosgrove requested a change in the previous meeting minutes. Her belief is that
the comment she had made in the discussion of household composition actually had
to do with the mini task forces looking at trying to liberalize those policies. She didn't
feel such was accurately reflected and suggested Staff change the wording. No other
corrections were noted.
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Moved by Ms. Nabors, seconded by Ms. Wagner: To approve the minutes
anticipating the correction about discussion on household composition. Motion
approved unanimously.
Tess Heffernan, the City's Neighborhood Resources Manager, explained her
department as follows:
The Neighborhood Resources Office has been in existence for six months and
consists of basically Ms. Heffernan and one support staff.
The mission of the office is threefold: 1) Build neighborhood capacity to work
on issues of interest to neighborhood groups; 2) Empower groups and individuals to
solve their own problems through troubleshooting, providing help in resources and/or
information, and enabling people to accomplish what they need for themselves; 3)
Work with the City organization to aid City Staff members in working with
neighborhoods.
The Congress of Neighborhoods is used to provide training to individuals for
leading neighborhood groups.
Community outreach is utilized by the department.
The department has a neighborhood resources center, a workstation for
neighborhood groups or individuals. This provides access to a computer, a place to
meet, a way to create newsletters, fliers, minutes, et cetera.
The department also provides a newsletter to the neighborhood groups.
The department does not set the issues that neighborhood groups deal with.
Ms. Heffernan provided copies of the City's Neighborhood Handbook, which is a
summary of the operating neighborhood groups and information about the City
organization.
Discussion was held on the possibility of this Board contacting any neighborhood
groups for possible affordable housing discussions. Ms. Heffernan suggested that
such contact should be directly through the chairperson of a group rather than
through her.
It was suggested that the Affordable Housing Board should be represented at the
Congress of Neighborhoods, and it was believed that the Board was represented last
year by an undetermined individual. Ms. Heffernan stated that she would make sure
the Affordable Housing Board was placed on the list for future Congress of
Neighborhoods meetings.
Discussion was held on the preferability of communicating with neighborhoods on
the issue of affordable housing prior to the issue being heard by the Planning and
Zoning Board. It was determined that prior discussions with neighborhood groups
would be beneficial. Ms. Heffernan could be utilized as a facilitator in these
discussions.
Ms. Heffernan's advice was sought in formatting the affordable housing educational
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process for the community. She stated objectivity through numbers is often
beneficial, concise, short presentations are best, and face-to-face contact is the most
favorable.
Discussion was held on the status of $15,000 for development of a public education
program regarding affordable housing. It was stated that the $15,000 has been
requested but not actually obtained at this point. Staff was asked to notify the Board
of where the money will come from and how it should be used.
A date for Ms. Greer's subcommittee meeting will be set at a later time. Ms.
Cosgrove, Ms. Wagner, and Marsha Denadety, from the Larimer Affordable Housing
Task Force, have volunteered as subcommittee members. Mr. Robin will attend as
the Staff resource person.
Mr. Robin presented an update on the Pioneer Mobile Home Park as follows:
- There is a petition to annex and rezone a 70-acre parcel with the intention of
developing roughly 35 to 40 acres for mobile home units with approximately 250
spaces.
- Application for rezoning is MM, use by right for a mobile home park.
- A tentative open -house neighborhood meeting is scheduled for the third week of
September.
- The item will be going to the Planning and Zoning Board on September 25th.
- The item will go before the City Council for decision on October 3rd.
- A relocation program has been initiated by Neighbor to Neighbor.
- An amount of money has been set aside per household to help with relocation.
- It is anticipated that Neighbor to Neighbor may be applying to access part of the
$235,000 that has been set aside.
Possible neighborhood resistance to the new mobile home park was questioned. Mr.
Robin said no opposition has surfaced at this point in time and is unsure of possible
future opposition.
Notice of the upcoming neighborhood meeting for the project was requested by the
Board.
Mr. Felix Lee gave a presentation of the Model Energy Code. He stated that the first
reading for the revisions of the Code had been tentatively scheduled for the October
17th City Council meeting.
Discussion was held on the Building Review and Natural Resources Boards prior
rejection of the Code. It was stated that the Building Review Board would like to see
substantiation of figures in the Code, and the Natural Resources Board would like
more information.
The question of the most significant difference between the current standard and the
proposed standard was raised. Mr. Lee replied that basement insulation would be
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the most significant difference. Currently, basement insulation is not required. Mr.
Lee stated that there is considerable evidence that significant heat loss occurs
through the basement system. He stated that at least 50 percent of the up -front
additional cost of implementing the upgrade will be a result of the basement
insulation. However, all additional costs from upgrading will be returned to the
consumer through energy bill reduction according to the Model Energy Code
calculations.
Discussion was held on the apparent inequity in the new construction home upgrade
requirements in comparison to no upgrade requirements for existing homes. Mr.
Schwartz replied that during construction is the most cost-effective time to address
energy conservation in homes, and it is oftentimes not cost effective to upgrade
existing homes. However, he suggested that feelings of existing inequity could be
an issue raised with City Council.
John Meleski relayed his concerns with the Model Energy Code. He explained he
has not had an opportunity to analyze the figures set forth by Mr. Schwartz.
However, he has performed a superficial estimate as to insulating the basement
walls and did not agree with Mr. Schwas figures. The only portion of the Code Mr.
Meleski did agree with was the idea of having the general contractor sign off on a
house upon completion to verify that the house was insulated properly.
Comments were made that although the initial added cost may not be substantial
and will be returned through reduced bills, any additional cost will decrease the
number of people who will qualify for loans.
Discussion was held on whether or not any local communities with similar
compositions of climate and energy costs have adopted these energy upgrades and,
if so, whether any studies have been undertaken on whether this Code upgrade will
actually be beneficial. Mr. Schwartz replied that Longmont and Boulder have
adopted codes which are identical with most of the requirements in this model.
However, he is unaware of any local level evaluation.
Comment was heard that past experience demonstrates insulating basements
oftentimes is a worthless effort because of improper installation. It was suggested
that perhaps floor joist insulation would be more beneficial. Mr. Schwartz replied that
some training would ensure proper basement perimeter insulation and doing such
was more effective than insulating the floor and isolating the basement from the
heated space of the house. However, it was believed that insulating the floor would
be somewhat less expensive than insulating the basement perimeter.
Bruce Brown stated that he believes a tremendous amount of analysis has been
done across the country with existing home weatherization, and with this new Code,
an average of 15 to 20 percent savings on fuel bills has been realized. He believes
this upgrade is an incremental step that should be taken.
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A suggestion was made that perhaps this upgrade could be an option rather than a
requirement.
A request was made for a study on who would be excluded from purchasing a new
home with these energy upgrades as interest rates increase incrementally.
Mr. Lee, Mr. Brown, and Mr. Schwartz were requested to return for the October
Board meeting with further information that may answer some of the questions raised
on the Model Energy Code. Mr. Schwartz stated he would like to have a list on
specific information the Board is looking for. He also wanted to add the following
comments:
- Cost is a barrier whenever energy improvements are suggested, and the dilemma
is payment of additional costs on the front end to reduce cost on the back end.
- It is important to recognize that this is one of the few increased costs that pays
back.
- From an affordable housing standpoint, the total cost of owning a house must be
examined, not just placing all concerns with keeping initial costs as low as possible.
- This upgrade is a good long-term investment that provides lower energy bills.
A motion on the Model Energy Code was delayed until further information is
received.
Mr. Waido summarized the rebate program. Mercy Housing is building an affordable
housing project outside the city limits of Fort Collins and has requested a rebate
proportionate to what they would have paid in the city. Two questions therefore arise:
Should the rebate program be extended to affordable housing projects that are built
in the City's urban growth area outside the city limits? If so, how much of a rebate
would be applicable since not all City improvement fees would apply?
Several questions were raised by the Board:
Does the Board have the financial capability to fund affordable housing
projects outside of the city limits?
Would the County be willing to also provide financial assistance since the City
would be providing assistance in the county?
If money is being collected from the fee generators within the city, can those
funds legally be distributed outside of the city?
Will such actions really benefit the residents of Fort Collins?
It was decided that no further determination should be made until Staff speaks with
legal counsel to determine the legality of distributing funds outside of the city limits.
However, a letter was received from Mercy Housing on this request, and it was
determined that Ms. Cosgrove and Mr. Browning would draft a letter in response to
their request addressing the following points: 1) Encouragement should be given in
support of building an affordable housing project. 2) Legal advice was being sought
on this issue. 3) The Board would like to know the reasoning behind Mercy's
reservations about being annexed into the City.
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Discussion was held on the delays that have occurred in developing the work plan
for this Board. It was stated that the work plan will be ready for presentation at the
October meeting.
Mr. Waido stated that HUD has not yet produced anything in writing on the Board's
conflict of interest. He also stated he had recently returned from a meeting with HUD
and relayed that HUD felt that members of this Board would have a conflict of
interest if they were making any recommendations regarding HOME program or
CDBG program activities even at a policy level.
It was felt that City Council needed to make a decision on what they wanted the
Board to do regarding this conflict of interest. Ms. Janett relayed that City Council
still wants the Board's expertise and review. It was determined that the Board
needed to wait for a letter from HUD, and at that point, they could file for an
exemption. Mr. Waido stated that the Board members would be receiving a copy of
HUD's letter as soon as it is received.
Mr. Sibbald questioned why he had not received the memo from Staff that had been
requested at the Board's previous meeting pertaining to new impact fees developing
as a result of Development Phase 2. Mr. Waido replied that he had requested that
the Affordable Housing Board get a copy of these materials. Ms. Janett explained
that the following areas of service have been selected: police, fire, recreation,
general government, cultural, and costs have been determined for various land use.
There is also a request to look at the equity issue between single family and
multifamily housing. All issues are being examined for presentation to the public. Mr.
Sibbald stated that he would like to see all the figures before public presentation is
made. It was undetermined whether such materials would be completed before the
next meeting of the Board.
Ms. Sarrazin moved adjournment, seconded by Ms. Greer. Upon unanimous vote,
the meeting adjourned at 6:30 p.m.