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JOINT MEETING
CITY OF FORT COLLINS
AFFORDABLE HOUSING BOARD
CDBG COMMISSION
Meeting Minutes
March 6, 1997
Affordable Housing Board:
Bob Browning, Chair
Gina Janett, City Council Liaison
CDBG Commission:
Bill Steffes, Chair
Bob McCluskey, City Council Liaison
Staff Liaison:
Ken Waldo
The meeting was called to order at 6:00 p.m.
Affordable Housing Board Members present: Chairman Bob Browning, Bruce Croissant,
Joanne Greer, Susan Nabors, Mike Nicely, Stacy Overton, Terry Wahl.
CDBG Board Members present: Chairman Bill Steffes, Bill Bertschy, David Gordon, Vi
Guthrie, Bobbie Guye, Tim Ostic, and Joe Zimlich.
Staff Present: Ken Waido, Mary Hile, Julie Smith. Mr. Waido stated that Dickson Robin
and Jackie Davis were absent due to illness.
The Authority and Commission members introduced themselves and gave backgrounds
of their participation and interest in serving on the boards.
Ken Waido explained the history and rationale behind the two boards' focus on affordable
housing. He reviewed the guidelines for the Affordable Housing Board and the
requirements and functions applicable to the CDBG.
Mr. Waido discussed the agenda packets, which include an affordable housing annual
report and a summary of the CDBG and HOME programs. The Federal definition of
affordable housing was reviewed: Housing that can be occupied by a family earning 80
percent of area median income, paying no more than 30 percent of its income for housing.
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Mr. Waido commented on the trend to provide housing for the 50-80 percent AMI bracket
and noted prevailing comments on whether affordable housing production should be so
tightly focused on that bracket. Points that are being discussed within the City include:
Applications can be made for CDBG funds to build housing focusing on the 30-50 percent
AMI; grants for such housing would take a bigger slice of the CDBG funding pie than other
projects, providing less funding elsewhere.
Discussion among Board and Commission members involved the following issues:
• The amount of funding needed for a significant number of low-income housing units
would exhaust the CDBG source quickly.
• Some incentives currently offered, such as fee rebates, have very few strings attached.
The Affordable Housing Board is looking at ways to ensure that Fort Collins citizens
receive a benefit from the subsidy.
• Housing cannot be economically provided to make a significant difference below 30
percent AMI. Projects do not cash -flow below that level.
• Nonprofit projects can be viable in serving 30-50 percent AMI, with CARE being a
primary example. CARE's average tenant AMI is 41 percent.
• Governmental and private incentives are needed to provide housing at the lower end
of the AMI spectrum.
• National subsidies do not exist for the lower end of the spectrum. Projects such as
Kaufman & Broad are targeted to the higher end of the affordable spectrum.
• An example was given that a person working 40 hours a week at $6 an hour, for a
family of four, would fall in the 25 percent AMI.
• At the lower end of the spectrum, people have to be on vouchers or face no housing.
• CARE provides housing at a percent of income rather than a flat -rate rent, to keep
tenants from exceeding housing costs of 30 percent of income.
• About $575,000 of subsidy money has been used for the Swallow project. If half of the
CDBG grant were to be used for just that project, it would provide housing for only two
to four percent of the waiting list.
In response to questions, Mr. Waido noted that Staff lacks good information about the true
housing need. Staff has used the Housing Authority waiting list as a barometer to gauge
the need for affordable housing; however, it is not an accurate means of judging population
and growth. The presence of college students tends to skew the results, both in housing
need and income; a student's income may be low but the student still has disposable
money provided by his parents. The results are also skewed by entities who cater to a
certain AMI segment claiming a high need within that segment.
Discussion was held on Housing Authority methods. The Housing Authority tends to serve
the needs of the higher percentage (50-60) AMI population, although that population is
already being served by private providers. Sometimes the rents set by the Housing
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Authority exceed those in the private sector. Mr. Waido suggested that the Housing
Authority be invited to the next joint meeting to discuss these issues.
The waiting lists in the private sector projects have been growing shorter; at least, at those
projects that share such information. This may be an indication that, at some level,
affordable housing needs are being met. A housing/needs inventory is possible at the
project level; however, it is impractical to track from the private residence side.
Anecdotally, projects are complaining about the amount of affordable housing
developments in progress.
Mr. Steffes stated that CDBG is willing to listen to any ideas regarding to affordable
housing. The criteria for CDBG goes beyond affordable housing into the arena of public
service, which accounts for 15 percent of CDBG funding. In addition, CDBG gets requests
for economic improvement issues besides affordable housing. City Council has asked
CDBG over the last four years to consider affordable housing needs; as a result, funding
has focused in that area.
A question was asked if CDBG grants could be considered more than once a year,
because the projects do not always coincide with application dates. CDBG funding follows
Federal guidelines and dates. Council then approves or disapproves the projects awarded
by CDBG. All grants must be finalized by October 1.
HOME funds are available at any time. The decision was made not to put them in the
same funding cycle as CDBG. HOME can be used to fill gaps for any money not granted
by CDBG, or if the project cannot wait for the next Federal cycle to receive money to finish
a project.
CDBG has considered providing a second cycle for applications; however, notices are sent
out early enough for applications to be practical for applicants. Many times, applicants are
not able to complete their applications with 15 months of lead time. The Affordable
Housing Board could perhaps play a role of funneling potential applicants to CDBG if they
perceive an entity with a need for CDBG funding.
Discussion was held on means of tracking subsidy moneys, awarded to help lower rents,
that a developer takes out of the city. Other discussion was held on development
strategies. The following issues were raised:
• Defining the best use of dollars.
• How developers use rebates, how much profit they earn through various strategies,
and how whether the subsidy becomes necessary, given the amount of profit.
• Whether the City suffers by the amount of money leaving the community.
• Putting requirements on a lower average AMI level in projects to be built using CDBG
funding. This was seen as impractical due to: developers needing numbers that will
work rather than numbers that are mandated; the inability of a project to cash -flow at
very low percent of AMI.
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• At 30 percent AMI and below, much of that population may be too volatile to work with
effectively.
• The below-50 percent of AMI needs to be targeted more effectively; the floor of
effective AMI levels needs to be lowered below 30 percent.
• The Housing Authority exists to provide for very low percent of AMI populations.
• While tax credit approvals may be available at lower AMI levels, tax credit investors will
not contribute.
• A conundrum exists with private developers: How many units will $100,000 provide for,
and would the developer proceed anyway without the $100,000?
• Sometimes the decision of funding becomes a political decision with City Council
holding sway.
• The funding pie may sometimes be divided into too many pieces to provide effective
housing moneys.
• Welfare reform will have a huge impact on very low-income people and the housing
they can obtain.
• Subsidized housing cannot, by antidiscrimination laws, specify families only.
The attendees discussed means of inventorying the community housing stock. The
Affordable Housing Board has suggested for several years the hiring of a consultant to
gather that data and help define the market needs and means of meeting those needs.
Discussion was held on future problem areas. Potential areas of concern are families, the
elderly, people reliant on Section 8 subsidies, and mobile home park residents. Mobile
home parks locally appear to be volatile and may be slowly replaced by more profitable
uses. In discussion regarding the fate of Pioneer, it was noted that 92 percent of those
residents have remained in the city. Many other closings are possible in the near future.
Mr. Steffes noted that another function of CDBG was economic development. Funds could
theoretically be used to generate employment, education, and training opportunities in the
city, thereby creating and providing employment. CDBG has not yet spent money in this
endeavor. Any jobs created using CDBG funds would have to be provided to low-income
people. The possibility of seeing applicants for this type of funding is not high.
In response to questions, Staff noted that press releases are sent to the newspaper
regarding the positive impacts of CDBG funding, without a great deal of publication
success. The application process is completed at the end of March.
Mr. Browning offered the aid of the Affordable Housing Board in helping to evaluate
affordable housing applications. Mr. Waido noted that many past comments of the Board
were taken into account in formulating the present application form. Applications are
available on paper, on disk, and over the Internet.
Attendees noted the differences in the CDBG process in Fort Collins from other cities;
some other cities retain all funding to be expended by governmental authorities. The level
of Federal funding has remained fairly consistent. 10 percent of the funding is allocated
to administration, but the City spends more than 10 percent on CDBG-related issues. The
HOME program is limited to 10 percent for administration.
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The attendees generally agreed on the concept of inviting the Housing Authority for a
three-way meeting on affordable housing issues. The Authority is not funded or controlled
by the City, except that the Council appoints the directors. CDBG Commission should be
an attendee to such a meeting rather than invite the Authority; the Authority may well be
an applicant, and the Commission must maintain its neutrality.
The Affordable Housing Board will discuss the issue of incentives for housing directed at
a lower percent of AN and attempt to form a recommendation for the CDBG Commission.
Such direction would be applied for the 1998 application process.
The meeting adjourned at 7:30 p.m.