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MINUTES
October 29, 1987
MEMBERS PRESENT: Larry Trampe
Dick Conard
Doug Johnson
Raju Jairam
Ron Baker
Chris Allison
Bill McCaffrey
Dennis Sinnett
MEMBERS ABSENT: Harry Cornell
STAFF PRESENT: Felix Lee
Debbie Zeigler
Paul Eckman
Dan Young
The minutes of the September 24, 1987 meeting were unanimously approved.
Tom Irlbeck and McDevitt and Street were approved for a Class A license/
certificate.
Debbie explained to the Board that she had received Thomas E. Makris of
Claredon Construction's application for a Class A license/certificate just
one week prior. He had included reference letters so she went ahead and
brought it to the Board for their review. The Board felt that the refer—
ence letters submitted did not include any of the information that was
needed. Boardmember Conard made a motion to deny the application until
further references are received. The motion was seconded and passed unani—
mously.
Class B applicant Mark Shadowen, Professional Builders S Remodeling, was
denied a Class B license/certificate. All of Mr. Shadowen's references
showed residential experience. The Board therefore approved him for a
Class D license/certificate.
Arrowstone Construction Corp. was denied the Class B license they applied
for. Four of the five references submitted were from the same person and
were all on smaller commercial projects. The Board felt that the Class
C-01 license would better fit the experience shown.
Michael Parsons was approved to test for the Class C-02 certificate holder
for Bronco Construction.
The following special applicants were approved: Gerald R. Ashback, Gracon
Corp., Fuel Tank; Wayne Petts, Life —Safety Fire Systems, Inc., Fire Sprink—
lers; Randy G.Jones, Roof Doctor, Roofing; Edward H. Schubert, Fireplace
Conversions, Inc. — Fuel Gas.
OTHER BUSINESS — The Board discussed changes Debbie had made to the appli—
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cation form and the reference form and made motion to approve them with
slight modifications.
Case 02-87
ISSUE: Appeal of ordered electrical repairs in mobile home park
AFFECTED PROPERTY: Sunset Mobile Home Park, 114 S. Bryan Ave.
OWNER: Herb Carlson
APPELLANT: Same
BACKGROUND:
The appellant is requesting relief from completing repairs to mobile home
lot electrical services within the 60-day time limit specified in the Cor-
rection Notice issued by Felix Lee, Permits and Inspections Division Admin-
istrator. As the appellant's response to the notice indicates, the immedi-
ate hazards identified for Units 1, 11, and 12 have been eliminated with
appropriate repairs. The appellant has indicated that he can make the
remaining repairs over an unspecified time period subject to available
funds.
ISSUES FOR DECISION:
The appellant was served as required by law on August 20, 1987, at which
time the compliance "clock" started. A written request for appeal was
received in this office on September 2, 1987, which acts as a stay pending
an administrative hearing on the matter by the Board, in accordance with
the City Electrical Code and Dangerous Building Code administrative proce-
dures.
The board must decide and make findings of fact as to whether the action of
the City and the official involved was appropriate or not and whether that
action should be overturned, upheld, or modified based on mitigating fac-
tors and evidence submitted by the appellant and the City. Staff believes
that the owner has had ample time to make the corrections specified, given
the fact that the initial contact with the appellant by a member of this
office regarding electrical problems occurred last April.
Meeting Minutes
Felix Lee explained to the Building Review Board that notice to commence
electrical repairs had been served to the petitioner on August 20, 1987.
Inspections made on October 28, 1987 by Felix Lee and Dan Young confirmed
that no additional repairs have been made. At this time Mr. Lee introduced
the petitioner, Herb Carlson.
Mr. Carlson explained that with the financial backing that he has, he tries
to upgrade the park a little at a time. He is not in a financial position
to put much into the park. Mr. Carlson said that he had upgraded the
electrical services for three lots done when the units were replaced.
Carlson stated that most of the lots had 30 amp services except one lot
which has 25 amp service. He also stated that he is working with the City
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(Housing Authority) regarding purchasing this property and would not be
doing any of these repairs because the Housing Authority would likely con-
vert the park into a different use. Mr. Carlson said that after touring the
park with Mr. Lee on Wednesday he believes much of the repair work on the
park can be done by his maintenance men not requiring the expense of an
electrician. The emergency items in the letter of August 13, 1987 were
complied with within the time specified by a licensed electrician. Board -
member Baker asked what the emergency items were. Mr. Carlson said that
unit number 1 had a service improperly supported by phone cable and it had
a problem with a neutral leg open and Merit Electric corrected that prob-
lem. Boardmember Baker questioned whether the problems with unit number 1
were taken care of except for the service size which is still 30 amp. Mr.
Carlson said that he checked with the owner of Frontier Mobile Home Park
and that many of his lots did not have 50 amp service. Mr. Carlson felt
that his park was getting more publicity than other parks. Carlson felt
that when a unit has only a furnace motor, television and a 110 volt water
heater, it is not necessary to increase the service size. Carlson said
unit number 1 has been there for at least twenty five years. Carlson
stated the other corrections included space number 11 -meter mount was not
properly attached and had no over -current fusing. Apparently someone had
by-passed fuses prior to Carlson's ownership of the park, but he had that
corrected. In unit number 12 live parts on the line side of the meter were
exposed and that was corrected by Merit Electric also. Mr. Carlson told
the Board that emergency repairs had been taken care of and that there were
no unsafe conditions at this time.
Boardmember Baker asked if Felix Lee and his office were in agreement on
that statement. Mr. Lee said, not entirely and that all of the items do
need attention, otherwise they wouldn't have been written up. The immedi-
ate hazards have been corrected but over time the other problems cited are
considered hazards and need correction to meet minimum safety requirements.
Boardmember Sinnett asked whether the hazards are just a matter of fuses
blowing or is there a possibility of a fire. He asked how serious are
these matters in Mr. Lee's opinion. Mr. Lee said that everything had a
degree to it. Lee said that if a child were playing around one of the
boxes that had wires that weren't properly secured into the box and some of
the insulation on the wire was damaged by the rough edge on the metal box,
that this could very possibly be a hazard. He felt it was difficult to say
what is not an immediate hazard. Lee cited the three immediate hazards and
those were corrected. Lee noted he looked at the park on LaPorte (Frontier
Mobile Home Park) and while their services are not all 50 amp services,
they are all intact and safe. Boardmember Conard asked when these services
were put in, did they comply with code. He asked that if in this particu-
lar case, were we trying to upgrade that park to current code when the ser-
vices were put in under an earlier code. Mr. Lee said the 30 amp services
installed some years ago were in compliance at the time. Boardmember
Conard asked if the 30 amp service was a hazard in and of itself. Mr. Lee
answered no, not necessarily. Boardmember Conard asked if on unit number 6
the 25 amp service was a hazard by itself. Mr. Lee felt that it was,
after looking at the inspection notes of yesterday when he inspected the
park for compliance. Lee said that unit number 6 has undersized conductors
for the over -current protection (number 12 conductors for a 25 amp service)
Mr. Conard said that what he was really asking is the "undersized service"
a hazard in and of itself. Mr. Lee answered no. Boardmember McCaffrey
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said that he assumed that everyone was talking about the specific items in
the August 13, 1987 letter to Mr. Carlson. Mr. Lee affirmed this. Board -
member McCaffrey said that unit number 1 was already taken care of except
for undersized current, unit number 5 needs work, unit number 6 is just
five amps less that the problem everywhere else. . . correct? Mr. Lee
stated again that the service conductors for unit number 6 are sized for 20
amp service and the over -current protection is for 25 amp service. Mr.
McCaffrey went on, confirming that unit number 10 has 50 amp service but
the wiring is for 30 amp service; unit number 11 is corrected; unit number
12 is corrected; unit number 13 has the same problem as unit number 6; unit
number 14 is a problem in itself; and unit number 16 is a problem in
itself. Mr. Lee confirmed this. Mr. Carlson said that the meter cover was
supposed to have been replaced on unit number 16. Mr. Lee said that the
glass cover had been replaced but the metal socket box is broken. Mr. Lee
said that unit number 21 has been corrected. Mr. Carlson said that when he
removed three of these homes the service was upgraded. These included unit
number 18, number 2 and number 3. Mr. Carlson did this on his own, he was
not ordered to by the Building Inspection office.
Boardmember McCaffrey asked about the managers office. He wondered if the
meter disconnect on the outside of the building was common in older build-
ings. Mr. Lee said yes, but usually there is access to the disconnects.
This one is inside a locked managers office. It is located inside a sto-
rage closet that is locked. There are four units in that building. Board -
member Allison asked if any of the mobile homes required more than 30 amps.
Mr. Carlson said that unit number 1 wouldn't need more than a 25 amp-30 amp
service. It was probably put into the park in 1948. It has not been
upgraded but did meet code at that time. Boardmember Allison said that the
newer mobile homes would require a 50 amp service. Mr. Carlson said that
he understood that and would gladly upgrade the services when a newer home
was brought onto a lot. Mr. Carlson said that he also has houses east of
the park that are three bedrooms and they have 40 amp services and appar-
ently they were up to code when built in the late '40s. Boardmember Conard
asked what Mr. Carlson's plans for the park were. Mr. Carlson responded
that he didn't really know. He had plans to meet with the City today to
discuss that. Carlson stated that the current rental market makes it
extremely difficult to continuously borrow money and put in this project.
Carlson said that he is providing housing to a very low income group in
Fort Collins and many of those people can not even afford a $200 rent and
tenants are scraping for $100 to $150. His lowest rent is $50 per month.
Boardmember Jairam asked when the property was acquired and if at that time
Mr. Carlson was aware of the electrical problems. Mr. Carlson said he
acquired the park in 1978 and had not been aware of the problems. There are
21 spaces at the park and a four-plex. Carlson stated that one of the
units is vacant and number 12 has not been rented because it needs to be
upgraded. It's now being used for storage and is boarded up.
Chairman Larry Trampe asked if anyone in the audience had input for the
Board. Peggy Rolfes of 1535 W. Mountain Avenue read the attached letter to
the Board from the City Park Homeowners Association. The Association is
comprised of 33% of the households living within one square mile of the
park boundered by Shields Street, Tafthill, LaPorte Avenue and Mulberry.
Mr. Lee said the July 18th letter referred to in the letter is the same as
the August 13th letter. There were no other people to speak for or
against the variance.
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Boardmember Sinnett made a motion to deny the appeal (Case number 2-87).
The motion was seconded by Boardmember Jairam. Mr. Sinnett asked to be put
on record that he does realize that there is a need for low cost housing
and that he does sympathize with the financial problems of Mr. Carlson but
life safety does not have a price. One death or one accident or one person
hurt should not be a financial consideration. Therefore he plans to vote
to deny this appeal.
Boardmember Baker asked if it would be possible to separate the items on
the correction notice to those that are health and life safety or fire
related and those items that are strictly code related. Mr. Lee said the
50 amp service requirement is not a health safety issue but simply current
minimum standard for mobile homes under the original order. The other
issue are all life safety and no way to separate those out, according to
Lee. Boardmember Baker said that as he looks at the list about half of
them are health and life safety and one approach that we might take as a
compromise is to require that all of the health and life safety and fire
issues are dealt with immediately and the issues that are not in and of
themselves a health and life safety issue such as the fact that the service
is undersized according to the code could then be delayed. He asked Mr.
Lee if this could be a possibility. Mr. Lee confirmed that this could be
done. Boardmember Allison questioned the service to number 6. He asked if
everything went the way Boardmember Baker had said, shouldn't unit number 6
be left out to upgrade it. Also if newer mobile homes are moved shouldn't
the services be upgraded at that time. Mr. Lee said he would characterize
that again, the service sizes themselves are not life safety issues, but
the condition of the equipment and the way connections are made are
patently unsafe on the items cited, other than the size of the service
themselves. Boardmember Allison asked if a deadline should be given for
the service upgrades. Boardmember McCaffrey felt that position is sup-
ported by code. He noted that unless certain percentages of the building
are remodeled, the building does not have to meet current code. Felix Lee
said that was correct, but enforcement is at a threshold because the new
mobile home ordinance is technically not in effect and the 1967 ordinance
currently on the books does require 50 amp services which was enacted after
many of these mobile homes were in place. Boardmember Baker asked if the
old ordinance required updating mobile homes or does it have a grandfather
clause in it. Mr. Lee responded that it does not have a grandfather provi-
sion in it allowing existing conditions to continue. Boardmember Baker
asked how it was being enforced. Mr. Lee said that it hasn't been broadly
enforced. In fact, he said, for comparison, that Frontier Park, a few
years ago, when it was under previous ownership, required electrical
repairs and many of those services are not 50 amp but were brought into a
safe condition. Boardmember Trampe felt the Board's concerns were entirely
life safety. He went on to say that apparently when the services were put
in they complied with code and it would seem that if Carlson was given a
reasonable amount of time to bring the services up to the applicable code
it would be acceptable. Boardmember Jairam asked if an alternative to
bringing the service up would be to reduce the fuse size. Mr. Lee said
that safety is all based on the capacity of the service cord to the unit
itself. If the capacity of the cord is 30 amps, a 50 amp service would
need 30 amp over -current protection regardless of the service itself. The
50 amp or 30 amp service doesn't have any bearing on the safety of the
mobile home necessarily.
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Boardmember Johnson said that one thing he would like to address is Board -
member Bakers suggestion that the service be upgraded over a twelve month
period. Boardmember Johnson felt that the only way we could require that
is to have all services in the City of Fort Collins and all mobile home
parks be upgraded within that period of time. Unless everyone is willing
to do that, Mr. Johnson doesn't feel that one mobile home park owner can be
required to update his services unless it is required through the City.
In the new ordinance, Mr. Lee said, that it does specify for all mobile
homes to have a 50 amp service. Again, that was the minimum standard for
new units when it was written and Mr. Lee assumed that most parks had at
least a 50 amp service. That has not been the case however in older parks.
Mr. Lee felt that a fair compromise would be when units are moved in that
require a larger service, they would have to be upgraded at that time. He
felt that anything less than a 30 amp service is unacceptable. Boardmember
Allison asked if there are any inspections being done now when people move
mobile homes in and how do we know that there are 50 amp services in mobile
home parks without physically going out and inspecting? Mr. Lee stated the
ordinance officially takes affect Saturday and after that there will be
inspections on any mobile homes moved or re -installed.
Boardmember McCaffrey asked if Boardmember Sinnett accepted certain modifi-
cations to his motion. Mr. Sinnett said he had no problems with suggested
changes. After discussion Boardmember Sinnett withdrew his motion. Mr.
Lee reiterated to the Board that in making a decision they would have to
make findings of fact and make those findings clear.
Boardmember McCaffrey asked Mr. Lee if the finding of fact couldn't be that
the way it is being enforced in the City right now and after the new mobile
home ordinance goes into effect has to do with the fact that when things
are new and upgraded they will be required to change. Boardmember Baker
said that is not what the statute says. Baker stated this case was brought
here as a Building Review Board appeal and the Board is going to find fact
that there are health and life safety hazards that do not comply with the
code. Baker further went on to ask how the Board could say that Carlson
doesn't have to comply with the code when the statute says he does. Board -
member Trampe said the ordinance basically says that although it is a pre-
existing condition they have to be upgraded. Boardmember McCaffrey pointed
out the purpose of the Building Review Board is to give variances to the
code, making concessions because of hardships or extenuating circumstances.
Boardmember Trampe asked if putting a time period on the variance would be
within their realm.
Boardmember Baker made a motion that the finding of fact is that there are
in fact health and life safety and imminent fire hazards associated with
this correction notice and that there are in fact code violations of exist-
ing law and the law that is to be implemented shortly. As a compromise to
this order, he proposed that the City and Mr. Carlson get together and
decide which of these issues are strictly health and life safety issues and
those issues have to be dealt with immediately. In consideration of the
financial hardship and also the fact that Mr. Carlson is not really quite
sure of the future of the affected property in the immediate future, that
Carlson be given twelve (12) months to correct the remainder of the prob-
lems.
City Attorney Paul Eckman expressed concerns that the motion left it to the
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City and Mr. Carlson to decide which are life safety issues and which are
not. They may never reach an agreement on the issue which will render the
Board's decision moot. It would be much more helpful if the Board could
decide those today so that point will not have to be negotiated or argued
about.
Boardmember Baker amended the motion to say the safety issues noting that
the City will decide which of these issues are health and life safety and
fire code related and that Mr. Carlson will comply with those immediately.
Boardmember Allison asked if the Board could stipulate to exclude the ser-
vice sizes. Boardmember Baker felt that he had made a motion and it should
be seconded or dropped because he didn't want to change it. At this point
Mr. Carlson said that he would like to have his electrician consulted
because he is the one that is going to be performing the work.
Felix Lee said that the reason the order was issued was not simply because
of service size but because it was determined that there were hazards there
because of equipment not properly secured to poles and to the other items
specified and those need to be corrected. Lee stated the Board has the
right to say within a reasonable time period as to when the corrections are
made. He agreed that the service size issue might be a technical code
issue not necessarily health safety. Boardmember Baker said that the order
has the service sizes in it. He felt Mr. Lee should take that out of the
order and put it in a separate order that will be enforced in twelve months
and that the health, life safety and fire issues be addresses immediately.
The motion died for lack of a second. City Attorney Paul Eckman asked the
Board if the intention was to deny Mr. Carlson's appeal except with respect
to service size and, that with respect to service size, give him twelve
months to come into compliance. Boardmember Conard made a motion that the
Board found the conditions are as stated in the letter from the Building
department and that they are a hazard to health and fire safety and that
the Board deny the appeal on all items except those relating to service
entrance size only, and allow twelve months to correct that problem. The
motion was seconded by Boardmember Baker. Yeas: McCaffrey, Trampe, Sin -
nett, Johnson, Jairam, Baker, Allison, Conard. Nays: None.
OTHER BUSINESS
Thanksgiving falls on the last Thursday of the month and the meeting date
was changed to Tuesday, November 24th in the Council Chambers at 9:15 a.m..
The meeting was adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
Larry Trampe, Chairman
Felix L aff Support
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October 26, 1987
Building Board of Appeals
300 Laporte Avenue
Fort Collins, Colorado 80521
Dear Commissioners:
This letter is sent by the undersigned directors on behalf
of the City Park Neighborhood Association (CPNA). It is our
understanding that Mr. Herb Carlson, owner of the Sunset Trailer
Park, 114 South Bryan, is requesting a hearing before your board
to protest the improvements required under a Correction Notice
dated July 28, 1987 sent by the administrator of the Division of
inspections and Permits.
The Correction Notice was sent to Mr. Carlson because, "no
recent work has been performed [on the premises] as evidenced
by the number of serious problems still needing attention." The
notice went on to detail these problems by individual unit.
In Mr. Carlson's written response to the Correction Notice
he stated the reasons for his appeal.. Among his reasons were
1) '...Corrections do not warrant the costly repairs necessary to
comply with 1987 Electrical Code"; and 2) "The cash flow of the
rental market in Fort Collins is very poor."
Members of the Board of Directors of CPNA and concerned
neighbors have been working to have problems at 1.14 South Bryan
corrected for over three years. The City Council's recent
adoption of a mobile home park ordinance was due in part to
recognition that, without regulation, mobile home parks such as
the Sunset Trailer Park are permitted to exist in substandard and
unsafe conditions, causing a threat to the safety and well being
of its inhabitants and nearby residents.
The CPNA Board is of the opinion that a "poor rental market"
and "costliness of repairs" are insufficient grounds for waiver
of requirements which have been .implemented by the community to
protect all of its citizens. Whether or not the property owner
has the capital necessary to provide the required upgrades is not
the issue. Similarly, the ability of the owner to rent his
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October 26, 1987
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rental units is not the issue. These factors are controlled by
business decisions which must be resolved in the course of
operation of the business; not at the expense of the health and
safety of innocent third parties.
The CPNA Board urges the Building Board of Appeals to
support the City staff position as originally set forth in the
Correction Notice dated July 28, 1987. We thank you for your
consideration of this request.
By:
PR/csh
Appeals
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CITY PAJW,-ULIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION
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m Miller, Vice President
Ed Spa ing, Dire �--
Peggy Rolfes, Director