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Water Board
August 16, 198b
Members Present
Norm Evans, Chairman, Henry Caulfield, Vice-chairman, Bill Elliott, Mort
Bittinger, Jim O'Brien, Tom Moore, Neil Grigg, Dave Stewart, Tom Sanders, Stan
Ponce (alt.)
Staff Present
Dennis Bode, Curt Miller, Mark Taylor, Paul Eckman, Assistant City Attorney
Guests
Consultants from Resource Consultants: Dave Frick, Sam Bryson
Bill Fischer, Natural Resources Board
Leonard Rice, Ross Bethel, Consulting Water Engineers, Inc.
Dick Westmore, Harza Engineering
Tyler Martineau, Colorado Water Resources & Power Development Authority
Media
Mark Radtke, KCOL
Members Absent
Mary Lou Smith, John Scott (alt.)
Chairman Norm Evans opened the meeting. The following items were discussed:
New Board Member
Chairman Evans introduced newly appointed member Stan Ponce.
Minutes
The minutes of July 19, 1985 were approved.
Drought Study
Dennis Bode introduced Dave Frick and Sam Bryson of Resource Consultants who
produced much of the work on the drought study. The report has been completed
and was distributed to the Board. It was the desire of the Water Board to
discuss the study before the joint work session with the City Council on
August 27. Mr. Frick and Mr. Bryson gave a fairly detailed presentation a few
months ago and thus, will give a brief summary this time in order to allow
adequate time for questions and discussion.
Mr. Frick explained that the 3 major goals of the study were to: 1) determine
the drought characteristics of the Poudre River, 2) evaluate the drought
effects on the City's water supply both for now and in the future, 3)
identify and analyze various water supply strategies that could be adopted by
the City for dealing with extreme droughts.
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As part of the first task, the consultants used existing data that were
available for stream flows on the Poudre basin and surrounding basins. They
analyzed the statistical characteristics of the historic droughts on the
rivers and developed a stochastic model so that they could make extended
drought analyses for more infrequent drought events. Next, they analyzed the
synthetic data for the drought characteristics and selected the periods from
the synthetic data that they would use for drought analysis for the City's
water supplies. For those drouant periods they also made estimates of
imported waters from adjacent basins that would occur during those drought
periods. They verified their analysis with some tree ring data to make certain
their stochastic model seemed realistic based on long term historic data.
Finally, they generated monthly stream flows that could be used for analysis
of the City's water supplies during the drought periods.
Mr. Frick mentioned that during their last presentation, there was a concern
about how a drought in the Poudre Basin might be affected by the other basins.
It was shown that when the Poudre Basin has droughts the Colorado River Basin
has droughts too. This is consistent with the other basins that they looked
at too.
The consultants defined droughts in three ways: 1) a run -intensity drought
which is very intense but of short duration, 2) a run -deficit drought in which
the duration is long but the average deficit is quite small, 3) a run -sum in
which there is a very large deficit of flow over not as long a period of time
or not as intense. Basically, they looked at drought characteristics of the
historical data for those three types of droughts, and came up with their
design droughts based on the combination of three that stressed the water
supply system the most.
They selected four design droughts that they used to analyze the water supply
for the City's system. The droughts selected tended to meet the general
conditions that were defined as far as deficit and duration.
By looking at tree ring data, they verified that there were not any long term
trends or climatic changes that would affect the stream flow and thus,
concluded that their stochastic model was valid.
They looked at the general basin water supply during the draughts to determine
if there were any major problems with carry-over storage or problems in the
basin that might affect some of the City's water rights. Generally, when
deficits were expected, there were deficits in storage. They concluded that
the estimates of the water rights yields calculated by Dennis Bode and Andy
Pineda on the MUDSIM model appeared to be realistic.
Next, they looked at projections of future demands as compared with water
supplies and how drought sensitive the various water supplies are. The
current City policy is to maintain an adequate supply to meet a 1-in-20 year
drought ten years into the future. Assuming that that policy was maintained,
it appears that in the year 2035 scenarios, a IUU year drought could not be
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met for either of two supply options: 1) where we obtain additional storage
water, or 2) by obtaining more CST and North Poudre shares. Based on that
analysis, the basic strategy that emerged was: to maintain a water supply
that is adequate for most droughts and then when there are droughts in excess
of the design drought, emergency measures would be used. What Resource
Consultants is recommending is to design for a 1-in-100 year drought or
essentially, a system reliability of 99%. They did not, however, do an
economic analysis to say that is the most cost effective drought to design
for.
In the short term what they are saying is, currently, the City has water
supplies to meet a 1-in-100 year drought and it should remain that way for
many years into the future. It appears there is no immediate need to develop
an emergency plan, or a need to change water acquisition policies at this
point.
In the long term, the consultants are recommending that the City analyze the
system periodically utilizing the data that is in the report by revising the
demands and eyisting supplies in the future to make certain that, at a point
in time the City will fall in the 1-in-100 year criteria. At that point, if
the City decides to use the 1-in-100 design drought for supply criteria, then
revisions should be looked at in the water acquisition policy, and the
development of emergency plans.
There are two ways of doing emergency planning: 1) Restrict the demands during
a draught; this is most crucial during the later years of an extreme drought.
2) From the supply end, there are a couple of options for additional supplies
during emergency conditions: storing excess water in junior reservoirs and
looking at the possibility of renting agricultural water during extreme
conditions.
The recommendations Resulting from the Study are:
1. Fort Collins should determine its optimum drought design criteria based on
an economic evaluation and other factors. A preliminary conclusion is that
the water supply should be maintained to meet the demands for a 1-in-100
drought.
2. The present policy requiring the dedication of water rights with land
development should be continued, and, in the short term, additonal
acquisitions or expansions are not needed.
3. An emergency contingency plan should be developed within the next few
years for dealing with extreme droughts or other emergencies. Emergency
measures that could be implemented include restrictions on water use and
agreements with agricultural users to rent senior water rights or the use of
junior reservoir storage rights by filling with excess City water during the
initial years of long-term drought periods.
Mr. Frick asked for questions and discussion.
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Norm Evans asked if their analysis indicated that we don't need more storage.
Mr. Frick explained that the storage that was used as carry-over was used in
the driest years. There was not a lot of need of additional storage for any
given years on a month to month basis that wasn't already in the system, Mr.
Bode confirmed that the model did distribute demand and supply monthly, and
although there could be some refinements in a certain month, for the most
part, the carry-over storage we depend on is Horsetooth or Joe Wright and can
be used later in the year.
Bill Elliott asked if higher densities in the future will make a difference.
Dennis Bode pointed out that with the change that was made in the raw water
requirements recently, the density was included in that equation so as we have
more dense development, the amount of water we require from that development
will also increase. He added that this analysis didn't address that question
specifically. Basically, they selected a certain demand and forced the supply
to meet that. It was more of a determination of the difference in droughts
then an actual projection of supply and demand.
Neil Grigg expresssed concern about figure 4 in the Summary in which it
appears we would be running out of water in 1992. Mr. Frick responded that
into this there are two sources of reserve; Joe Wright storage was not
included and it was assumed, which is not totally correct, that the supply
remains fixed although the demand is increased. That was the most
conservative assumption to test the supply. There is water however, that has
been acquired by the City for lands which are not currently developed; so,
there could be some development that would occur without increasing the water
supply.
Mr. Grigg questioned if it would be possible to display that reserve
graphically so a person could see it. It might be good if there were some
kind of a drought index number where, for example, we could say we have
reserves that are 1.2 X what we need or 1.3 or 1.6, whatever; therefore, we
are okay. Dennis Bode explained that with figure 4 you can do that. The
thing you need to know is what kind of design criteria you choose. If you
choose 1-in-100, you use this graph or the tables that preceed it to get the
ratio that you are talking about. Mr. Grigg understood it after the
explanation but suggested that it may be possible to make this graph clearer.
Jim O'Brien had a series of questions. What was the cost of the study? About
$bO,000 for a one year period. What is the potential for modification of this
in the future as we develop our new supply and demand constraints? One of the
goals of the study was to develop data that could be fed into the MOOSIM
Program in order that different demand options and different supplies could be
looked at any time in the future. As far as emergency measures go, does the
City have them for example, in the event of toxification? Dennis Bode
acknowledged that there isn't one document that spells out all the
possibilities. Bill Elliott pointed out that there is a set of ordinances
that relate to priorities of usage in drought situations. Henry Caulfield
added that the Water Board has certain powers in emergency situations. The
thing we don't have is the experience of renting water from others during a
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drought. As far as toxification of the water, the Board has not considered
this. Jim O'Brien asked about the worst case scenario that is shown in the
report -- based on the definition of drought, he thought we were actually
facing a worse situation if we considered several years of drought, an
intervening year of above average, and then several more years of drought.
However, it appears historically that we went from 1930 up through 1956 when
there were only 2 or 3 years in the early 19SO's where that wasn't the case.
Did anybody look at a cumulative running deficit? Sam Bryson looked at what
would 'happen if we used a different definition of drought such as a running
average type where we do have a cumulative deficit. It was concluded that
that situation is not as severe a constraint as some of the droughts they
selected based on the City's mix of water supply. Mr. Bryson confirmed that
he had looked at that and he concluded that the system designed for the
1-in-100 drought would in fact be about 99% reliable; in other words, in the
long term of 500 years, it would only fall short S years out of the SOO. Mr.
Frick also related that they selected the 30 year period that surrounded a
drought in the stocastic series; the model was run through the entire 30
years for a warm-up period and a period following the drought.
After being asked how the 1-in-20 drought characteristics were determined,
Mr. Frick explained that they divided the record into 20-year segments and
averaged the parameters from the worst drought in each segment. One drought
18 years long, was a drought which could also have been the worst drought in a
500 year length when they looked at that too.
Tom Sanders commented about the use of the 1-in-100 recommendation for supply
which could become quite costly in the future. He contends that 1-in-20 is
sufficient for most other water supplies and the most reasonable. If we do
expand the study we need to have an economic look at the decision making on
this. Mr. Frick responded that the one thing they looked at related to that
was if you did choose a 1-in-20 as your drought frequency, the difference
between that and a 1-in-100 in the future is going to be greater than it is
now as far as supplies go. As you obtain more supplies you are going to
obtain more junior type rights. Your incremental difference spreads. bO
years down the road, if you used a 1-in-20 as a design criteria, you may have
a real problem during extreme droughts.
Dave Stewart commented that if the model is updated continuously, you will see
that trend immediately. At that time you would make a policy decision to
change it. Dennis Bode concurs that this sets the framework for doing some
refined studies where you look at actual projected supplies and projected
demands.
Henry Caulfield talked about a Hazards Conference in Boulder at which he was
one of the speakers. Drought was one of the topics of discussion. It was
asked at the conference if all drought years were defined as those years
where water availability was less than average. According to the study, any
year that fell below the mean was indicated as a drought year. The
questioner responded that the trouble with this is that the layman may not
believe that half of the years are "drought years." Mr. Caulfield said Ken
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Wright:, one of the leading engineers in the state, came to the rescue and, in
essense, said that using the mean was acceptable. Mr. Frick said they had
considered different ways of defining a drought, but had also concluded that
the results would be the same. Mr. Wright also said that the 1-in-100 seems
like a reasonable level of planning. He also pointed out that the surrounding
water entities should contemplate doing drought studies. If a drought;
occurs and they are not prepared, it is possible that the City will be placed
in a position of having to share its supplies.
Dr. Evans agreed with the latter suggestion and added that we have the
route to pursue it considering our frequent meetings with these groups for
regionalization discussions.
Neil Grigg commented that what we need now is more complex than an economic
study to evaluate what frequency of drought we should be prepared for. We
need a policy analysis of different policies complete with simulations of what
we would do if certain things happened.
Tom Sanders commented about the definition of drought. He thinks a reasonable
definition it to say that a drought occurs when the expected uses of the water
are not met by available supplies. The use of the mean is good, he said since
it is generally accepted. He went on to say that the report could not be
criticized for the definition of drought. In another point, he emphasized
that this is a perfect opportunity for regionalization; we need to work with
the other area water entities for drought planning.
Henry Caulfield stressed that one of the reasons for this meeting today was to
prepare for the work session with the City Council on August 27. Perhaps the
Board needs to first accept the report as fulfilling the contract.
Accordingly, Mr. Caulfield asked staff if the consultant has met all the terms
of the contract. Mr. Bode said they have met the requirements. Mr. Caulfield
moved that the Board advise the Council that they should accept the report as
meeting the contract requirements. Dave Stewart seconded the motion, and it
passed unanimously.
Chairman Evans asked the consultant if this is indeed the final report or
could they incorporate some of the Board's suggestions. Mr. Caulfield pointed
out that the Board was not obligated to accept the report on technical and
expository grounds. Mr. Frick responded that this was considered the final
report. He added that the City staff had reviewed the preliminary report and
the consultant also incorporated the Board's comments from the previous
presentation to the Water Board.
Henry Caulfield stated that it is necessary now to decide what the Board wants
to recommend to go forward from here. Part of the report's recommendations
that Mr. Caulfield would like to focus on are the emergency responses, which
are of 2 types: 1) restrictions on water use and 2) augmentation of the
supply. He wishes to concentrate on the latter; namely, contracts to rent the
early river rights of others on the river during drought. There could be
several variations for implementation. He proposed that the Board recommend
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to the City Council that we hire a consultant to study legal implications,
etc. of a reconnaissance level exploration of renting agricultural water. It
seems to Mr. Caulfield that we know a great deal about cost of reservoirs etc.
and generally we know about restrictions. The thing we don't have knowledge
about is having prior contracts with people for times of drought; people with
good water riyhts. It is also important to have this information because the
City is going to have to respona to the Northern Colorado Water Conservancy
District's study of a storage facility on the Poudre River. It is important
that we know about this alternative for meeting droughts.
Tom Sanders advocates developing a two -tiered system of acquiring water: 1)
to meet our average demands and 2) to buy the water and lease it back except
in times of severe drought. The value of this system is that we could
probably buy the water a little cheaper. Also we don't have to go to court
and pull water away from agriculture.
Mr. Caulfield contends that this is what the reconnaissance study would do --
look into the costs and acceptability of all of the different ways of
acquiring water. Neil Grigg concurs with Mr. Caulfield's idea of a study in
terms of the need to look into this. He went'on to suggest the idea that the
City might assume the role of a wholesale water broker in this area of
Northern Colorado. Norm Evans commented that Denver was having its problems
in wholesaling water in the Denver metro area. Dennis Bode said that some of
the regionalization concepts the City is working on with the area water
entities stress working together; not necessarily one agency taking the lead,
but forming an agency that would be responsible for everybody's interests.
Neil Grigg would like to know more about what is happening at these
regionalization meetings. Mr. Bode said that the group is proceeding
cautiously but they are working on a preliminary report to share with the
different Boards.
The Chairman asked the Board to consider what they want to say to the
Council regarding the report.
Henry Caulfield responded that we may not want to say "we buy all the
recommendations." Instead we merely discuss the recommendations; what
they mean, what their implications are, etc. He suggests that a formal
proposal not be presented to the Council at this time. Bill Elliott added
that he thinks we should formulate things that can be done in terms of an
emergency plan.
Tom Sanders said we are formulating long term built-in safety in the system
too. The critical aspect here is "how safe do we want to be?" Once we
determine that, then we talk about the alternatives.
Tom Moore, Bill Elliott and Norm Evans think that the Water Board should not
recommend another study to the Council at this time.
Neil Grigg feels comfortable with what Mr. Caulfield proposes. He would feel
more comfortable if the Board reported that we consider a study like this
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necessary and the Board is going to go back and write up a scope of work for
it.
Jim O'Brien thinks it would be prudent to emphasize that we are doing the
water system study and that the rate and drought studies will be incorporated
into it. We should be able to at least address some of the emergency
measures.
Dennis Bode explained that he sees these reports as the foundation for ongoing
planning efforts. The report that staff is working on now is oriented
towards the demand side, and how things can be done to manage it. It also
considers the cost of supply, and in that way it dovetails with the
information in the Drought Study report.
Tom Sanders emphasized that the report is excellent and that it will be a
tremendous tool for planning.
Henry Caulfield summarized that it appears to be the desire of the Board to
"low key" any recommendation for further studies; instead, we plan to
emphasize our continuing planning efforts.
Instream Flows
The Water Board and the newly formed Natural Resources Board were asked to
discuss and make a recommendation on the instream flows proposed by the
Colorado Water Conservation Board. Bill Fischer a member of the Natural
Resources Board is also a member of a committee that was formed to study this
proposal. He attended the Water Board meeting as a representative of that
committee of the Natural Resources Board.
Dennis Bode informed the Board that the Colorado Water Conservation Board
is proposing some minimum stream flows that affect certain parts of the
Poudre River. He has a cover memo and a table that list those segments
which would be affected. There was a request from the Council for the Water
Board and the Natural Resources Board to make a recommendation to the
Council. On a map, Mr. Bode pointed out those segments which are being
proposed and will be considered at the September meeting of the Conservation
Board. These would be appropriated rights and would be junior to existing
rights. They are supposed to allow for any existing exchanges on the River.
Any problems associated with these rights probably would be associated with
future projects.
Tom Moore asked about the legal aspects. Assistant City Attorney Paul Eckman
responded that there isn't a lot we can do to protect ourselves against this
because these are going to be junior. The Water Users Association has tried
to discourage the CWCB from using these but the Board is adamant in their
determination. Bill Fischer concurred by saying that Ward Fischer determined
it would serve the City and water users best at this point to wait. There may
be alternatives that we can't see right now which may help or hinder the
minimum stream flows. From this perspective, it is probably best to wait
until the Poudre Basin study is completed.
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At this point, Mort Bittinger incroauced the consultants who will be doing
the basin study. Mr. Bittinger, who is also participating in the study,
invited them to attend the Water Board meeting when he learnec that the
Drought Study would be discussed.
Henry Caulfield suggested that we need to consider the implications ofthe
impending Wild & Scenic River Act, with regard to questions of flows on the
river.
Norm Evans said that we have tools to examine questions like the impact of
minimum flow requirements, at least in a preliminary way, through the MODSIM
model. It is possible to make some assessments.
Dennis Bode related that, as he understands it, the Wild & Scenic would not
have specific flow numbers in it. You can't change things in the area of the
designation that might affect the flows, however.
Tom Moore proposed that the City send a letter saying wait until the Poudre
Basin study is completed. He then moved that the Board recommend to the
Council that the Council ask the Colorado Water Conservation Board "to put on
hold" minimum stream action until the Poudre Basin study is finished. Dave
Stewart seconded the motion.
Bill Elliott thinks 1) that the Board has been given no information about why
this is necessary now, 2) are these proposed flows over, above or below
requirements relating to Fish & Wildlife, 3) does it cut off any kind of
future need that we have on the river?
Norm Evans, Henry Caulfield, Bill Elliott, Tom Moore, Dave Stewart and Stan
Ponce voted in favor of the motion. Those opposed were Jim O'Brien, Neil
Grigg and Tom Sanders. The motion carried.
Pressure Problems at Dean Acres
Curt Miller pointed out on the map where the pressure problems exist. The
real problem surfaces in the definition of reasonable guidelines. We have a
number of standards from AWWA etc, but we have not had a policy from the
Water Board with guidance on what water service standards should be. The
standards have gone up through the years.
A party in Dean Acres contends that he has a low pressure problem. He has
approximately 3b psi when it is good and when it is bad it falls to about 20.
Under certain standards, that is suitable. In general the City tries to
maintain 35 psi for most of our customers. In June of next year this customer
from Dean Acres will see a pressure increase but his question was, "I feel I
am getting less than your standard service; how about a discount?" Our
response was that this is a policy issue, and we would bring it before the
Water Board.
Norm Evans said that we sell water outside the City at a price of 150% of the
inside City rate, but we do not guarantee any particular pressure. It doesn't
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seem reasonable to grant a discount for lower pressure. We need to consider
the fee policy for out of the City boundaries, however.
Neil Grigg moved that we decline any rate discounts zo individual customers
but consider future improvements to the system to improve service, etc. After
a second from Mort Bittinger, the Board passed the motion unanimously.
,iim O'Brien thinks we should have a review of the 1 1/2 times rate structure
for water and sewer that we charge customers ouside the City.
Tom Sanders wants the chair to introduce guests at the beginning of the
meeting. The chairman agreed to do this.
Since there was no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 5:30 p.m.
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