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CITY OF FORT COLLINS
NATURAL RESOURCES ADVISORY BOARD
REGULAR MEETING
281 CONFERENCE ROOM - 281 N. COLLEGE AVE.
APRIL 1,1998
For Reference: Phil Murphy, NRAB Chair - 491-6303
Bill Bertschy, Council Liaison - 484-0181
Susie Gordon, Staff Liaison - 221-6265
Board Members Present
Phil Murphy, Bill Miller, Craig McGee, Ed Secor, Randy Fischer, Kelly Ohlson, Ed Secor and Phil
Friedman
Board Members Absent
Jan Behunek
Staff Present
Natural Resource Dept: Sally Maggart, Susie Gordon and Tom Shoemaker
The meeting was called to order at 7:02 p.m.
Guests
Michelle Owen, CSU student, Nate Donovan, interested citizen, and Sally Craig, Planning & Zoning
Board member.
Review and Approval of Minutes
The minutes of the March 4, 1998 Regular Meeting were approved as written.
Agenda Review
The Solid Waste Districting Report and the Resolution on Expenditures for Natural Areas
Acquisitions agenda items times were switched.
Announcements
Kelly Ohlson announced that there will be a Building Community Choices Open House Thursday
night at the Lincoln Center from 5:00-8:00 p.m.
Phil Friedman distributed Mike Smith's response to the board's memo regarding involvement in
water and water utility projects . Randy Fischer said that he was pleasantly surprised at the tone of
the letter, but that the Board should continue its vigilance.
Susie Gordon announced that the CoPIRG Earth Day Fair will be on Sunday, April 19, and there will
be an Earth Fest activity at the Environmental Learning Center on April 17.
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Committee Reports
Trails
• There was a field trip with the Parks and Recreation Board at the Cathy Fromme Prairie. The
NRAB suggested lowering the trail along the ridge for bikes and rollerbladers, with a side
trail for walking. The P&R Board wanted the most visual experience along the ridge.
• Natural Resources Department staff need to be put on equal footing with Park staff regarding
trail placement because most of the future trails will be on lands purchased with natural areas
funding.
• There is a problem with neighbors dictating where trails come into natural areas.
Growth Management
No meeting.
Natural Areas
• Site visits were made to Bignall, Nix, Kingfisher Point, Martinez, Springer and Udall natural
areas to review issues and concerns related to areas along the Poudre River.
• There is some concern at Springer regarding the relocation of currants after the flood.
• There are concerns at Prospect Ponds concerning the safety of ice fishing and whether ice
hockey is an appropriate activity in a natural area.
• There are concerns about the Poudre River Trail running through Arapahoe Bend.
• The private lake on the north end of Prospect Ponds is being contaminated by feed lot waste.
This might be a violation of the Clean Water Act.
• The plan for frisbee golf at Lee Martinez will set a bad precedent. It is recommended that
boardmembers attend the Lincoln Center Open House.
Solid Waste
The report is part of the agenda.
Education
• The committee met last week and continued the discussion to make sure the education
component of the prairie dog policy is accomplished. There will be a mailing to target
households near prairie dog areas and users of natural areas.
• The committee discussed developing a brochure similar to the DOW's "Living with (mil)
in (countrvl."
Discussion Strategies for Keeping Meetings to Reasonable Length of Time Phil Murnhv
ISSUE
• The meetings are excessive in length.
• There is a fear of "burnout".
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COMMENTS
• Meetings should conclude by 10:00 p.m.
• Members need to adjust their comments to fit within the allotted time.
• Two short meetings a month would be better than one long meeting.
• Political issues sometimes take longer than the time allotted on the agenda.
• Start the meetings at 6:00 or 6:30 p.m.
• Provide meals.
• Limit staff presentations.
• Spend time talking about the big picture issues of the natural area program. Have summaries
of natural area acquisitions ahead of time.
• Retain flexibility for timely issues.
• Present a written summation of committee meetings. Develop a template for committee
reports highlighting items of concern.
• Have the second meeting per month a work session.
• Would like the second meeting of the month to be a regularly published public meeting
DECISION
• Start meetings at 6:00 p.m. and end at 9:00 p.m.
• Dinner will be provided once a month.
• Have a regular extra meeting, if necessary, on the third Wednesday of the month.
Board Membership: Re -enlistment or Recruitment for Two Po itionc Such Gordon
Susie Gordon noted that the terms of two boardmembers, Ed Secor and Craig McGee, are ending.
There was some discussion regarding the reapplication process. Craig McGee announced that he
would not be seeking another term.
Solid Waste Districting Report Susie Gordon
ISSUE
• The Solid Waste Committee reviewed the first draft and met with the consultants.
• April 17 is the deadline to get comments to the consultants. There will be a Council
worksession on May 12.
• There were 814 responses to the survey; 66 percent of the respondents are willing to try
districting.
• Council will determine if further public input is needed.
• It is not a finding that people will be put out of business.
• The cost/benefit analysis shows a savings per household of over $2.00 may occur.
• Trash haulers did not discount the possibility of teaming and subcontracting relationships.
• State law requires one year publication before districting could be implemented.
• The start up costs are lower than expected.
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DISCUSSION
• Include the amount of annual savings in the Executive Summary because that is the section
Council will read.
• It is important that the NRAB has representation at the May 12 worksession.
• More information substantiating the increase in street life is needed.
• It was suggested setting district sizes the same as the smallest trash hauler servicing today.
• The size of the districts is a concern of the Board.
• A concern is that trash haulers not presently operating in Fort Collins could bid and get a
district.
• What is the tone of the meetings with trash haulers? It ranges from resigned (recognizing
the public benefits) to hostile.
• What is the legality of a vote? The City Attorney is still considering whether it might have
to go to a public election, with the next opportunity being in the spring of 1999. The City
Charter states that any time a new utility is started it has to go to a vote. The City Attorney
needs to clarify if districting constitutes a utility.
DECISION
• Boardmember comments should be given to Susie Gordon.
• A detailed memo will be sent to Council before the worksession on May 12.
Rpcnhrtion on Expenditures for Natural Areas Acquisitions --Building Community Choices
Ordinance 29-98, Tom Shoemaker
ISSUE
• Staff is recommending adoption of the resolution for four reasons:
1. It reaffirms Council's commitment to funding the natural areas program.
2. It directs staff to augment the natural areas land acquisition program, with the possible
use of eminent domain.
3. Council will commit to using whatever revenue sources the City has to augment the
natural areas funding if there is a cash flow problem.
4. Council does not intend to provide additional enhancements to parks projects except as
outlined in the ballot language.
DISCUSSION
• Boardmembers are concerned about the inflation factor for streets maintenance, natural areas
and parks projects. Boardmembers are asking for a reduction in the parks allocation, and a
speed up in natural areas land purchases. Council is supportive, but the resolution is weak.
• One outcome of buying land fast would be inflated land costs.
• To date over 5,200 acres have been purchased and there are three contracts, with ten more
in negotiation, for 2,000 more acres. Steady progress is being made.
• More staff in the Natural Resources Department, Right -of —Way Department and City
Attorney's office would be needed to go faster with acquisitions.
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No consistent rate of inflation is used.
The City needs to be more honest with the costs.
There is concern about the overage.
DECISION
• The Board will send a memo to Council with the following points:
1. Eminent domain does not belong in the resolution.
2. Section 4 is not strong enough. Alternative text is suggested.
3. There is concern that the overage will be chipped away. The $27 million plus overage
is a major part of the program.
• A subcommittee meeting will be held Monday at noon.
Review Action L.Qg
Add:
• Memo on Martinez Park
• Meeting with Rick Richter regarding transportation
• Prospect Ponds contamination concerns
• Building Community Choices revenue
• Memo on districting
• Template for committee reports
Future Agenda Items
• Special Meeting: April 15
• Poudre River Plans: May
• Natural Areas: May, June and July
• Sheldon Lake Project
• Population Rate Modeling in City Plan Monitoring: May
• Select representative to sort through City Plan issues
Adjournment
The meeting adjourned at 10:20 p.m.