HomeMy WebLinkAboutTransportation Board - Minutes - 07/19/2000Draft minutes to be approved by the Transportation Board at their August 16, 2000 meeting.
REGULAR MEETING MINUTES of the
TRANSPORTATION BOARD
July 19, 2000 5:45 p.m.
City of Fort Collins — City Hall West
300 LaPorte Avenue
FOR REFERENCE:
Chair:
Tim Johnson................416-0821
Vice Chair:
Chris Ricord.................472-8769
Staff Liaison:
Randy Hensley.............416-2058
Admin Support:
Cynthia Scott ...............224-6058
BOARD MEMBERS PRESE d
Dan Gould
Bruce Henderson
Tim Johnson
Tom Kramer
Chris Ricord
Brent Thordarson
Heather Trantham
Mary Warring
Steve Yeldell
CITY STAFF IN ATTENDANCE:
Gary Diede
Susanne Durkin
Randy Hensley
Dean Klingner
John Lang
Cam McNair
Keith Meyer
Ron Mills
Ron Phillips
Cynthia Scott
ABSENT:
Brad Miller (excused)
Ray Moe
GUESTS IN ATTENDANCE:
Ruby Dodd — 3223 S. Taft Hill
Mr. & Mrs. Hinrichs — 3223 S. Taft Hill
Rob Hume - consultant
Pat O'Donnell — 2604 S. Taft Hill
Mary White — 3113 S. Taft Hill
Chair Johnson called the meeting to order at 5:55 p.m.
1. PUBLIC COMMENT
Public comments were heard during the S. Taft Hill Widening Project agenda item, later
in the meeting.
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2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
There was a motion and a second to approve the June 21, 2000 Transportation Board
meeting minutes as presented. The minutes were unanimously approved as presented.
3, COUNCIL LIAISON REPORT
Not present.
4. DISCUSSION ITEM
a) MASON ST. TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR (MSTC) — Susanne Durkin
Durkin provided an update on the MSTC. The Downtown Circulation Analysis Summary
offers the following two options which were discussed briefly:
#1 One Way Couplet
#2 Conversion of Mason/Howes couplet to two-way, no left turns on Mason.
Sam Otero talked about the Drake undercrossing suggestion that was brought up by
Dan Gould previously. He estimated that it would cost roughly $10-25M to do the
undercrossing and said that there are other concerns in addition to the cost.
There will be an update next month at which time the board will need to discuss plan
prioritization. By the end of August, the Board will have the draft Master Plan. At the
September board meeting, members will need to make a recommendation to City
Council as it goes before them on October 3 for approval.
5. ACTION ITEM
a) S. TAFT HILL ROAD WIDENING PROJECT — John Lang/Dean Klingner
John Lang, S. Taft Hill Project Manager, explained that this item is going before City
Council during a Study Session on July 25 and it would be helpful to have a
recommendation from the Transportation Board on a preferred design. This item will
then be presented at a regular meeting of the Council on August 15.
Lang explained that there is controversy about how wide the street should be.
Originally, 115' was approved in the Building Community Choices package. This width
was first presented to the residents in the area and was immediately rejected.
Engineering staff then developed a 108' option, which was also rejected by the residents
for various reasons. Staff redesigned it and presented a 100' option. The residents
developed an 86' wide roadway proposal that does away with the landscape median and
narrows the left -turn lanes, but Engineering has several safety concerns with that
design.
Dean Klingner spoke about the access issues with each of the various options. There
was a discussion about the width of the travel lanes: 11' versus 12' in terms of safety.
The traffic engineer feels that 11' is perfectly safe, as a matter of fact, 11' is used widely
throughout Fort Collins.
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Klingner explained that the 12' travel lane became the new standard as of the creation of
City Plan. In an area with new development, where there isn't any property impacts,
staff would consider the 12' standard ideal. On an infill project such as this, 11' is
perfectly acceptable.
PUBLIC COMMENT:
Pat O'Donnell (lives at comer of Taft/Drake)
I am heavily impacted. I don't see the need for having double left-tum lanes. I
started with 6.5 acres and will be down to 3.x acres between the improvements that
were done a few years ago and the current proposed improvements. I'd like the City
to take another look and realize that I am a citizen and the City just can't run right
over people and their property. If the road is raised up, a slope easement is
created. When that happens, it will come right into my house. Everything, all the
trees would have to be tom down. I think there's a way to do the widening without
the right -turn lane and be safe. Build a retaining wall. I think any other way would
be insensitive to my needs. I appreciate that they have listened to us. The City
should buy the whole piece of property and then they can do what they want with it.
However, when there is a slope easement you only get 25% of what it is actually
worth. That's just not fair.
Mani Whitg - 3113 S. Taft Hill Road
I'm concerned about access to and from the three businesses and one residence
located there. As the street is proposed, we would be limited to right -turn only to get
out.
We are also very concerned about emergency access. The fire station is near, but
in order to get a fire truck into our driveway, they would have to go to some point
north in order to turn around. Since a medical practice is located there, and my
husband is a chiropractor, emergency access is a concern to us. It will also be
difficult to give directions to patients to get to our business. We feel that the width
concern is secondary to access concerns. We would like to have the ability to turn
left out of our driveway.
Board Member Henderson mentioned that at the walk-through on Saturday, he and
Mrs. White discussed an alternative, which would be for the City to work out a
deeded joint access with the Becvars to Moffat. This alternative would be
acceptable to the Whites, but she isn't sure how the neighbors would feel about it.
Larry Hinrichs _ 3223 S. Taft Hill Road
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Following public comment, a thorough dialogue lasted for approximately an hour and a
half. McNair addressed Mr. O'Donnell's issue by stating that the City is considering
Purchasing his entire property so the City can do what needs to be done there including
the proper turn lanes, the access control, the pedestrian/bike trail, the natural wildlife
corridor, etc.
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It was noted that the Poudre Fire Authority was contacted with regard to the emergency
vehicle access concerns. he median. at PFA said the trucks could make the tums and that in
general, they support
There was consensus that that the bike lanes should be constructed with full concrete
aprons.
Most of the dialogue centered around whether the travel lanes should be narrowed from
12 feet to 11 feet, with three Board members feeling that 12 feet should be maintained at
the expense of the medians and parkways.
There was a motion and a second to recommend the 100' ROW typical section as
proposed by staff with the understanding
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specific access/issues with property
vote 6-3.
A second motion was made to encourage staff to consider the possibility of additional,
flexible alternatives within the 100width of ROW, while maintaining 12' lanes at the
expense of medians and parkways. The motion failed 3-6.
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4. ACT�TEM
b) PARKING RATIOS TASK FORCE — Phillips
been formed to tackle the issue of new office
Phillips explained that a Task Force has
development and parking ratios. The group would like one Transportation Board
member to complete the committee membership.
After discussing August calendars and vacations, it was agreed that Warring will attend
the first meeting on July 31 and she, Bruce or Steve will attend the remaining three
meetings
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b) CMAQ UPDATE — Hensley
Hensley said that the issue was taken to the North Front Range ovedransportation &Air
Quality PlanningCouncil on Jul 6 and the process was app
The issue was raised about public participation, so staff added two more opportunities
for input and it was agreed that the NFRT & AQPC meeting, in which the projects
themselves are approved for submittal for CMAQ funds, would be held in Fort Collins.
Hensley stated the Board members could suggest projects to their representative on the
NFRT & AQPC — Mike Byrne.
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5. DISCUSSM ITEM
C) TRANSPORTATION FUNDING ISSUES UPDATE — Hensley
Hensley reported that staff did not get a clear-cut direction from City Council on this
issue. City Manager John Fischbach took the issue to the Executive Lead Team for
action. That group developed recommendations that were submitted to City Council.
More information will be shared, as it becomes available.
5. DISCUSSIQN ITEM
d) TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT/SAFETY CAMPAIGN — Sub -committee
Warring stated that she and Chair Johnson met with Chief Harrison and discussed the
draft statement with him. Highlights of the discussion were:
1. Perhaps Federal grant program funds could be used instead of the City's
General Fund.
2. There is a truck route ordinance in Arizona that worked to keep trucks off
city streets. Warring will get a copy of that.
3. Part of the problem is there is a need to synchronize State Highways with
local streets — need a ROW law through the State.
4. The current signal system is cause of a lot of accidents.
6. REPORTS
a) Board Member Report
Thordarson: Light Rail. Light rail is opening in Denver. The best part is
reading that the developer was excited about the pedestrian
opportunities it presented.
Johnson: Thanks. Thanks to the members who were able to participate in
the walk-through on Saturday for the S. Taft Hill Road project. It
was beneficial.
b) Staff Reports
Hensley: CDOT Open Hous . Public review of CDOT's 20-year plan will be
on July 25 at the Larimer County Courthouse, 200 Oak Street,
from 5 - 8 p.m.
Next Aaenda.
- Roundabout/Public Outreach & Education Process — Reavis
- Review & Discussion of City's Legislative Agenda - Phillips
- Mason Street Transportation Corridor Update - Durkin
- Traffic Enforcement/Safety Update
7. OTHER BUSINESS
There being no other business, the meeting adjourned at 9:45 p.m.
Cynthia L. Scott
Executive Administrative Assistant