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BUILDING REVIEW BOARD - Regular Meeting
MEMBERS PRESENT:
April 30, 1992 9:15am
Minutes
Chris Allison
Harry Cornell
Charles Cotterman
Mike Sutton
Susan Kruel-Froseth
MEMBERS ABSENT: Doug Johnson
Mark Goldrich
STAFF LIAISON: Felix Lee
STAFF SUPPORT PRESENT: Felix Lee
Ann Reichert
Warren Jones,
Roger Frasco,
COUNCIL LIAISON: Susan Kirkpatrick
Poudre Fire
Poudre Fire
The minutes of the March meeting were approved with correction.
Ron Schroeder, Schroeder Homes appeared before the Board requesting
a D License and Certificate.
Board member Cotterman asked Mr. Schroeder if he had a license in
the City of Fort Collins previously. Mr. Schroeder stated he had
not. Board member Sutton questioned Mr. Schroeder about some of his
job references. Mr. Schroeder stated he had his own contracting
business from 1978-1982 but worked in the County so had no license.
Board member Sutton moved to approve Mr. Ron Schroeder for testing
for a Class D license and certificate. Board member Cotterman
seconded the motion. The motion passed.
Robert Kamke appeared before the Board requesting a Class D license
and certificate. He stated he presently holds a jobbing license in
Fort Collins and is seeking a higher license to do structural work.
Board member Sutton asked Mr. Kamke what kind of houses he built in
New York. Mr. Kamke stated he did custom homes with all of them
being major structural projects.
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Board chairman Allison asked Mr. Kamke what his job was on the
experience reference 78 Sunset Hill Rd. Mr. Kamke stated he
expanded a room and moved exterior walls. Board member Cotterman
asked Mr. Kamke to explain the homes he built in New York. Mr.
Kamke stated 18 years ago the houses he built were approximately
$80,00-$100,000 homes and one large project took 39 months to
complete.
Board member Cotterman moved to approve Mr. Robert Kamke for
testing for a Class D license and certificate. Board member Cornell
seconded the motion. The motion passed.
,Dennis Morgan of Gevena Homes appeared before the Board requesting
a Class C-02 certificate.
Board chairman Allison asked Mr. Morgan about a job experience
reference in Greeley. Mr. Morgan stated that job was apartments.
He also stated he worked as supervisor for three years in Wyoming.
In 1984 Mr. Morgan held a license with the city of Fort Collins.
Board chairman Allison stated only two references reflect C-02
experience. Mr. Morgan stated he had experience building a 5
million dollar apartment project with Les Corum and he served as a
superintendent on the project. Mr. Morgan is now the project
manager of the California series for Geneva Homes. Board member
Sutton inquired if Geneva has plans to build multi -family units.
Mr. Morgan stated Geneva does, but not in the near future.
Mr. Morgan stated he passed the Contractors Class B test in
Wyoming.
Mr. Morgan requested to change his request to apply for a Class D
certificate.
Board member Sutton moved to approve Dennis Morgan for testing for
a class D certificate with possible waiver of testing. Felix Lee
will verify with Wyoming if the Class B test is comparable to our
Class D test. Board member Cotterman seconded the motion. The
motion passed.
Carl Sandusky- of CSI Construction appeared before the Board
requesting a Class B license and certificate.
Board member Cotterman verified with Mr. Sandusky that held a Class
A unlimited license in Denver and a Class B license in Boulder.
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The Board discussed with Mr. Sandusky the experience references
received.
Board member Cotterman moved to approve Mr. Sandusky for a class
B license and certificate with a waiver of testing. Board member
Sutton seconded the motion. Board member Sutton stated Mr. Sandusky
was short job verifications, but felt the licenses he held was an
acknowledgment of his experience. The motion passed.
James Jansma, Jansma Construction, applied for a class D license
and certificate. The Board reviewed his job verifications.
It was moved by Board member Sutton to approve James Jansma for
testing for a class D license and certificate. Board member Cornell
seconded the motion. The motion passed.
A complaint against Old Tyme Sheet Metal was heard by the Board.
Board chairman Chris Allison explained the procedure to those
present. Norm Graham of Old Tyme Sheet Metal was present. Felix Lee
explained the Building Inspection Department had received a
written complaint from Mr. Nordstrom that a furnace was installed
at his residence with no permit from the City.
Mr. Graham stated he had been licensed in the City of Fort Collins
for the past 30 years and he was not in the habit of not taking out
permits. He explained his son had working the business and had
gotten ill. This permit must have been overlooked. Mr. Graham
expressed regret that it happened. He stated he has licenses in
other towns and knows the codes.
Felix Lee stated no other complaints had been received against old
Tyme Sheet Metal.
Mr. Graham stated he and his son own the business and he monitors
his son's work, but didn't know about this incident until it was
too late.
Board member Cornell asked what precautions Mr. Graham would take
in the future to avoid this kind of thing happening. Mr. Graham
stated his son has just received news of his poor health. Mr.
Graham indicated his son may not be able to continue to work. There
is a possibility that they may have to shut down the shop if his
son's health doesn't get better.
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Board member Cott%rman asked if Mr. Nordstorm was being reimbursed
by Old Tyme Sheet Metal for the work. Mr. Graham stated he would be
happy to reimburse him. (Note for the record: after the hearing mr.
Graham submitted a cashier's check receipt and stated he paid Mr.
Nordstorm for a thermostat. Mr. Nordstrom later called to verify
receiving payment.)
Board chairman Allison asked Mr. Lee if Mr. Nordstrom's furnace had
passed inspection. Mr. Lee stated he did not know which company did
what work, but a permit was obtained by Mr. Nordstrom and the
inspection was done and passed.
Felix Lee stated it was the Board's charge to find fact whether
there was a violation and then how the Board wishes to address
that.
Board member Cotterman asked why Mr. Graham had not accepted the
certified letter from the City Building Inspection Office. Mr.
Graham stated his daughter-in-law received the notification of the
certified letter and didn't tell him.
The Board members discussed with Mr. Eckman of the Citys Attorney's
office the various options. It was noted Mr. Nordstrom was not
present but his letter was received as evidence.
The Board voted on the finding of fact that there was committed a,
"Willful and deliberate disregard of the Building Code or any other
code adopted by the city."
Yeas: Allison, Cotterman Nayes: Cornell, Sutton Abstain: Froseth
The Board voted on the finding of fact that there was committed a,
"Failure to comply with any of the zoning ordinances or health and
safety ordinances of the city."
Yeas: Cornell, Sutton Nayes: Allison, Cotterman Abstain: Froseth
The Board voted on the finding of fact for commission of
"negligence" as stated in the City Code.
Yeas: Cornell Nayes: Allison, Cotterman, Sutton, Abstain; Froseth
Board member Sutton and Board member Cotterman asked the Board to
reconsider their first vote. They felt there was no evidence that
this was willful and deliberate.
The Board voted on reconsidering the first item.
Yeas: Allison, Cornell, Cotterman, Sutton Abstain: Froseth
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Board member Cotterman moved that there was a failure by Old Tyme
Sheet Metal to comply with health and safety ordinances. Sutton
seconded the motion.
Yeas: Allison, Cornell, Cotterman, Sutton Abstain: Froseth
Board member Sutton stated probation of six months was an
appropriate penalty and so moved. Board member Cotterman seconded
the motion.
Yeas: Allison, Cornell, Cotterman, Sutton Abstain: Froseth
Felix Lee asked for clarification on the exact probation. Board
chairman Allison stated the Building Inspection Office would
monitor the firm's business, if there were no violations or
problems in the next six months, no further action would be taken.
Bill Tiley appeared before the Board with a code appeal, Case 92-
01, 2839 South College.
Board chairman Allison explained procedures.
Lucia Liley, attorney for Mr. Tiley presented the case. Also
present was Randy Beard, contractor for Mr. Tiley. The appeal
stated by Ms. Liley was to add area to the So -Fro fabrics by
removing one wall and not putting in a sprinkler system and adding
a smoke detection system. The building was built in 1970 and
annexed into the city in the late 701s. Ms. Liley submitted plans
of the building and an affidavit from Rhoades Reality, Inc.
According to Ms. Liley, this building was used as an open retail
space until it was remodeled in 1976. This problem was brought to
the attention of Mr. Tiley after a demolition permit was issued to
remove an existing wall. This issue surfaced when the fire
department made an inspection. She stated that So -Fro, House of.
Fabrics, has a five year lease with Mr. Tiley, with no chance to
re -negotiate the lease agreement. The expense for the sprinkler
system cannot be figured into the lease agreement, Ms. Liley went
on to say they are not adding any space, just removing one wall and
restoring it to the original layout. She also explained for fire
safety, the building was fire -rated metal with sheet rock and 1/2
of the wall on the North side is the only part that is finished
with wood, and asphalt surrounds the entire building. She indicated
remodeling would be very minor and a smoke detector and auto fire
alarm system would be installed. Mr. Tiley agreed with what Ms.
Liley's presentation and added some additional history.
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Maw. Eckman explained the different codes/laws applicable to this
situation.
Warren Jones, Poudre Fire Authority discussed with the Board and
appellant rules and regulations set by the Fire Authority.
The Board, the appellant and the contractor discussed other options
with regard to moving/not moving the wall. Mr. Lee explained that
by taking out the one wall, it would then be required to sprinkle
the entire building.
Board member Sutton stated it understandable that the appellant did
not know because of previous experience what was required by law,
but this is not an unusual situation.
Warren Jones stated he would like to see what kind of separation
with a combination of glass and doors is acceptable. This was
discussed.
Mr. Tiley stated he would have to contact the House of Fabrics
office in California and discuss this situation.
Ms. Liley asked to withdraw the appeal indicating the appellant
would possibly be pursuing a fire -rated movable partition across
the narrow dimension of the space.
Other Business:
Mr. Lee approached the board about forming a "license" task team to
get the review of the proposed license ordinance revisions moved
along more quickly. Board member Cotterman stated he felt the basic
proposed revisions could be refined and brought to the Board at the
next meeting to act upon.
After some discussion. Mr. Lee said he would do some final editing
and send a draft to Board members two weeks before the next
meeting. The Board members concurred.
The meeting was adjourned.